Manual or Auto

Submitted: Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 16:38
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Hi all

Wanting some feedback from all the loyal Nissan owners.
I'm wanting to purchase another Nissan Patrol (3.0 litre) however unable to decide on auto or manual.
I previously owned a ST 3500 auto which was very good but a little thirsty.
Any feedback is welcome
Thanks

Munji
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Reply By: Member - Rosss - Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 17:39

Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 17:39
what's a Manual.
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Follow Up By: coonick - Monday, Mar 17, 2014 at 14:40

Monday, Mar 17, 2014 at 14:40
something owners of automatics cant drive...
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Follow Up By: Member - Rosss - Monday, Mar 17, 2014 at 17:47

Monday, Mar 17, 2014 at 17:47
Very Smart, so you think just because we drive auto's we can't drive a manual, Well it just so happens if you have changed as many gears as I have after 30 years in the transport industry you wouldn't want to see another gearlever either. If you want gears, try up to 18 and 20 speed roadrangers and spicers, twin stick macks and double deck Volvo splitters, then we will see who can drive a manual.
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Follow Up By: coonick - Saturday, Mar 29, 2014 at 20:07

Saturday, Mar 29, 2014 at 20:07
good for you rosss !!!
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Reply By: Member - John - Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 17:40

Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 17:40
what's a loyal Nissan 3lt owner..................
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Follow Up By: coonick - Monday, Mar 17, 2014 at 14:42

Monday, Mar 17, 2014 at 14:42
someone who wont pay for over priced Toyotas.
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Follow Up By: Hairy (NT) - Monday, Mar 17, 2014 at 18:10

Monday, Mar 17, 2014 at 18:10
I wouldn't call 100,000km out of a 3.0lt before they explode good value.....would you? LOL
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Follow Up By: Nutta - Monday, Mar 17, 2014 at 21:59

Monday, Mar 17, 2014 at 21:59
Mine went 250k, whats the problem?
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Follow Up By: Hairy (NT) - Monday, Mar 17, 2014 at 23:04

Monday, Mar 17, 2014 at 23:04
I hope it didn't explode at that and even if it did, your one of the lucky ones!
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Reply By: pmk03 - Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 18:21

Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 18:21
Why would I want to be a paid member on this site when the "members" give answers like that?
PS. I don't own a nissan. Just don't understant this waste of space & time
Rant over ....
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Follow Up By: Member - John - Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 18:37

Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 18:37
get a life.................................
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Follow Up By: Hairy (NT) - Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 19:22

Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 19:22
How dare anyone try and add a bit of humour!!!!
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Follow Up By: Member - PJR (NSW) - Monday, Mar 17, 2014 at 22:06

Monday, Mar 17, 2014 at 22:06
We do enjoy a quip at each other now and then. Makes us human.

Haven't yet started.

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Reply By: johno59 - Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 18:48

Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 18:48
Sorry I can,t help you Munji,wish I could. Ross and John, the poor guy asks a perfectly legitimate question and gets no help at all from you 2 Turkey's!!! What a waste of time!
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Follow Up By: Member - John - Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 18:58

Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 18:58
get a life also, can't people recognise sarcasm, wow what have we turned into..................
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Follow Up By: Skulldug - Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 19:07

Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 19:07
John,

It's turned into a forum that's full of old farts who argue about everything.
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Follow Up By: Hairy (NT) - Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 19:25

Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 19:25
Whats wrong with the answers?
Ross obviously has the opinion that manuals don't rate a mention and Johns comment is pretty close to the truth.....light up......Geeeeez
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Follow Up By: Member - Rosss - Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 19:31

Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 19:31
If I have to spell it out I will, Auto is the only way to go. now for the turkey bit, GOBBLE GOBBLE GOBBLE. Can you understand now johno 59?
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Follow Up By: ModSquad - Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 20:11

Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 20:11
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 23:37

Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 23:37
Thank you!
By the way, I have never owned an auto.
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Reply By: Skulldug - Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 19:12

Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 19:12
John,

I'm not a Nissan owner but can say that an auto box is better in sand because you don't loose momentum after changing down a gear.

Skull
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Reply By: Hairy (NT) - Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 19:20

Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 19:20
Gday,
Im not a Nissan or an Auto owner but...........
Although I prefer manuals the autos these days are probably better in a lot of circumstances as Skulldug has pointed out.
In saying that a mate of mine had an auto 3.0lt Nissan and said he would never buy another auto unless it had a bigger motor than the 3.0lt........
I assume you know the history of the 3.0lts?

