'Bog in a bag' an alternative toilet!

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Hi,
I just won one of these...
http://www.boginabag.net.au/index.html
after seeing it in the current issue of 'Great Walks' Magazine and entering a competition.

It should be a talking point around the campfires on upcoming trips!
I thought it might be a great product for other travellers who do overnight hikes or bush camp and are looking for an alternative to digging a hole and burying waste.


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Reply By: Member - PJR (NSW) - Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:03

Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:03
These ones have been around for years. And we have bags to fit.

I don't like the one shown at boginabag. net. au because if you run out of bags you do not have the option to use it over a "hole". There is chair framework in the way. Not very new and innovative.

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Follow Up By: Member - Duncan W (WA) - Wednesday, Feb 12, 2014 at 01:03

Wednesday, Feb 12, 2014 at 01:03
Bought one of those for my wife's Birthday a few years back cos she was always complaining about squatting giving her sore knees. She reckons it's the crappiest pressie I've ever given her. There's just no pleasing some people is there.

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Reply By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:50

Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:50
The bags are $1.40 each.
Whatever happened to "Spend a Penny"?
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Follow Up By: Member - johnat - Wednesday, Feb 12, 2014 at 20:27

Wednesday, Feb 12, 2014 at 20:27
We went metric - and everyone knows that metrication increases the inflation rate!
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Reply By: Member -Pinko (NSW) - Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 13:17

Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 13:17
I already have one of those three legged chairs.
From experience if only one leg sinks in the sand it would make great video material in a bogging scenario.
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Follow Up By: Member - PJR (NSW) - Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 16:44

Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 16:44
And why the foldable stool shown in my post above is a little safer.

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Reply By: Bazooka - Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 14:50

Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 14:50
Yep been around for yonks. Just love their solution to disposal - just pop the bag in a bin. If the seat design wasn't poor enough already that comment would be more than enough to make me avoid their product like the plague.
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Follow Up By: Member-Heather MG NSW - Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 15:16

Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 15:16
No different to disposing of babies nappies though, and a better solution than many people choose when they leave mounds of human excretment and toilet paper on top of the ground.
The bags are supposedly biodegradable and the crystals absorb liquid and get rid of odours so could be carried out of campsites. (Might be best to double bag it though!)

It is aimed at overnight hikers I think, with lightweight seat as well.

I will probably never use it as we have a toilet on board the van but it might be useful when we take our 4 year old grand daughter out fishing in our boat. Twice so far, at the furtherest point from home, she has needed to go to the toilet and won't be persuaded to use a hole in the ground well away from the waters edge, despite there being no one but me and her around!
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Follow Up By: Bazooka - Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 16:12

Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 16:12
Agreed Heather, but then none of those practices should be condoned or encouraged. It still amazes, no appals, me the way people leave rubbish stacked high around rarely-serviced bins in bush areas - even those within a few hours of "civilisation" - when they could just as easily crush, pack and carry it out. If you can carry it in full why can't you carry it out empty?
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 17:52

Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 17:52
It amazes me how many disposable nappies are left where they are taken off!
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Reply By: ExplorOz Team - Michelle - Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 15:10

Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 15:10
We also sell the Pop Up Pooper, which is a bag toilet concept not that disimilar. See Pop Up Pooper
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Follow Up By: Member - Scott M (NSW) - Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 16:22

Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 16:22
have one of those - but haven't used it in anger yet...
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Reply By: Ross M - Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 15:44

Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 15:44
You will have to take along that famous Australian singer, Loo Rolls to make it all an enjoyable, satisfying and shared experience.
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Follow Up By: Member-Heather MG NSW - Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 16:31

Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 16:31
Haha...that's good Ross!
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Follow Up By: Slow one - Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 16:39

Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 16:39
Thank god he was a Kiwi
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Follow Up By: Ross M - Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 18:47

Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 18:47
Who allowed him in to claim Oz as home?
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Follow Up By: Member - John Baas (WA) - Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 21:29

Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 21:29
Moderators please...it's nowhere near Friday yet...

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Follow Up By: Member-Heather MG NSW - Wednesday, Feb 12, 2014 at 05:50

Wednesday, Feb 12, 2014 at 05:50
Yes, it's degenerating into 'toilet' humour John!

