Warning for travellers to QLD

Submitted: Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 10:32
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The Courier Mail revealed today that police will be dropping speed tolerance again, the third time since July. I know there have been some heated debates here in the past about the driving styles of some drivers. The police will not reveal their tolerance level but they have indicated that there has been an increase of 23% in drivers booked for speeding (no surprises here).

Please be aware if you are travelling to the sunshine state that it will pay to be more vigilant about your speed.

I suspect that these moves will slow traffic down overall and this will add time to your travels.

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Reply By: Bazooka - Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 12:46

Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 12:46
Given the ADR permits speedo inaccuracy of +-10% for speeds above 40kph there is SOME argument that 10% should be the tolerance level. Good luck with that in Victoria for example. Timely reminder though because although it's rare that my missus drives the Jack I can't recall telling her about the effect of the bigger tyres on the speedo.
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Follow Up By: TTTSA - Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 13:19

Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 13:19
Good luck trying to use the ADR +-10% in court!

Peter
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Follow Up By: Bazooka - Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 13:36

Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 13:36
Yep, too late by then Peter but hopefully police are applying a reasonable level of tolerance, just they they usually do with horn tooting or an undetected rear light problem for example. Officiousness is (rightly in most casdes) one of the greatest impediments to respect for the law imo.
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Follow Up By: Notso - Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 13:48

Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 13:48
The latest ADR requires that the speedo not show less than the real speed of your vehicle, that's why most speedo readings show you are doing 4 or 5 ks more than you actually are at 100kph. The speedo can have a tolerance of I think 10% the other way but that is irrelevant.
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Follow Up By: Bazooka - Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 14:13

Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 14:13
True. I guess 7+ years is adequate warning.
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Follow Up By: Winner W - Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 16:47

Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 16:47
Well I think this money grabbing and key performance indicators from QLD police are going to bite back. Soon you will have a police force regarded by the public as vindictive and just meeting quotas to help their budget . Eventually the public will just think of cops as an enemy and goodwill flows out the back door. All under the disguise of Road safety .What rubbish .
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Follow Up By: Dingojim - Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 16:59

Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 16:59
In Qld there is no Police Force it is the Police Service. I guess we all know what happens when the bull services the cow. The same as it will do to your drinking fund if you're caught speeding.
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Follow Up By: Notso - Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 17:31

Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 17:31
Ah well, there's one sure way of avoiding speeding fines I guess!
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Follow Up By: Winner W - Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 18:18

Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 18:18
I dont speed. Havent had a fine in 12 years
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Follow Up By: Member - Rod N (QLD) - Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 19:51

Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 19:51
Other states have tighter tolerances. Don't speed and you won't contribute to Can Do'c coffers.
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Follow Up By: Member - Ian F (WA) - Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 19:53

Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 19:53
A few years back I was informed it is up to the driver to know what the actual speed of the vehicle is as the law says ignorance is no excuse.
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Follow Up By: disco driver - Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 20:37

Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 20:37
ADR's now state that the speedo on any vehicle must not read slow, ie indicate a speed slower than the actual speed over the ground.

Changing to larger tyres/rims may allow the speedo to read faster than normal and hence show 100 when speed over the ground is higher than the allowed speed.

If one pays attention to driving and an occasional glance at the speedo and the speed limit signs, one is not very likely to contribute to the Govt's coffers. simple ain't it.


Disco
(who's been driving for nearly 50 years and has only had 3 fines in that time, one for no taillight on vehicle and 2 for speeding)
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 20:56

Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 20:56
There wouldn't be many in this forum that don't have a GPS, they display an accurate speed.
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Follow Up By: Bazooka - Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 22:26

Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 22:26
Sounds simple I agree Disco but when you're in an unfamiliar large city with constantly changing speed signs (or poorly signposted areas) you can easily get caught out. For example when last in Sydney I found myself sometimes sitting for short periods on 60 when the limit had changed to 70, other times the reverse - all on the same road. Easy to miss a speed sign when you're watching the traffic. It's sheer luck whether you get pinged or not in some cases.
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Reply By: Lyn W3 - Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 18:38

Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 18:38
You can also get fined in Qld for leaving your car with the window down more than 5cm

Saw a policeman walking down the street in Bundy today issuing tickets.

Fined for leaving window down
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Follow Up By: Bazooka - Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 20:03

Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 20:03
Precisely what I was talking about above. I can see the logic but surely a warning and number plate taken would be adequate.
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Follow Up By: Life Member TourBoy, Bundaberg - Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 20:26

Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 20:26
It has been on the local news a few times over the last couple of years and in the news Mail. You can also get done for leaving a running car unattended, or with the keys in the ignition or unlocked and unattended.
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Reply By: The Bantam - Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 20:26

Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 20:26
Reducing the tolerance but wont say what that tolerance now is or what it was.

Yep more of the usual government misinformation and fear mongering about road safety issues.

They as that there has been an increase of 23%...but do they actually say that the 23% is due to the reduction in tolerance or is it due to greater inforcement effort or simple a seasonal increase juts out right BS.

HMMM... twenty THREE percent......not 25 or 20.

Sorry these traffic police making media statements are worse than politicians.

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Reply By: Honky - Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 21:35

Tuesday, Jan 28, 2014 at 21:35
Fatigue is the main killer (but less profitable) which is probably due to "don't speed don't get fined brigade holding up the traffic.
Not everyone is retired and wants to go 20 to 30 ks under the speed limit.
I drive for a living and have noticed that a lot more people are going quite a lot under the speed limit and will not move over to let the big line of traffic behind them get passed.
I am not a trucky but feel very sorry for them as they penalised for being late for deliveries.
I set my cruise control to the speed limit based on my GPS and even that sometimes will go a couple of Ks over the speed limit mainly downhill and guess were the cops sit. Note that with cruise I can concentrate on safe driving, not looking at the speed all the time.
Going a couple of ks over the speed limit is not the killer on the open road ( not taking about in town limits). I cannot even think of an accident recently that involved going just over the speed limit.
The reason they may be reducing the margins in Qld is that people are only just speeding and the the Qld State governments income has dropped because the roads are safer.
Just think if the governments did not get income from speeders than they would have to increase other taxes or better still fined the slow drivers.

Honky
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Follow Up By: chisel - Wednesday, Jan 29, 2014 at 00:15

Wednesday, Jan 29, 2014 at 00:15
Maybe set your cruise to 2kph below the limit. It will not add anything significant to your travel time. (eg. adds 2 mins to a 2 hour journey, assuming cruise is used 100% of the time)
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Reply By: Member - Beatit (QLD) - Wednesday, Jan 29, 2014 at 12:51

Wednesday, Jan 29, 2014 at 12:51
My other concern is how it will effect my driving style. In the past I have been quite happy to drive to the conditions and be part of the traffic flow which may be moving in excess of the signed speed. I was gritting my teeth this morning driving at the speed limit as measured by my inaccurate speedo but mildly confident that I was not breaking the law.

The bride told me that I was driving like an old person! Yeah, great now I'm a crank old man and driving like one! I guess this is what society wants from me I just need to get with the program.

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