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Boof, Bairnsdale. - Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 19:41

Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 19:41
Gidday John,
I am on my second patrol auto and both have been fantastic vehicles.I will never buy another manual as these two have done all that I want.
cheers, Boof.
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Reply By: Sam F - Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 19:40

Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 19:40
Now I'm having fun !!!!
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Reply By: Mick O - Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 19:50

Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 19:50
I've been a Nissan 3lt owner and suffered every single mechanical indignity that could be thrust upon me. While I now drive a Toyota, I still love that car. If it hadn't been for the need to carry heavier and heavier loads to accommodate the remote trips I do, I'd still be driving it.

From my experience (mine was manual but I've driven the auto's in 4x4 situations), I'd go the auto for your everyday 4x4 through to what I do. If I was towing a heavy van around the highways consistently, I'd go a manual.

Given a choice, and not knowing just what age the vehicle is you intend buying, if an opportunity to but the 4.2 presents, take it. The 4.2 provides one of the most capable off road vehicles available. The auto will only enhance that.

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Reply By: Member - Peter G20 - Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 20:27

Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 20:27
Hi Munji
I have 98 patrol Manuel and I love to drive the vehicle!
If you are contending with heavy city traffic the the auto is definitely better.
After all most 4 WDs spend most of their time in the cities/towns.
The negative I have about autos is when driving I n the scorching tempetures of our deserts and the auto heats up your cooling circuit adding extra pressure on it.
Cheers
Pete
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Follow Up By: Steve M1 (NSW) - Monday, Mar 17, 2014 at 19:40

Monday, Mar 17, 2014 at 19:40
is your Manuel the Spanish version then?

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Follow Up By: Member - Peter G20 - Monday, Mar 17, 2014 at 20:37

Monday, Mar 17, 2014 at 20:37
LOl good one!
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Reply By: AdrianLR (VIC) - Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 20:31

Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 20:31
I have a 2010 3L auto. Have driven the manual version and it had two characteristics I found unpleasant - higher revs at highway speed and because of the lowish torque of the engine, lots of gear changes around town. The Auto loses out in heavy towing and downhill braking. As our camper is about 1700kg fully loaded and we don't do much extreme off road anymore, neither is an issue.

The auto's very basic compared with modern boxes but gets the job done..

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Reply By: Member - Captain (WA) - Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 20:39

Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 20:39
I used to have a GU 3L manual and my BIL had the GU 3L auto. We camped together often and there was always a noticeable difference in performance and fuel economy. Most times the difference wasn't that big, but once on sand the auto would really struggle in the soft stuff.

While one could live with either, I personally wouldn't want an auto with a 3L engine, simply not enough power in the soft sand - but is OK in most other areas.

After having a 200 TTD auto for some time now, would definitely prefer an auto over a manual, BUT only if there was enough power to drive the auto and IMHO the GU 3L comes up a bit short occasionally when behind an auto.

Cheers

Captain
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Reply By: steved58 - Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 22:28

Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 22:28
Also note the auto is only good for 2500kgs towing while the manual is 3300kgs towing thats why I now have a 100 series td auto wanted an auto but the van is 2600kgs

Cheers steve
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Reply By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 22:29

Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 22:29
Autos are great until you fry it towing or up to the axles in sand! A manual clutch and fitting could be as low as $1200 but an auto rebuild could be $10,000 plus depending on the vehicle. Some new autos are 8 speed so they won't be cheap to fix! Michael
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Reply By: Motherhen - Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 23:00

Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 23:00
It depends on your plans and where you will go with the Patrol Munji. I love our auto, and it has proved good for towing a heavy caravan, and copes well in city traffic in contrast to other four wheel drives we have had. We have not done any hard core four wheel driving with it. Modern autos are great, but not so good if the battery goes flat, as we can't roll start it. I can't compare fuel consumption to a manual Patrol.

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Follow Up By: nickoff - Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 23:53

Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 23:53
Flat battery buggers up both autos & manuals nowadays. If you aint got juice for the CPU, push starting a manual don't work either anymore.

Autos easier in traffic, and many 4x4 situations. Manual for open road towing and engine braking.

I think the autos are a bit thirstier too, but not by much. Just control the weight of the right boot a bit.
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 23:57

Sunday, Mar 16, 2014 at 23:57
These days autos have manual override for engine braking and seem to work just as well as a manual doing this.