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Follow Up By: Member - Matt M - Thursday, Feb 13, 2014 at 10:59

Thursday, Feb 13, 2014 at 10:59
This thread is getting bogged down, move on.
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Follow Up By: Hairy (NT) - Friday, Feb 14, 2014 at 20:34

Friday, Feb 14, 2014 at 20:34
na.......no ones had a movement yet......
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Reply By: MUZBRY- Life member(Vic) - Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 16:03

Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 16:03
Gday
I hope you all realise that it is against the law to put sewerage to land fill , including baby's disposable nappies.
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Follow Up By: Ross M - Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 18:49

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Tons of it gos into landfill through the normal garbage system everyday, thanks to the councils trucks and city bins.
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Follow Up By: MUZBRY- Life member(Vic) - Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 19:00

Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 19:00
Still against the law.

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Follow Up By: Shaker - Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 20:43

Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 20:43
They should be banned, they are an environmental nightmare compounded by laziness!
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Follow Up By: MUZBRY- Life member(Vic) - Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 21:52

Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 21:52
Go Shaker, my sentiments exactly ...
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Follow Up By: Member - John and Val - Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 22:03

Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 22:03
From one Council (Clarence Valley 2012) - advice here on how to prepare a disposable nappy to go to landfill. If its illegal they dont say so.

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Follow Up By: Member-Heather MG NSW - Wednesday, Feb 12, 2014 at 05:58

Wednesday, Feb 12, 2014 at 05:58
I didn't use them as they were a new and very expensive option when we had our family however having been closely involved when our two grandchildren were born, I must say they are a big help to new mothers. So much less washing and drying of cloth nappies, so less water, nappy soaker, detergent and electricity usage as well as the time it takes to do it all.
I don't see it as being a 'lazy' option at all...especially as most women return to work while babies are still in nappies, however I don't like the garbage they generate and I see it as a huge problem environmentally.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Wednesday, Feb 12, 2014 at 09:24

Wednesday, Feb 12, 2014 at 09:24
I guess we will have to just agree to disagree, as I said earlier they are an environmental nightmare that also seem to have made toilet training a thing of the past!
A far as lazy goes, I have seen them behind trees in the High Country, lying in the deserts, in gutters & in car parks where they have just been put out the car door before driving off!

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Follow Up By: Member - johnat - Wednesday, Feb 12, 2014 at 20:34

Wednesday, Feb 12, 2014 at 20:34
"... they are an environmental nightmare ..."
But that, in and of itself, does NOT make them illegal! That they SHOULD BE is anogther matter (which I agree with, BTW).

Fortunately, my "baby" is 27 and no longer living at home - in fact she's married and working in UK - and I no longer have use for nappies of any type. UNTIL, that is, I need incontinence pads! ;)
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Follow Up By: MUZBRY- Life member(Vic) - Thursday, Feb 13, 2014 at 09:02

Thursday, Feb 13, 2014 at 09:02
Gday
Its not the nappie that is illegal, its the contents of the nappie that is illegal to go to land fill. As John and Val 's council form says," clean the contents to sewer before putting nappie in the bin"..



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Reply By: Member - John (Vic) - Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 16:17

Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 16:17
Dig ya hole, do ya business then put your used toilet paper or wet ones into a brown paper bag such as a lunch bag (200 for a couple of dollars from the supermarket)
Fill in the hole properly and put the brown paper bag into your rubbish burn bag for burning on a campfire at a suitable later time or disposal in a proper bin.
If ladies are doing number ones only and not using a seat they just put the wipes into a paper bag also as outlined.

Job done! No paper buried or thrown, no half burned waste such as wet ones that are hard to burn in a hole and no lighting fires in a hurry.
Everyone knows what's in the brown paper bags and treats the rubbish accordingly.

I carry two different garbage bags in my rear wheel rubbish bag, one carries the burnable stuff the other carries the non burnable such as cans or bottles etc.
The system works very well, no smell, little cost and I take out or dispose of my rubbish properly and without any hassle.
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Follow Up By: Member - John and Val - Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 18:23

Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 18:23
Agree John, all very easy really. Just wonder why everyone cant manage to do it.

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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 19:36

Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 19:36
I'm buggered if I know Val, the rubbish issues I come across in my travels drives me nuts, I'm sure you're just as frustrated.
There is simply no need to leave any rubbish of any sort anywhere.
You cart it in, then cart it out. It's empty and lighter to carry out.

Same people who are too lazy to deal with waste are generally the same who can't put their damn campfire out properly either.

If we don't educate travelers then I have no doubt we will all suffer the consequences.

