New Patrols

Ironjosh.
On a serious note, has your 80 failed you, is it still in good condition.
If you have answered no to the first and yes to the second question, why go backwards.
The 80 is the toughest and most capable 4wd in oz, maybe save some money and repower the beast if you need to, fit aftermarket seats if you need to.
I would rather have reliability than looks, particularly when you already have questions regarding it's problems. In 5 years time there will probably not be a great deal in resale on their current reputations.
Cheeers.
Tony F8

Well it goes like this- the 80 series is great, but I'm constantly replacing things. It's done 350,000 k's, its gutless, can only tow 2 tonne, needs a paint job badly. Yes, very good offroad and I will say I love the car to bits, but I'm finding myself constantly repairing it.

I fail to see how a new patrol with factory rear diff lock and very good front lsd can be that far behind the 80 series...

As for the questions about the reliability issues- I was talking to a bloke the other day about his 200 series, and he installed an extra fuel filter after the factory one because water in the fuel is a big problem. Need I go into the "lifelong" fuel filter problems with the Hilux. I've come to the conclusion they are all much of a muchness these days.

My Grandfather has had new patrols for 15 years- he's only ever done clutches in the newer ones (from towing and turbo lag)- which is why I'm going auto.

Still thinking about it but good to hear both sides of the story!

Josh

You don't like yours?

Love it and had since new,2003! It's got 360,000 and cost nothing other than normal servicing ! It's done heaps of off road and still has the original clutch but it's a 4.2tdi. My next choice would be a Toyota 200 but it's a different league if you get a major problem$$$$$$$! I will probably buy a well loved low k 200 series next if I ever decide to part with my Patrol. Ps, The cost of a brand new crate 4.2 engine is $9000, it can cost more if you stuff a fuel pump and injectors on a 200 series so it's something for me to think about also! Michael

Also patrols and land cruisers are not the only contenders but in the big vehicles there is not too much else! Michael

A friend's buddy just had catastrophic engine failure in a v8 twin turbo LC at only 160K. Toyota had already rebuilt the motor under warranty due to oil issues. The latest bill $21K...ouch!

Don't get me wrong, I love my Patrol, my second new GU 4.2 TD and no problems at all since 1999 over both vehicles but if you are tall, footwell space is very tight and the front seats are ordinary unless they have improved them in the later years. Third row back seats (2) are only good for kids or double leg amputees A highly strung 4 cylinder diesel engine in a 2500 kg vehicle is not my ideal set up. Ride is rough but that comes with solid axle i guess but I'm thinking of a bit of comfort when the time comes so it wont be another Patrol. Michael

Isn't the new Y62 IFS? Looks pretty capable?

Y62 is petrol only with no diesel in the foreseeable future. Y62 is basically catering for the Arab countries and the USA where petrol rules! Michael

petrol power vs diesel reliability vs petrol cheap repair costs vs diesel high repair costs.... I don't see any real advantage either way these days since the price of diesel has sky-rocketed.. At the moment a petrol hilux (for example) would be cheaper in the long run due to cheaper repair costs and less load when towing.... Just a thought.

Just remember that the Y62 ONLY runs on Premium Petrol.

While I still don't think any of the new offerings stack up well against the 4800's I like, the Y62 is quite interesting, actually using less fuel than the 4800 but its worth noting Lyn that the premium fuel it needs can be the cheapest.

This is because most E10 is actually 95 octane , and average power/fuel loss appears around 3% car dependant.

Maybe I'm too practical for my own good! What would a patrol auto box cost to rebuild if it had a major failure? Michael

That's the same as one of those new Colorado 7's. I don't see me cruising the CSR or OTT in that.

Don't seem to know what these new vehicles are capable of do you?