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Follow Up By: get outmore - Monday, Mar 17, 2014 at 12:08

Monday, Mar 17, 2014 at 12:08
MH im a manual man but--- not sure if you tried the manual. I was driving an f350 6 speed manual for work which i would assume is simular to your eFey , even driving it around kal got very old very quicklly . The amount of effort needed to use the clutch was extroidinary
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Monday, Mar 17, 2014 at 12:55

Monday, Mar 17, 2014 at 12:55
Hi get outmore

As farmers, we always favoured manuals as they were easier to get ourselves going again, but my husband now needs auto for long trips so we got the 3 litre auto as it was the only diesel auto we could find at the time. Our F250 is auto. I'm pleased I don't have to stretch down from the thick pillow to press a difficult clutch. I have trouble driving tractors. Son had a manual Hilux once and bush driver me had to drive him to RPH for monthly visits for about a year; crawling peak hour traffic down Shepperton Road, when I had to slide down to reach the clutch and slide up to see over the dashboard :O. Love autos in traffic like that.

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Follow Up By: get outmore - Monday, Mar 17, 2014 at 13:17

Monday, Mar 17, 2014 at 13:17
id never felt anything like the clutch in the F350 - almost needed to use both feet :)
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Reply By: cliff p - Monday, Mar 17, 2014 at 00:16

Monday, Mar 17, 2014 at 00:16
its just up to the individual. There is no one better than the other> They both have their for and against. I don't know why some people HAVE to know it all. If you are a realist you sit down weigh it all up and come up with what suits you. They will both do the job, it might come down to your driving skills as well. Maybe the auto lovers only ever learnt in an auto and have never driven a manual .( Maybe they still wet the bed) Anyway there is bugger all difference, explain to me why the auto is so much better? I drive an auto semi and love it as I'm older and lazier but in hilly terrain id prefer the manual as it gives you more control. But thats just me.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Monday, Mar 17, 2014 at 08:21

Monday, Mar 17, 2014 at 08:21
To me, it's a bit like asking should I buy a white one or a red one!

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Reply By: SDG - Monday, Mar 17, 2014 at 10:44

Monday, Mar 17, 2014 at 10:44
Having a muscle wasting disease in my left leg, I find the manual helps to exercise what muscle I have left. The heavier the clutch, the better. Can't walk much, but able to push in the clutch.
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Follow Up By: cliff p - Monday, Mar 17, 2014 at 12:08

Monday, Mar 17, 2014 at 12:08
Thats why i made a bit of a joke about it , it really does just come down to the individual. I read a post on the subject once and the fella did the for & against on both. He summed it up brilliantly and as it turned out he said that it really did just come down to the individual. I live in the country and drive my manual Navara everywhere around here but when it comes to city driving i take our auto commodore . Horses for courses.
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Reply By: jacent - Monday, Mar 17, 2014 at 13:42

Monday, Mar 17, 2014 at 13:42
Nissan must be due to bring out a v8diesel or turbo 6 wishful thinking? Clearly the 3ltr has done its dash
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Reply By: coonick - Monday, Mar 17, 2014 at 14:46

Monday, Mar 17, 2014 at 14:46
I would go the manual but I am bias. Autos have become popular because their owners have NO skill in driving a manual off road. Obviously don't know how to coordinate the clutch and gear stick.
Personally I will NEVER EVER own an auto 4wd.
If you want an auto go for it ...its your money.
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Follow Up By: Hairy (NT) - Monday, Mar 17, 2014 at 18:15

Monday, Mar 17, 2014 at 18:15
Hahahaha.......And I suppose you still try to by vehicles with crank handles hey? LOL
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Reply By: cookie1 - Monday, Mar 17, 2014 at 17:22

Monday, Mar 17, 2014 at 17:22
I had 2 x 3L Patrols and many preceding Patrols, all manual, and found that the Manuals with the Dual Mass Flywheels had an inherent problem. The last one from new only lasted 29,000km before it needed changing, and was not covered by warranty, as I didn't know how to drive a manual, their words.

Since found out they are designed to "slip" in order to make the ride more comfortable and reduce vibration. I would go the automatic or budget to change the clutch asap with a heavy duty with solid flywheel - costs about $3K.

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Reply By: Member - PJR (NSW) - Monday, Mar 17, 2014 at 22:18

Monday, Mar 17, 2014 at 22:18
Hi Munji

There are two excellent reasons to get an automatic for both the high country and the deserts. The smooth very easily controlled starting and the smooth no traction breaking gear changes. Makes it so easy to crawl over a rock and change gears on sand.

And as a few others have also said. Try and get a 4.2TD. Not for speed and charging through hazards but just to offset the weights that we all seem to accumulate. GVM = What's that!

Phil

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