A little story, I was at the Calvert Ranges off the CSR a number of years ago, I spent more than an hour with the shovel scooping up toilet paper scattered around the camp area and hanging from trees and putting it in the fire.
I made the comment that this sort of disrespectful behavior will really piss the TO's off, nobody likes this sort of rubbish discarded on their own property and wouldn't put up with it, why do it here!

Sure enough, several years later they discontinued permits to the Calverts, one reason given, the rubbish left behind.


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Follow Up By: The Bantam - Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 22:22

Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 22:22
How about this for a novel solution.

Reinstate the permits and require the permit holders to carry toilet paper stamped with their permit number :).

add large fines for in correct practices.

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Reply By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 16:33

Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 16:33
HMMM ! I think this post has gone down the toilet! We use a flushing Fiamma portable! Much more upmarket ! :)
I have to say that having your own portable has its benefits. I have been to places that are popular and in the morning the line up for the long drop is..... long! Not the situation I want to be in. Its much easier and more convenient to dump your portable in the long drop after the queue has gone! Praise the portable!!
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Follow Up By: Member - PJR (NSW) - Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 16:43

Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 16:43
Very true Michael. That is the primary reason why we got the portaloo.

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Follow Up By: The Explorer - Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 18:49

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Hi

I was under the impression that dumping the contents of portable chemical toilets into "long drop" (i.e. self composting) toilets (and even those using septic tanks) was not a good idea...but could be wrong, suppose there is a range of scenarios.

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Follow Up By: Pete Jackman (SA) - Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 19:34

Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 19:34
It depends on the chemicals you use. We only use the Coles napisan which is septic safe. Our home black water system is a full recycling unit and it is fine in that.

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Follow Up By: The Explorer - Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 20:43

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Good stuff..

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Reply By: Dingojim - Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 16:53

Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 16:53
I am getting some very good ideas from this thread. Like how I'm going to get square with the people who sent me dud presents last Xmas. By sending them one of these 'dunnies on the run'.
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Follow Up By: Ross M - Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 18:54

Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 18:54
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Reply By: Member - Russler - Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 19:02

Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 19:02
I actually liked the idea, even just as a 'lightweight' stool for hiking. There are lighter stools, but they aren't rated to support my weight (85 kgs). At 125 kgs, this would do the job with loads of spare, provided I agree to carry the extra weight. Not sure I can sneak in any more entrendres whilst posting a serious reply and still staying true to the subject :D
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Reply By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 20:06

Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 20:06
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Follow Up By: Member - Toyocrusa (NSW) - Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 20:54

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Wonder how long it would take to wear the bottom off that one? lol. Bob.
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 21:55

Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 21:55
No way not for me, I'd be sitting there enjoying the view reading the paper when some bastard would come driving down the road/track upsetting the abvience.
I'd prefer to take my seat and hide in the bush were no one can see me and upset my relaxation.

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Follow Up By: Ross M - Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 22:06

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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Tuesday, Feb 11, 2014 at 22:44

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Absolutely Ross :)

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Follow Up By: Member - PJR (NSW) - Wednesday, Feb 12, 2014 at 08:37

Wednesday, Feb 12, 2014 at 08:37
The mind boggles!!
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Follow Up By: Echucan Bob - Wednesday, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:39

Wednesday, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:39
What is the maximum speed at which it can be safely used? Surely the bag is superfluous! Great for morning peak hour traffic. You wouldn't want to sit on the tow ball by mistake.
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Reply By: Echucan Bob - Thursday, Feb 13, 2014 at 08:18

Thursday, Feb 13, 2014 at 08:18
"Hi, I just won one of these..."

In some cities you'd be saying "Hi, I just got hit by one of these", where the practice is to tie the bag closed on completion and then fling it as far as you can like the hammer throw.

Forrest Gump had an expression to cover the situation where you happen to be where the bag lands and bursts.

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Reply By: Member-Heather MG NSW - Saturday, Feb 15, 2014 at 14:24

Saturday, Feb 15, 2014 at 14:24
When I started this thread I didn't realize just how much interest/controversy it would generate, and I certainly didn't set out to do that!
This product is obviously aimed at people who occasionally do a walk in and carry out type of hike where there is no other toilet option. eg in an alpine National Park where its often illegal to leave solid human or other waste.
In these situations, a seat of some type is also a luxury so as to not have to sit on the ground so it fulfils two purposes, if necessary.
I am aware that there are plenty of other options for travellers as far as toilets are concerned.

I was also rather excited to have finally won something...anything!

Thank you to those of you who have responded. I have especially enjoyed reading the humorous comments.

regards,
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