Wrangler Fuel Requirements -Simpson

Submitted: Tuesday, Apr 30, 2002 at 00:00
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Would like some advice as to the amount of fuel required to take a TJ Wrangler across the Simpson. Intended route is the French Line
(west-East). There will be 2 adults with the back seat removed, making room for jerry cans etc.
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Reply By: Trev - Tuesday, Apr 30, 2002 at 00:00

Tuesday, Apr 30, 2002 at 00:00
John We did it last year in a Ford Exploer Birdsville to Oodnadatta with two trips up to Goonamillera Crossing from Eyre Creek Two adults and normal junk. Used 128 litres. Trev
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Follow Up By: John - Wednesday, May 01, 2002 at 00:00

Wednesday, May 01, 2002 at 00:00
Thanks for that info Trev..That sounds slightly more reasonable than some of the figures I've been reading. Would still like to know from anyone that has done the trip in a Wrangler TJ 4 litre petrol, and how the vehicle handled the trip. Thanks
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Reply By: Mike - Wednesday, May 01, 2002 at 00:00

Wednesday, May 01, 2002 at 00:00
John - We did it in a Prado from Oodnadatta to Birdsville on the French Line with some side tracking - total 700km used 115litres in a V6Prado. Friends in a petrol Patrol used 180litres and others in a diesel disco I spoke to used about 90 litres - quite a variation all up!! Remember also that conditions in the desert can cause significant variations too. The literature that we read suggested 200litres for 6 cylinder petrol and that seems a good idea. I carried 1 jerry making my fuel total 180litres and had 65l left but that could have easily been needed if detours, more difficult conditions etc were encountered.
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Reply By: pen - Thursday, May 02, 2002 at 00:00

Thursday, May 02, 2002 at 00:00
John,
Went across Oct. 2000 in an '84, 3.9lt Rangie and used 145lt, my mate in a '96 TD Disco used 75lt. That was 578km from Mt Dare to Birdsville. Hope this helps a little.
Cheers, pen
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Reply By: Steve - Friday, May 03, 2002 at 00:00

Friday, May 03, 2002 at 00:00
John: Did Birdsville to New Crown ( station) a distance of 660 kms (via Mt Dare-- who had no fuel at the time, ) in Toyo Landcruiser and used 100 litres exactly.. hope this is of some help.. Suggest you call the Birdsville fuel stop for some further and up to date info !

steve
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Follow Up By: Fred - Sunday, May 12, 2002 at 00:00

Sunday, May 12, 2002 at 00:00
Steve - I think you'd better recalculate!!!!! That's 15.15l/100km or 18.73mpg and that's better or as good as highway cruising in a cruiser. Or maybe you have a diesel?? I know Mt Dare was out of diesel lasr July so maybe that's the case?
John be wary of extravagent claims as many do not accurately calculate consumption - you know what I mean? The people who look at their fuel guage and say "mmmm half full .... that'll be XXl/100!!" Be guided by published figures the books say 200l for a 6 cyl petrol - they've been written by experts with a fair bit of experience - and take into account likely unexpected fuel useage. Cheers
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Reply By: John - Friday, May 03, 2002 at 00:00

Friday, May 03, 2002 at 00:00
Thanks to everyone for the input. The information has been very useful. Happy to keep receiving any info in relation to this trip..re tyres, equipment taken (radio, gps etc). We're heading off from Melb july 10 so hopefully it will not be to busy and the track in pretty good condition
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Reply By: Mike - Friday, May 03, 2002 at 00:00

Friday, May 03, 2002 at 00:00
John, if you get a chance, have a talk to Adam, at the Pink Roadhouse, Oodnadatta, on the way through. He advises that tyre pressures on the rocky outback roads should be no higher than 30 psi, (I think he uses 20-25psi). irrespective of brand, to lessen the chance of punctures. Sidewall fractures are evidently not a worry. I have received this advice from a couple of other outback service people as well, so it's not crap. Enjoy your trip, Happy (desert) trails, Mike.

