Dingo Campers - Dandenong Victoria
Submitted: Tuesday, Feb 17, 2004 at 11:48
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Lyndal Tilley
Warning - for all potential buyers of the above campers.
I tried to buy a camper from the above company. I paid my desposit.
I then tried to arrange to pick up the camper and pay the remaining amount.
As my partner and I work fulltime, I tried to discuss a mutually agreeable time to pick up the camper.
I understand they are a small business and time can be difficult. However before I was able to get very far, I was told to ' bleep off' and they were withdrawing the sale.
I was totally dumbfounded and tried to sort the situation out. But they hung up on me.
I wish to warn people that if you do buy a camper from them, if that is the way they deal with things, what happens if for some unforeseen reason you have a problem with the campervan, will they to treat you in this way.
I was told that as a customer I had to fit in with them, and basically the interpretation I got was that is just tough for me.
They may have a good product from what I can see, but absolutely no service.
It makes me very insecure about how a customer who may need to claim on warranty will be treated.
I have discussed this with a friend who wished to also buy a camper and his reaction is no way. I have also discussed this with my father who has a small business and he says the fact that they wouldn't even discuss it and that they then swore at me that people should stay away from them.
I want all people to understand at all times I was polite and tried to work through the concerns they had.
To tell you the truth I was dumbfounded in respect of the whole situation.
Reply By: ian - Tuesday, Feb 17, 2004 at 13:04
Tuesday, Feb 17, 2004 at 13:04
Lyndal
I don't want to pass comment on
Dingo, but I didn't buy one! Time to take a breath, get your money, and enjoy your life without them. Get another camper and get into the bush!
There are many other campers to choose from, and I have said on this site before how happy I am with
Tambo Campers. An increasing number of my friends and I have all had a trouble-free run with their campers. The owners are friendly, supportive and above all, professional. The best advice I can give you is that when you are ready to look around you should include
Tambo. You won't regret it.
Good luck when getting your deposit back.
Ian
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Reply By: Gajm - Tuesday, Feb 17, 2004 at 13:52
Tuesday, Feb 17, 2004 at 13:52
That is pitiful, makes you wonder what the hell these people are doing in business, I had a not quite so bad experience with another company in Cranbourne, I was after a quote, called and emailed several times and told it would be done and emailed to me that night, still nothing…and this was early Dec. I figured maybe it was the busy time of year and arranged to meet with them and have a look at the model I was intending to buy, as they had one about to be picked up.
When I got there at the planned time with my wife and family after the 40 min drive, I was told by the guys wife who also works there that her husband wasn’t in, and wouldn’t be back till later that day, and she really seemed annoyed that we were there, and made it clear she didn’t want to show us the camper as she couldn’t set it up on her own, after a few minutes my wife and I looked at each other with that “stuff this” look, and were about to leave, when I thought bugger it, I want to at least see it after the hassle, and asked her if we could just have a look at the packed up unit.
She reluctantly agreed and took us into the showroom part, where after a few mins she started to thaw, and was happy to tell us a lot more about it. But like I said before, I just couldn’t get a quote for the model I wanted, even after printing out a list and leaving it with me.
Went to another Camper trailer supplier In Carrum Downs for a look, and they were most helpful as I looked around, but when I asked if I could get the trailer fitted with 16” split rims like my tow vehicle runs I was told “it would look Sh**house” I replied I wasn’t overly concerned with how it looked, as it would make life easier for me to have the same wheels, he shook his head like I was stupid and informed me he could do it,”but I’m telling you, it will look SH**house”….which made me wonder if he knew just what these things are used for.
So now I have ordered A Trak Shak, (arranged to pick it up at at the Caulfield camping show, cause it saves me another $300) A lot of the reasoning was of course because it suits our needs. A lot of it was feed back from people on here, who have them and use them. But a hell of a lot was the service from the company, even over the X-mas break while the factory was closed I could still get in touch and ask Peter questions. So it goes to show just what a huge difference a bit of customer service can make
Glenn
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Follow Up By: chook - Tuesday, Feb 17, 2004 at 16:10
Tuesday, Feb 17, 2004 at 16:10
Glenn,
we bought a trak shak from Peter. You'll find them a great company to deal with.
