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What is it that when you become a grey nomad you become illiterate and get a fluffy dog that does not shut up.Most parks,reserves,caravan parks and beaches all have signs saying that dogs must be on leads at all times.Which i do at all times.A lot of grey nomads either can not read or feel it does not apply to there pest.I have had a few to many run ins with people when there fluffy yap yap dog comes across to mine and goes him.I have got to the stage now where i am very blunt with them on what the out come will be.I would never allow Gunny to hurt another animal but i really would wish they would put there pests on leads.
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Reply By: pop2jocem - Tuesday, Apr 01, 2014 at 21:17

Tuesday, Apr 01, 2014 at 21:17
C'mon Stuart, you could be missing out on a good protein rich food source for your four legged mate.

(;-))

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Reply By: Slow one - Tuesday, Apr 01, 2014 at 21:32

Tuesday, Apr 01, 2014 at 21:32
Stuart,
you maybe able to make some dollars on the side. Lay bets on how long it would take for your lap dog to eat the fluffy rat.

Red dog the movie comes to mind.
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Reply By: Turbo 1 - Tuesday, Apr 01, 2014 at 21:37

Tuesday, Apr 01, 2014 at 21:37
I suppose it's about the same time as you when you forget to leave spaces after a full stop.
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Reply By: Ross M - Tuesday, Apr 01, 2014 at 21:39

Tuesday, Apr 01, 2014 at 21:39
Stuart.
When the Grey ones have the dog, they probably don't ever look up to read the sign or the dog will trip them and then they do a hip or cranium injury.
So : What sign? The age of entitlement means they don't have to comply because.

It is no good if Gunny eats their dog, think of the fur balls he will cough up.
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Reply By: John and Regina M - Tuesday, Apr 01, 2014 at 21:52

Tuesday, Apr 01, 2014 at 21:52
Kick them.
Hard.

And if they crap anywhere near where you are sitting/camping/walking/lying down, and the owners don't clean it up, then it's game on for cleaning their windscreen with it.
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Follow Up By: TTTSA - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 08:05

Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 08:05
You're an IDIOT! Kick the owner if anything you gutless slipper dog kicker.
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Follow Up By: Penchy - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 08:15

Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 08:15
Rubbish! It's the owners responsibillity to look after the dog. I numerous times booted dogs that used to go mine when I took him for walks - on a leash.

Simple answer, put the little maltese fluff ball on a leash or watch it get booted across the road.
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Follow Up By: BunderDog - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 09:18

Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 09:18
A dog kicker ranks about the same on the scale as a child molester in my book.
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Follow Up By: TTTSA - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 09:34

Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 09:34
Penchy, that is what I was saying. Kick the owner, it is their responsibility to control their dog. The dog doesn't know any better.
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Follow Up By: Penchy - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 10:01

Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 10:01
BunderDog - Oh my god I've heard it all now! You put humans that molest kids for their own sexual gratification in the same boat as people that kick un-restrained dogs? I think you are a little screwed up in the head.

TTTSA - If I kick the owner I'll put their hip out/break their leg, get charged with assault occassioning grevious bodily harm and have to pay their medical bills. I kick an un-restrained dog I am acting in self defence. The dog and the owner will learn something from this (hopefully).

Seriously, how hard is it to put a lead on your dog and keep it under control?

I will assume you both have fluffy nuisance dogs that sit on couches, yap at visitors through the screen doors and sleep on your bed.
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Follow Up By: Alan S (WA) - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 10:18

Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 10:18
Penchy

I gather there is no differentiation between that little fluffy dog and the big rotty, you would kick either. Brave man I say.

If you worried about legal ramifications i would suggest you think again. You certainly may avoid criminal charges, but you would open youself up to Civil. Owners seeking compensation for suffering incurred in seeing their pet assaulted. Whole different ball game, lower level of proof required.
And as any one who has been through that process will tell you, the outcome is often dependant on how deep your pockets are, not justice or facts.

If in self defence fine do it, but to state you would just do it and claim self defence!!

How funny would it look big brave man kicking poor little mummys little fluffy defenceless dog.

You may be in the right, but it doesn't make it right.