PS check weather and road conditions on this site prior to departure, as rain in the area changes everything.
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Follow Up By: Lee - Friday, May 03, 2002 at 00:00

Friday, May 03, 2002 at 00:00
For all the up to date info on Simpson Desert crossing (tyre type & pressure, equipment needs, fuel etc) call Adam at the Pink Roadhouse free call 1800 802 074 before you leave home, he has fantastic knowledge of the entire area and especially the Oodnadatta Track (which he named I believe).
Safe travelling
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Reply By: Steve - Sunday, May 12, 2002 at 00:00

Sunday, May 12, 2002 at 00:00
Fred: you are a genius !!! ... of course I have a diesel and having a log book of over 100k in detail, will send you a copy if you don't believe me ...as obviously you don't... Do you own a Land Rover by any chance ???
steve
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Follow Up By: Fred - Wednesday, May 15, 2002 at 00:00

Wednesday, May 15, 2002 at 00:00
Steve - I did say that perhaps you had a diesel and therefore that would explain the economy. You were giving advice to a person on fuel needed for a trip to a very remote area and you didn't say you were giving diesel figures. I simply wanted the person to understand that they were not realistic figures for a petrol Cruiser. In those conditions you can expect petrol to be nearly double diesel - In my experience - petrol Patrol 180l and diesel cruiser 90l. It seems by the tone of your reply that I upset you - I thought I made it clear that the only way you could get those figures would be with a diesel. I don't have a Landrover ... I have a Toyota but what in the world has that got to do with the discussion??
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Follow Up By: Fred - Wednesday, May 15, 2002 at 00:00

Wednesday, May 15, 2002 at 00:00
Steve ... what an arrogant and sarcastic way to speak .... "You are a genius" and "of course I have a diesel." How ever was anyone else to know that - you didn't tell us! - I wonder if you've ever been involved in a road rage incident - you sound like the types we read about all the time.
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Reply By: Sean - Thursday, May 16, 2002 at 00:00

Thursday, May 16, 2002 at 00:00
John : Natives getting a bit excited !! ...sorry but what is a TJ Wrangler ?
sean
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Follow Up By: John - Thursday, May 16, 2002 at 00:00

Thursday, May 16, 2002 at 00:00
It's one of the Jeep 4wd models
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Reply By: John - Friday, May 17, 2002 at 00:00

Friday, May 17, 2002 at 00:00
Once again I appreciate everyones input. The info I have received has been great. I've checked into the archives and there was some good info in there as well. Still haven't heard from anyone that has done a similiar trip in a TJ Wrangler. ( Sean that's a Jeep, swb)
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Follow Up By: Fred - Sunday, May 19, 2002 at 00:00

Sunday, May 19, 2002 at 00:00
John, Take 200l and be on the safe side. You might wait quite a while for a Wrangler reply. They're not commonly used for long off road trips. A mate of mine did Oodnadatta to Birdsville in a Cherokee and carried 6 jerries. He was envious of me only carrying (and not needing) one in a Prado!
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Reply By: Ruth - Wednesday, May 22, 2002 at 00:00

Wednesday, May 22, 2002 at 00:00
The Wrangler made it through the Desert safely and didn't run out of fuel and no, I don't know how much was used because it was really that exciting to discuss. I saw it two days ago. People get so worked up,d on't they?
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Follow Up By: Drew - Wednesday, May 22, 2002 at 00:00

Wednesday, May 22, 2002 at 00:00
Ruth,
Keep up your level headed, good natured, well meaning, locally based input. It is extremely valuable to all I am sure. The tyre presure issue you commented on seems like something that many drivers must not adhere to. I read a response doc here about a fortnight ago who said they had been travelling around the outback for years and only needed to deflate their tyres once ...for Big Red. I take it that is environmentally irresponsible but as a newcomer am only learning such things. I would really like to hear your views more on the sensitivities of desert drivers (or lack thereof) to the surroundings they are travelling through. I am sure that you could teach is all a bit more about bush etiquette. The hotheads have little to offer and little better to do with their time. Perhaps you could start a new subject on something that is concerning to the local population so a more positive string results...best wishes
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