One night stop overs

I have a probably rather silly question. We are planning a trip which will require some 1 night stop overs. To what length do you go to for a one night stop over? Obviously taking out the 12pin plug is a must- but do you unhitch? Level up? How do you level the caravan without unhitching the towball? My caravan fridge wont work unless the caravan is level so levelling up is a must.
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Reply By: Iza B - Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 12:00

Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 12:00
I go for the absolute minimum. I have found it pretty easy to find a flat enough spot, especially if you pull up early. I have airbags so levelling side to side is a simple as a touch of a button. I also often drop the suspension onto the bump stops to save messing with the stabilisers and to get a level front to back. For the less sophisticated suspension, a couple of plastic ramps and a couple of bits of scrap pine board should do the job.

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Follow Up By: new boy - Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 12:24

Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 12:24
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The off cuts from roof trusses 30ml thick (scrounged from building sites) 3 stacked on top of one another, cut at an angle to give a ramp effect also must all fit between the tandem wheels so watch the length then drill couple of holes for cheap gutter bolts to stop slippage of the top 2 gives you a 90 ml rise more that that move on.Swmbo has got it pat with the level and can pick whether 1,2,or 3 are required
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Follow Up By: LeeJ - Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 13:14

Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 13:14
Thanks- airbags sound like a great idea, it also sounds exy. Might have to stick to the ramps and chocks. :)
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Reply By: new boy - Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 12:10

Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 12:10
Hi Lee .
Always level the van 90% of the time you can pick a level site so not a hugh effort .
I always unhitch only because I cant open the back door of the patrol with the van on and thats where the beer is only move the car a foot then stabizliser down job done.
Awning out is a personal choice related to wind ,shade required and time you stop and put away before bed.
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Follow Up By: LeeJ - Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 13:16

Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 13:16
I also can not access my boot area (note this down for next time I buy a car), although I was hoping I could organise it so I didn't have to access it (not real sure if this would work or not as storage is at a premium already without illiminating the boot).
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Reply By: Member - Bruce C (NSW) - Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 12:13

Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 12:13
Hi Lee,

If it is just a one night stop on the way I do not unhitch anything.
If the area or the company is a little unsettling then I most definitely do not unhitch, in fact I may move on instead. Goes with out saying doesn't it.

Generally, for convenience sake and security I very rarely unhitch under those one night circumstances. Just in case. Unless the ground is very uneven I may not level the van either, just for one night.

You say "Taking out the 12 pin plug is a must"

Why is that, does your frig work through the 12 pin plug ??

I never run my frig on 12 volts in the van so it is not connected through the 12 pin plug and I therefore can leave the plug connected to the car.

While traveling we just leave the van fridge door closed (obviously) and put the gas back on when we stop for lunch. Turn it off again before moving off.

I must say that I have only ever been in a situation where I felt a bit insecure on a one night stop on one occasion. I high tailed it out of there before settling down for the night. This is the best policy for most travelers, go by your gut instincts.

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Follow Up By: LeeJ - Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 13:17

Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 13:17
I was advised the 12 pin plug will continue to draw power if left on, possibly draining the car battery and leaving us unable to move on. :(
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Follow Up By: Member - Bruce C (NSW) - Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 13:44

Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 13:44
Lee,
If your upright frig in the van is running off 12 volts and is connected through the 12 pin plug then yes, there probably is a chance of flattening your car battery and in a short time as well.

However we have had no problems with our fridges in 40 years of vanning so long as we avoid running the van frig on 12 volts.

They are highly inefficient users of 12 volts anyway so all we ever use on the van frig is gas and sometimes 240 volts. This seems to be the best and most suited to our needs.

Unless you leave the clearence lights on or your blinker on all night I doubt you will use any power unless there is a problem in the wiring circuit.
For instance a short circuit.

We have never had a flat battery from leaving the van connected overnight.

Who was it that suggested that you will flatten your battery, an auto electrician. ?

If so, did they give logical a reason why??.

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Follow Up By: Member - Bruce C (NSW) - Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 13:50

Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 13:50
Just an after thought Lee, I was talking about 3 way fridges here, not compressor fridges which are good efficient users of 12 volts.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil 'n Jill (WA) - Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 19:55

Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 19:55
Hi Lee / Bruce.