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Follow Up By: Shaker - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 10:29

Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 10:29
This forum is becoming more & more unpleasant!
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Follow Up By: Member - Noldi (WA) - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 11:10

Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 11:10
Shaker, smell the roses, don't worry about the tossers they soon drift away
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Follow Up By: TTTSA - Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 10:53

Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 10:53
I'm not and never have/will be a dog owner Penchy. Assume what you will.
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Follow Up By: Dennis Ellery - Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 14:09

Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 14:09
The more I get to know people (especially those cowards who would kick a defenceless animal) – the more I like dogs.
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Follow Up By: Penchy - Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 14:33

Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 14:33
Apologies TTSA - I assume too much.

Oh god we're like sheep now, where one walks the rest follow. Read all the comments on this post and you will find I am not the only person who feels this way about unrestrained dogs, but because I am the most confident in expressing my actions I am labelled a tosser and a coward?
If a dog came running up to me and my son and latched onto his arm, if I did nothing to prevent that would that make me a bad parent? But if I kick that dog am I still these labels? Stuff it, I'll wear that label so just remember to keep an eye on your dog.

Good job repeating Axel's comment below Dennis. It sounded much better coming from you the second time around.

Also thanks MODS for the splendid job you do on the personal attacks rule.
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Reply By: Alan S (WA) - Tuesday, Apr 01, 2014 at 22:10

Tuesday, Apr 01, 2014 at 22:10
The problem is not just caused by grey gonads, just as many dogs off leash and owned by young people, mum &dads and others.
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Reply By: Steve M1 (NSW) - Tuesday, Apr 01, 2014 at 22:16

Tuesday, Apr 01, 2014 at 22:16
Yes Stuart, it is annoying when owners don't abide by the rules and then complain when they come up against "no pets allowed". the same ones who look in the opposite direction whilst pooch deposits a brown one.

One particular breed are notorious for the yapping but I'll leave that one there.
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Reply By: The Bantam - Tuesday, Apr 01, 2014 at 22:44

Tuesday, Apr 01, 2014 at 22:44
People, just don't suddenly develop liking for fluffy yap yap dogs.

The question is why do people who own fluffy yap yap dogs become grey nomads, then think they can let their ill disciplined mut run riot in public places like it has always done at home.

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Reply By: Dennis Ellery - Tuesday, Apr 01, 2014 at 23:32

Tuesday, Apr 01, 2014 at 23:32
When we did our first loop around Australia, my wife Pat, made it clear that the old Chihuahua was not negotiable.
What would you do? - Unhappy wife unhappy life.

We packed the dog on board and travelled from Perth across the top to Cairns, where we planned to leave the caravan, while we drove the Troopy to the top of Cape York.

I had convinced Pat to leave Zoee in a kennel in Cairns which had come well recommended.
We inspected the place, a cold grey concrete and steel meshed prison camp for dogs.
All through the inspection Pat kept a stiff upper lip and discussed the arrangements with the commandant, regarding bedding, food and cleanliness, without a waver.

But as I was about to sign Zoee in - Pat broke down in tears and couldn’t go through with it. She said later if she had done so and Zoee had fretted away and died there, whilst we were away, she would never have forgiven herself.

We were just getting ready to leave Cairns when Zoee fell 500mm down the steps of the Caravan, strained her shoulder and started to limp badly. (This may not seem far but it’s a big fall for an arthritic old Chihuahua) - This put Pat into a spin and we had to delay a day to get her to the Vet. In addition to painkillers and joint medication, the Vet recommended we treat her for Bandicoot Ticks – This is a particularly toxic tick native to Queensland which doesn’t hurt the Bandicoot but kills introduced animals like cattle, horses, dogs etc.

Now short $250 in Vet bills, and a day late, we left the caravan in Cairns and headed north for The Cape. With Zoee jammed between the Engel fridge and Pat’s head rest; we were packed to gunnels with spare tyres, a tent, bedding, 10 kilos of spuds, boxes of tinned food, 5 blocks of beer, and various wines for Pat.

