Should I do the break pads
Submitted: Monday, Mar 31, 2014 at 22:05
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Hello everyone. My mechanic tells me the xtrail I have will need new brake pads in 5000kms. Is there any danger in towing a van for another 5000kms or should I have them done now thanks johno
Reply By: SDG - Monday, Mar 31, 2014 at 23:52
Monday, Mar 31, 2014 at 23:52
Recently went to
Kangaroo Island with a few friends. One of them had a full service done, and was told that the pads will need replacing in about the five thousand km mark. Mechanic said to save money for trip, and replace when she gets back.
700 odd km later, the brakes started squealing. As I was not there at the time, met up on island, nothing I could do about it. I got them changed for her on the island.
Not the first time mechanic has done similar. I told her to change mechanics.
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Reply By: Member - PJR (NSW) - Tuesday, Apr 01, 2014 at 09:22
Tuesday, Apr 01, 2014 at 09:22
Yes. Do them.
A few years back we went for what we thought would be a simple drive from
Sydney to Lightiing Ridge and back. Straight up and back. Simple.
We got to
the Ridge and when finished seeing what we wanted to see, we still had heaps of time left. So we changed our mind. We continued north to
Roma, swung west and came
home the "long" way via
Coober Pedy.
What if you change your mind like us. What if you would like to just drop in at Woollamakanka. You really can't if the pads are worn.
Phil
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Reply By: Aussi Traveller - Tuesday, Apr 01, 2014 at 12:22
Tuesday, Apr 01, 2014 at 12:22
"Is there any danger in towing a van for another 5000kms or should I have them done now thanks johno"
I guess you will find out when you put your foot on the brake and nothing happens, the thing is the mechanic had the wheels off so half the job was already done, my mechanic would have just done them and let me know, had he not I would look for a new mechanic.
Phil.
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Reply By: Bazooka - Tuesday, Apr 01, 2014 at 15:27
Tuesday, Apr 01, 2014 at 15:27
Just out of interest - when I had the Jack's pads replaced I got quotes from two
places (one a
well-known servicing franchise, the other a dedicated brake place - FAR cheaper) and neither would entertain replacement without rotor machining. The rotors were unmarked but I think they said something along the lines of no guarantees if not machined.
I didn't mind as the brake specialist machined them 'in situ' saving many $$$, and it was the first replacement at 200k+ km iirc. Just wanted to know if this is "normal" practice?
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Follow Up By: Member - Fab72 (Paradise SA) - Tuesday, Apr 01, 2014 at 20:22
Tuesday, Apr 01, 2014 at 20:22
Bazooka,
There's two trains of thought on this. Me personally don't machine my disc rotors upon pad replacement. I give them a bit of a de-glaze with some emery paper and that's all.
However, when I was with a big brand dealer, it was custom to upsell a machine with every pad replacement. Was it necessary? I didn't think so. Did it generate more business? Of course. Then before you know it, the discs are undersized and need replacement.
Having said that, I wouldn't dream of doing a clutch without machining the flywheel and I guess the basic principles are the same with a clutch as they are with brakes. The only difference is that discs are easier to have a second crack at if they are found to need additional work, whereas pulling out a gearbox just to machine a flywheel is a real PITA.
In my opinion....if the discs don't have excessive runout (causing shudder under braking), haven't been cooked and aren't under sized, then a simple de-glaze is all they need.
Fab.
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Follow Up By: Bazooka - Tuesday, Apr 01, 2014 at 20:41
Tuesday, Apr 01, 2014 at 20:41
Thanks Fab. Looking at the rotors before and after I think they did the minimum required. Anyway it was a good job at a good price (with only one small complication which owners of old Jacks will know about), and you can't be unhappy about that.
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Reply By: Member - Fab72 (Paradise SA) - Tuesday, Apr 01, 2014 at 20:13
Tuesday, Apr 01, 2014 at 20:13
REPLACE THEM NOW! I say.
It's relatively cheap compared to the inconvenience of having to do it on the road and at
places that might not stock the pads you need.
You fail to mention what sort of
places you plan to visit. Sand and mud will reduce your pad life dramatically, so will hilly terrain especially when towing a van.
Also...two other things to consider.
1. Thinner pads are less able to dissipate heat as
well so will overheat easier.
2. Thin pads mean that your caliper pistons are travelling in an area or the caliper body that is at the extreme limits. This is generally where surface rust and gunk accumulates. It doesn't take much foreign material to upset the piston seal and create a fluid leak and loss of braking performance.
Mate.... your car and van are pretty big investments. Are they worth risking, plus your own personal safety and peace of mind for the sake of $100 dollars?
Just do it and be done with it.
Fab.
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