Surveyor Generals Corner via Mulga Park Road.
Submitted: Wednesday, Jan 15, 2014 at 12:52
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Member - TEZ611(VIC)
Planing a trip in July '14, starting at the
Murray River border between NSW and SA and then north with the intention of travelling to all the corners in one trip. Have done them all before except Surveyor Generals. Has anyone had experience in this area and what to expect from the Mulga Park Road. I have been in touch with the Central Lands Council and they didn't say no to the permit, just that I was a bit premature. Here's hoping.
Any information would be helpful.
Cheers
Reply By: Danny 1 - Wednesday, Jan 15, 2014 at 16:21
Wednesday, Jan 15, 2014 at 16:21
The mulga park to sgc is a good easy trip..we have done it a few times..wouldn't bother with permits as it is a public road..just get the corner coordinates & make your own way out to the corner..you are supposed to go in to the community,pay the TO $$ & get a guided tour..you pay your $$ then he tells you the toyota's broken & sends you out anyway..
we have done it that way & also turned right up past mt connor to
the rock,Docker river then Giles..left the van at Giles & driven down to the corner..going that way we do get the free permit so you don't have to pay to go through the checkpoint to
the rock..
A good trip....enjoy
Danny
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Follow Up By: Echucan Bob - Wednesday, Jan 15, 2014 at 17:48
Wednesday, Jan 15, 2014 at 17:48
The information provided by Danny is at variance with that provided in the permits section of this website, the
local council website, and common knowledge.
If you do get pinged just driving around SGC it won't be much of a defence to say " But Danny said it would be OK!"
Bob
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Follow Up By: Ozhumvee - Wednesday, Jan 15, 2014 at 19:03
Wednesday, Jan 15, 2014 at 19:03
They are also installing toll gates on the western entrance to the NP so the "freebie" won't be for much longer.
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Follow Up By: Danny 1 - Wednesday, Jan 15, 2014 at 20:43
Wednesday, Jan 15, 2014 at 20:43
TOLL GATES ............Wonder if my e tag will work???
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Follow Up By: Echucan Bob - Wednesday, Jan 15, 2014 at 22:43
Wednesday, Jan 15, 2014 at 22:43
As it is now, you don't have to pay the park entrance fee at Uluru if you are just heading out west. You need to display your permit to prove that's what you're doing though.
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Follow Up By: KevinE - Saturday, Jan 18, 2014 at 10:56
Saturday, Jan 18, 2014 at 10:56
Hi Danny,
Am I reading correctly that you've traveled through the SA portion of the Mulga Park Road in recent times without the need of a permit?
My understanding is that you can't lawfully do that, but I would be very, very happy to be corrected, as I want to drive through there & I think I have Buckley's chance of getting a permit.
Cheers,
Kevin.
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Reply By: Echucan Bob - Wednesday, Jan 15, 2014 at 17:32
Wednesday, Jan 15, 2014 at 17:32
Tea, the CLC doesn't control that area. It's the WA mob that control access through Wingellina, and the APY mob who control access through SA.
Bob
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Reply By: Member - TEZ611(VIC) - Wednesday, Jan 15, 2014 at 20:57
Wednesday, Jan 15, 2014 at 20:57
Thanks guys, I will have a party of 5 cars so a bit hard to hide out. I don't mind going thru the permit process but history tells me to do it early. If you have a bit more info on who to annoy for the required permits I would be grateful. Travelling this big country as a tax paying Ozzie ,I am used to paying my way.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Echucan Bob - Wednesday, Jan 15, 2014 at 22:39
Wednesday, Jan 15, 2014 at 22:39
Permits for WA and NT are free. Permits for the APY Lands of SA are $20 per car - if you can get one. The deal from Wingellina to SGC is not a permit, more a nice little earner for the locals.
I have been checked for permits at Blackstone and Watarru (MtLindsay). Could be a substantial inconvenience if none held.
Bob
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Follow Up By: Mick O - Thursday, Jan 16, 2014 at 09:05
Thursday, Jan 16, 2014 at 09:05
Bob, just as a matter of personal interest, were you actually at the communities themselves when checked? Who asked to see your permit a local T/O or elder,
police or someone else?
I've always endevoured to avoid the communities when using the track as my original permits were community specific (ie; you could access Wingelina but other communities were to be avoided).
Casual interest only.
Cheers Mick
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Follow Up By: Member - TEZ611(VIC) - Thursday, Jan 16, 2014 at 11:27
Thursday, Jan 16, 2014 at 11:27
Thanks Bob and Mick,
Just checking the APY website and application form. It states several times within the application that "Transit permit to travellers and tourists will not be issued". Doesn't sound too friendly to me. Might give it a go via my local member being I am not interested in their communities, I just want to travel from A to B. Makes you glad you live in a free country!!!
Cheers
Terry.
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Reply By: Shaker - Thursday, Jan 16, 2014 at 11:18
Thursday, Jan 16, 2014 at 11:18
We pulled the pin in visiting SGC when we found that after paying for permits etc, we were also required to pay for an indigenous guide to accompany us, all up it was going to cost in excess of $700.00!
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Reply By: Danny 1 - Thursday, Jan 16, 2014 at 14:56
Thursday, Jan 16, 2014 at 14:56
The more people that give in & pay for these permits or simply give up the worse it will get.I feel that if you do the right thing [no exposed alcohol,no shooting,no rubbish] you cannot be fined for traveling along a gazetted road & you have to be able to
camp if you are tied or unwell..
I'm still yet to meet someone who has been fined for no permit..it's always me mate bills neighbour or something like that..
would love to talk to anybody that has..
cheers Danny
ps.. sorry this post has gone off track
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Reply By: Member - TEZ611(VIC) - Thursday, Jan 16, 2014 at 19:45
Thursday, Jan 16, 2014 at 19:45
Hi Danny. You are right on track actually. Google mulga park road and you will find it is a gazetted road except the right to drive a b-double has been repealed. Go figure!!
Cheers
Terry.
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Follow Up By: KevinE - Saturday, Jan 18, 2014 at 14:15
Saturday, Jan 18, 2014 at 14:15
Hi Terry,
Could you post a link please mate - I've been wearing Google out trying to where it says the SA bit of the Mulga Park Road is a gazetted road, & I can't find anything :(
Cheers mate,
Kevin.
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