I had problems with my only battery being drained by the van frig until I had an isolating switch installed at the battery, so now the power to the van is off with they key removed from ignition.

Lunch breaks or quick shop tours between travelling can take longer than anticipated and my Pajero would be too low to kick over by 45 minutes - had to crank with the aid of a Jump Pack.

12 volt isn't efficient with a 3 way frig, but convenient (and safe) whilst travelling. 240v best where available, lpg when parked up without the benefit of 240v.

Levelling improves with practice & a board or 3 to play around with.

Happy travels - Regards, Phil
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Reply By: Member - Oldbaz. NSW. - Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 12:27

Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 12:27
Hi Lee, pick as level a spot as possible. Use a proper 60 cm builders level..those little
dot things arent accurate. Level across by using chocks/timber under the low van wheel.
You can use your jockey wheel to level longways or use blocks to raise /lower the car wheels as required.
If conditions permit excavate holes as required.
We never unhitch for an overnight bush camp & don't bother winding legs down or removing wiring plugs, chains or WDH.
Take a selection of wood pieces to fit under wheels..about 30mm thick or you can buy
plastic chock sets..we use both. cheers...oldbaz.
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Follow Up By: LeeJ - Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 13:20

Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 13:20
Thanks oldbaz. Looks like the ramps and chocks might be getting a bit of a work out (although, hopefully there is little need).
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 16:31

Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 16:31
Quote "Use a proper 60 cm builders level..those little
dot things arent accurate."

You should use the bullseye levels that came with the fridge, they are quite accurate. They also give you an indication of whether your fridge will work efficiently.

To use them, first of all find a spot in the van where they will give the same indication as when it is placed on the floor of the freezer compartment. I have found that my van was built well and the floor just inside the van is parallel with the fridge so that's where I place it. The fridge will work OK if the bubble is within the green section in the middle. It is surprising how far from dead level the fridge will work efficiently. The navigator requires the van to be mor level than the outer operating limits to ge a good nights sleep.
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Reply By: KevinE - Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 12:46

Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 12:46
It's not a silly question Lee, we do mostly 1 night stop overs & I always unhitch to remove the weight from the back of the tug.

I don't move the tug, or remove the chains, Anderson, or 7 pin plug, but I absolutely always get the weight off the car overnight. This helps slow down rear suspension sag on the car.

I do the same with my work trailer when at home too. It gets unhitched every night.

We only get things out that we need for dinner & breakfast (plus clean clothes & toiletries if a shower is available). The rest stays packed away.

Good luck with it! :=)

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Follow Up By: LeeJ - Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 13:21

Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 13:21
Thanks Kevin. Getting the weight off the car seems logical- I don't suppose it can be good to have that weight on the car for extended periods of time.
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Follow Up By: Member - Kevin S (QLD) - Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 14:52

Monday, Dec 30, 2013 at 14:52
LeeJ, you can get the weight off the back of the tow vehicle by winding down the dolly wheel and/or winding down the front corner steadies. If your van is down a bit at the back and you have two levelling ramps just pull the van up on them until level. If down at the front use them under the rear wheels of the tow vehicle. But finding these things out for your self is part of the adventure.

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Reply By: Member - Fab72 (Paradise SA) - Tuesday, Dec 31, 2013 at 09:59

Tuesday, Dec 31, 2013 at 09:59
Hello ..... I was just reading all the above comments and a couple of things sprung to mind. Great theories and logic too mind you.
P.S....I don't own a van and an overnighter for me is rolling out the swag.

1. In case of a fire...would it not be better to have your assets separated to minimise the loss?

2. What consideration is given to your vehicle getting stolen while you're asleep in the attached van? It happened only last year around here in Adelaide somewhere. One hell of a joy ride!

Just a thought.
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Follow Up By: KevinE - Wednesday, Jan 01, 2014 at 14:22

Wednesday, Jan 01, 2014 at 14:22
I like your logic Fab!

From now on, the chains & plugs come off too every time I unhitch!
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