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Reply By: AndrewW - Tuesday, Feb 17, 2004 at 18:08
Tuesday, Feb 17, 2004 at 18:08
Lyndal,
I live quite near Dandenong and dropped in one day for a look. The guy was a bit intense and carried on quite a bit, but his wife was quite ok.
He told us that this was the last lot of campers he was making, and he had a contract making something for Ford utes, can't remember what though. He even bad mouthed the Trading Post for not removing his add when he asked. Apparently he has been using this line for a couple of years now. Who knows...
Interestingly, he tried to setup business at Anderson, and big roundabout just where you turn to go to Phillip Island. I used to live near there, and there was a huge uproar by him in the local paper, as the council refuse his permit to build a factory there. Quite funny really, but if you ever go past there are some trailers in the paddock at the top of the
hill with signs all over them protesting about the council and the dollars they lost over the whole debarcle. He obviously has some issues up top, the whole thing happened about eight years ago, but he hasn't let it go...
If he doesn't give the deposit back, round up some hench men
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Reply By: rolande- Tuesday, Feb 17, 2004 at 20:29
Tuesday, Feb 17, 2004 at 20:29
O.K., so I bought a
Dingo camper, always thought I was the black sheep in the family, seemed to have a slightly different experience though. Rang up prior to XMAS after viewing add in trading post. Rang first as I live about 4 hours away. Agree, guy is a bit of a nutter, but after some persistent, specific questioning got the answers I was after. Made an appointment to meet with cash in hand, ringing first to ensure the model I was looking for was in stock and was ready to go, he did mention customers being difficult by always wanting "the one right up the back that takes me days to get to". Arrived at arranged time. His son was the only one there, I think this was probably the best piece of luck I had, very helpful, quiet, answers questions enthusiastically, lots of kowledge. Paid on
the spot and was on the road within 10 minutes, even asked if I wanted it registered while I waited, decided against, (saved myself $50), every bit helps. No extravagant claims made about trailer/tent, told its limitations truthfully, have had no problems and have spent the last two months modifying with extra bits 'n pieces, still happy. If the old guy concentrated on making the things and letting his son sell them we would probably have a different opinion. Have nothing against the other brands but hard to complain about $2,800 brand new, can't afford $10,000+ for a camper
Just my opinion
Rolande
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Reply By: Member - Paul H - Tuesday, Feb 17, 2004 at 20:49
Tuesday, Feb 17, 2004 at 20:49
Having bought a
Dingo Camper over 5 years ago, We found them a good quality camper for a fair price. Having said that, Mr
Dingo was another story. He didnt tell us to " bleep off", but he was arrogant & pushy, saying he "didn't care if we bought it or not". His wife on the other hand was very pleasant. Sorry to hear about your bad experience but your not alone there. The bloke is a nutter.
Our camper was excellent & travelled everywhere, but we have since sold it & gone back to tent camping. ( I like to travel light).
These days there are plenty of other lower priced campers on the market than when we were buying, so I suggest you get your deposit back & buy elsewhere.
Good Luck & happy travelleing
PMKGoogs track 2003
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Reply By: Member - Geoff & Karen - Tuesday, Feb 17, 2004 at 23:06
Tuesday, Feb 17, 2004 at 23:06
I know all you guys are probably in
Melbourne, but Wodonga is only 3 hours from there. We brought a Kanga Kamper from Wodonga 5 months ago and havn't had to worry about the after sales service cause we havn't needed it. The Kanga is really good, MIck, the owner is also a pleasure to do business with, and nothing was to much trouble for him. The Kanga's might be a bit pricey for some, but the old saying is, "you get what you pay for".
Lyndal, I can't imagine the anger you would be going through right now, I would have been down there and ripped his head off by now........good luck in trying to get your deposit back...........I would be taking a little bit of back up if I was you, like a 6 foot 6 male, built like a brick bleep house.let us all know how you get on tomorrow. We will all be right behind you.
