Elite Dirty Harry

Submitted: Wednesday, Jan 29, 2014 at 17:06
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I noticed some discussion a while ago regarding the payload of a Dirty Harry caravan.

I have just had a reply from the Elite manufacture's sales manager:

"The actual tare weight is around 1800 kgs and the ball weight 150 kgs ,the chassis and suspension are rated at 2600 kgs which would give you a 800 kg pay load."

There was opinion that the unit could only carry 250kg and most of that would be taken up with water, gas bottles etc etc

Hopes this helps anybody looking at one these models.


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Reply By: Robert H2 - Thursday, Jan 30, 2014 at 11:27

Thursday, Jan 30, 2014 at 11:27

While the chassis and suspension is rated at 2600 Kgs, it has to carry the body of the van?

The figures that are most relevant are Tare weight (which is nominated as 1800 Kgs) and the Aggregate Total Mass (ATM). These are what the manufacture stamp on the VIN plate which is attached to the van.

For a 800 kg payload the ATM would have to be 2600 Kgs.

Possible you are referring to ATM when you use the words "the chassis and suspension are rated at 2600 Kgs"

What does Elite nominate as the ATM for this van?

My understanding is that ball weight is usually in the range of 8 -12% of the ATM, so the 150 Kgs would appear light. For a single axel van with an ATM of 2600 Kgs I would expect the ball weight to be closer to 250 Kgs.

These figures are really important considerations when selecting a van so best for buyers to clarify them prior to a final decision. Amongst the many considerations buyers will need to compare the maximum allowable tow ball weight and towing capacity of their vehicle with the van manufactures compliance plate figures.

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Follow Up By: 213 - Thursday, Jan 30, 2014 at 17:12

Thursday, Jan 30, 2014 at 17:12
From their website the ATM is 2000Kg - 2,200Kg


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Follow Up By: Robert H2 - Thursday, Jan 30, 2014 at 23:14

Thursday, Jan 30, 2014 at 23:14
The payload capacity of a van is critical to its use.

Many manufactures offer vans with 400Kgs payload capacity.

The information provided by 213 indicates a potential problem with this van so I have done a search for a review of the "Dirty Harry" and found this article in Australian Caravan + RV Magazine.

In the article this reviewer stated the following:-

"Our other concern is its weight. With a tare of around 1850kg and an ATM of just over 2000kg, there's barely enough load capacity to fill the van's two 60L water tanks and two 9kg gas bottles. With under bed storage, a kitchen and tunnel boot to fill, there's not much left."

I have a 16' off road van and often load more than 400Kgs on board, but as I'm still about 100kgs below the manufactures ATM the van is safe and more importantly legal.

Clearly payload is an issue with the Elite "Dirty Harry" or have the manufactures address the issue?
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