100 Series jerking motion
Submitted: Friday, Mar 28, 2014 at 21:57
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Kimbos
Hi all, can anyone suggest what might be the problem. Usually while accelerator is at coasting or slight acceleration in any gear this happens, if you put your foot down more it usually goes away. It’s a lot like being in the wrong gear but you are not. I’m thinking engine mount or transmission mount.
A Mazda tech was telling me they put a lift kit on a BT50 and it did the same thing, being the tail shaft loading up the universal joint because it wasn’t In line with the gearbox anymore.
What do you think???
Reply By: Ross M - Saturday, Mar 29, 2014 at 00:02
Saturday, Mar 29, 2014 at 00:02
Kimbos
Most/nearly all lift kits in Mazdas make them shudder and vibe if there is no attention paid to the resulting alteration in tailshaft uni drive angles. Nor revelation from the tech there.
Seeing you have mentioned lifted vehicles, is yours lifted? If so how much and did the fitters ATTEND to the uni angles or ignore them as is usually done.
The tailshaft doesn't load up the uni joints but does make then try and oscillate radially as they spin. That is felt as a shuddddder or a vibe or both.
If you can accelerate and power away it possibly isn't a fuel filter issue as more power requires more fuel, and a blocked filter can't supply it.
The frequency of the jerking might be a key if you can ID it a little more. ie always locked to road speed?
Cheers
Ross M
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Follow Up By: get outmore - Saturday, Mar 29, 2014 at 00:10
Saturday, Mar 29, 2014 at 00:10
Ive just been going through this exact thing with my troopy after some bad fuel.
Symptoms are exactly the same. But go away after changing the primary filter.
When it was at its worst it was also breaking down at high revs.
Besides that yes you can power up and symptoms go away
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Follow Up By: Kimbos - Saturday, Mar 29, 2014 at 01:04
Saturday, Mar 29, 2014 at 01:04
Thanks
Ross, Its not really a shudder as such, its more like a broken engine mount, in which the whole engine would
rock back n
forth until it picks up speed. But it not that. It only really happens when you apply a little acceleration while cruising along. Not under load. Put your foot into her and it doesn't do it. However you will always get to a point where you coast along and give little acceleration, back off, little acceleration, and that's when it does it.
Cheers mate.
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Follow Up By: Ross M - Saturday, Mar 29, 2014 at 09:37
Saturday, Mar 29, 2014 at 09:37
Because of it happening like that it is more like what gom has mentioned.
Won't be driveline then and as he said more likely in the fuel area.
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Follow Up By: get outmore - Saturday, Mar 29, 2014 at 10:47
Saturday, Mar 29, 2014 at 10:47
thats just my experience - im assuming youve got a 1hz?
if so nothing to lose and changing the fuel filter is a 5 minute job.
easiest way to do it is to take out the 2 bolts holding the filter assembly and invert the filter so it sticks up and bolt it back
then whisk it off and the new one on - you may need a filter wrench
then put the filter assembley back the rigght way and reatach the hoses and prime it
it may muck around a bit after restarting and if its too rough them prime it some more but it should quickly smooth out
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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Monday, Mar 31, 2014 at 09:34
Monday, Mar 31, 2014 at 09:34
We had symptom similar to this in a '90 model 80 series, with 1HD-T motor.
Had injector pump rebuilt, and it was a rocket after that!
Bob.
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