KarenKind Regards
Karen & Geoff
(Happy holidaying)
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Follow Up By: Member - Toonfish - Wednesday, Feb 18, 2004 at 00:36
Wednesday, Feb 18, 2004 at 00:36
did you mean mr Al?1999 NISSAN NAVARA DUALCAB
DIESEL 3.2 & SPRINGY CARLTON TOY
2 awestruck kids (dads driving!)
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Follow Up By: Wombat - Wednesday, Feb 18, 2004 at 10:39
Wednesday, Feb 18, 2004 at 10:39
Mr Al's a big marshmallow!"Live today as if there may be no tomorrow"
Wombat
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Follow Up By: Member - Geoff & Karen - Wednesday, Feb 18, 2004 at 10:48
Wednesday, Feb 18, 2004 at 10:48
Lyndal could probably borrow Mr Al and my husband who is 6"6 and built like a brick bleep house.....................my hubby is a big softie too! Apart from if someone upsets him (but that takes alot).......imagine the look on Mr
Dingo's face then...................lol lol lol
Karen
Kind Regards
Karen & Geoff
(Happy holidaying)
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Follow Up By: Member - Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Wednesday, Feb 18, 2004 at 12:01
Wednesday, Feb 18, 2004 at 12:01
Wombat....I'm not sure he'd appreciate the description....Life - Live it , Love it !
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Follow Up By: Wombat - Wednesday, Feb 18, 2004 at 13:38
Wednesday, Feb 18, 2004 at 13:38
BUT . . . . he told me he loves it when I call him marshmallow.
. . . . and sweetcheeks
. . . . and cuddly pumpkin"Live today as if there may be no tomorrow"
Wombat
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Follow Up By: Member - Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Wednesday, Feb 18, 2004 at 13:40
Wednesday, Feb 18, 2004 at 13:40
Oh, ok Wombie..I forgot about that little thing you 2 have going.....you forgot .....love muffin.....
Life - Live it , Love it !
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Follow Up By: Wombat - Wednesday, Feb 18, 2004 at 15:42
Wednesday, Feb 18, 2004 at 15:42
But I hate muffins!"Live today as if there may be no tomorrow"
Wombat
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Follow Up By: Member - Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Wednesday, Feb 18, 2004 at 15:47
Wednesday, Feb 18, 2004 at 15:47
well I think I've heard you utter "my succulent little ducky" and I know you love ducks !!Life - Live it , Love it !
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Follow Up By: . - Wednesday, Feb 18, 2004 at 21:30
Wednesday, Feb 18, 2004 at 21:30
could we please leave the duck out of this lolol only picture i could find that wouldnt
annoy/upset/confuse/stir any one
unless your a snail
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Reply By: Member - Bradley- Thursday, Feb 19, 2004 at 11:00
Thursday, Feb 19, 2004 at 11:00
Wow, i'm going to get lessons off this guy for my job LOL......
Last time i was over in SA i was driving past the Trak Shak factory, so i drop in for a look,
Well they couldn't have been more helpfull, wanted to know all about my vehicle and intended destinations and use etc.. Took me straight out the back and let me crawl all over ( and under ) a few different models, answered technical questions without holding back . Happy to talk about any mods or extras, they even kit out with spare stub axles etc if you want !!! Of course i may have just been fishing for some ideas , But these guys were great, even let me know how i could write it off on tax because of my job :-) .. Excellent product, excellent service.Just killin time till
easter...............go and play in the dirt, instead of workin in it......
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Follow Up By: Lyndal Tilley - Thursday, Feb 19, 2004 at 11:27
Thursday, Feb 19, 2004 at 11:27
I just want to say thank you to all of you in respect of the difficulties I have had with
Dingo campers.
It's been great to have the support and the
feedback.
Well, there was no problem in getting back my deposit. Mind you Dianne (the wife) did not want to have any discussion. And of course he never showed his face.
I considered all of your suggestions, and in between time my partner went to Outback campers, Frankston Dandenong Road, Carrum Downs and purchased a camper. It might have been a little dearer, but the quality was just as good, if not better. He stated the customer service was very professional, he was provided with every opportunity to ask questions and is confident that will have good sales and service backup if ever needed.
So we should be going happy camping soon.
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Reply By: Dingo Campers - Thursday, Mar 04, 2004 at 21:12
Thursday, Mar 04, 2004 at 21:12
Answer to the half-truths - RE: Lyndal Tilley's post, 17/2/04.
Dingo campers is a family run, "small" business (factory direct), which has been operating for 30 years. Because we have no large overheads, no "sales-people", we are able to offer great bargains (no tea or coffee) at very, very competitive prices - in fact, we advise people to
shop around and compare.
Mrs. Tilley and companion did arrive to look at our campers (approx. 25 on display), on Saturday 14th February. Even though we had just closed, and had a prior engagement that afternoon, I was not rude and I showed them around.
They "fell in love" with an ex-demo, offroad camper ($840 off the original, cheap price) and said they'd be back. Mrs. Tilley rang early Monday, 16th February, and asked if we would hold the camper (with no deposit) untl 11:30am. We did; however, she did not turn up until 12:30pm. She paid her $200 deposit (that's all we ask), and left saying that she would ring to arrange a pick-up time (factory times were explained to her).
Mrs. Tilley rang back with the attitude of we had to work around her for pick-up. I tried to explain that there were four other people's sales and pick-ups before hers, and that Saturday 21st was already "booked out", with two other pick-ups (One man was driving down from Albury). She "suggested" that I work later! Explained that Wednesday 18th, or Friday 20th and the following week were available. However, she suggested that this was not good enough!
On ourownundertaking, we decided to refund her deposit of $200, so that she could
shop elsewhere. Yes, my husband did "lose his cool", as she was arrogant, un-cooperative, and unwilling to listen.
As far as our after sales service is concerned - Our name is oneverycamper that we sell. So warranty and queries are not a problem. We even assist where we can. If people buy our vans second hand, our business has then flourished on our good name.
In reply to Andrew W. Re: Campers for utes - This is still in the pipeline. Regarding the matter near Phillip Island: your facts are incorrect. The issue wasnotover building a factory (don't need one), it was over the local council's attitude towardsallsmall businesses in the area (by the way - they were cited as the worst council in Victoria by the Herald Sun).
In reply to Rowdy: Wedo notandhave notever made rooftop campers. You are confusing us with another company!
- Dianne (
Dingo Campers)
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Follow Up By: Lyndal Tilley - Friday, Mar 05, 2004 at 11:30
Friday, Mar 05, 2004 at 11:30
Reply to Dianne from
Dingo Campers
Of course you would have to try a dispute the facts. You and your husband stuffed up. You treated me, who was your customer, appallingly.
For you write the above suggests your recollection of events is clouded resulting in what could be considered to be a number of untruths in your email. Actually I am too being nice about it, what you have actually stated in most instances is untrue. Lets also be clear, I did not rescind the sale, you did. I still trying to discuss about the pick up when your husband decided to do so.
All I can say is that what I wrote originally was the facts. There are too many laws in this country, to not be sure of your facts.
I took the action of sharing my experiences about your business on this website, so any potential customer you may have is not only made aware of the way you do business, but also so you and your husband get it through your heads, that you do not treat people this way, even if you are a family run business.
I am not used to be told to ' bleep off' or be hung up on when I am the customer and I am trying to discuss and find a solution which suits all parties. How can I be rude, uncoperative and unwilling to listen when I are stunned with what was going on.
I think you have good product, but I still believe if that is the way you treat a customer, you'd have to be consider what is the aftersales service likely to be if it was ever needed. A customer has to have confidence. I had none in the end.
Dianne, I hope you and your husband learn from this and try and understand about what is customer service and as such general politeness as
well. It is now all up to you both.
Good luck.
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