To cut a long story short – after arriving at Seisia we went to the local store for provisions. After we came out of the shop there was an excited mob of local aboriginal kids looking at Zoee through the Troopy’s window – they don’t see many long haired Chihuahuas up there, mainly pigdogs and mongrels. I told them that I would sell her for a $1 and one little guy’s face lit up like a beacon and he dived into his pocket for the dollar, until Pat scowled “don’t be terrible - stop teasing them”.

A Chihuahua would have to be one the stupidest animals on earth.
They have a death wish and they will challenge any other dog whether they are Pit Bulls, Rottweilers whatever, but Zoee survived the trip back to Perth and clocked up over 20,000 ks.

The secrete to happy caravanning is to keep the boss happy and if she wants to travel with an oversized rat - so be it.
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Follow Up By: Mark T6 - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 16:47

Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 16:47
That Dennis is nothing but pure entertainment, I'll get back up of the floor now!!
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Follow Up By: Kilcowera Station Stay - Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 07:31

Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 07:31
A nice story Dennis, til you get to the end and call Zoee ( with 2 ee's!! ), a rat. You would know what a little person she was! Cheers Toni :)
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Follow Up By: Dennis Ellery - Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 12:08

Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 12:08
You’re on to me Toni
She was a delightful little person with the heart of a lion.
The more I get to know people (especially those cowards who would kick a defenceless animal) – the more I like dogs.
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Reply By: Member - Frank P (NSW) - Tuesday, Apr 01, 2014 at 23:39

Tuesday, Apr 01, 2014 at 23:39
People next door had a pair of yappy, crappy, stupid mini-mutts. They got out one day, bailed up and mauled a cat.

The cat was rescued and turned out to be a pedigreed, prize-winning Burmese. (Don't ask why it was out on the street, it wasn't from our neighbourhood but was chipped and the owner found.)

Vets bill for the cat was $5000, had to be paid by the dog owners.

No more dogs next door now, and the cat has never been seen again.

I love a happy ending :-)

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Follow Up By: Mark T6 - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 16:48

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And so is that, still bleep myself laughing
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Reply By: Aussi Traveller - Tuesday, Apr 01, 2014 at 23:58

Tuesday, Apr 01, 2014 at 23:58
After reading all the comments above, I get the feeling that you people really think your bleep doesn't stink, don't you.

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Follow Up By: Member -Pinko (NSW) - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 08:05

Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 08:05
And the dogs make better mates than those people to.
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Follow Up By: Axle - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 11:21

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The more people I meet, the more I like my animals!.
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Reply By: Member - Scott M (NSW) - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 01:52

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Follow Up By: Member - Scott M (NSW) - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 12:25

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This post has been read by the moderation team and has been moderated due to a breach of The Foul Language Rule .

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Follow Up By: Kilcowera Station Stay - Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 09:49

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Love this little cartoon!
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Follow Up By: ModSquad - Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 20:00

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Sorry Scott, but you cant use the F-Word, or even insinuate it.
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Follow Up By: Member - Scott M (NSW) - Friday, Apr 04, 2014 at 11:03

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Fair enuf - bet you laughed though
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Reply By: BunderDog - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 07:52

Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 07:52
Most responsible dog owners are considerate of their neighbours, keep their dogs quiet and pick up their poop.

A recent camping trip revealed that some nearby campers didn't have a clue about picking up their own poop, didn't care about noisy generators, had drunken parties late into the night, let their kids run unsupervised through the campground along with the constant foul language we left after one night.

And by the way they were all driving 4WD's one with a prominent "ExplorOz" sticker across the windscreen.
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Reply By: Member - PJR (NSW) - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 08:40

Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 08:40
Going for a walk one morning and this bloke coming the other way with a dog. The dog highlights it towards me. I didn't know if it was going to bite or lick. He is calling it back. But of course it doesn't listen. I ggnore the dog and the bloke has a go at me/ "He was only being friendly!!". I just ignore him as well.

Then we see on the TV news that a woman who was attacked by two dogs "off the leash" in exactly the same situation. So what do you do. You tell me. Ignore them or get your face all chewed up like her's.

And people wonder why we are called "dog haters". We aren't. We just can't afford plastic surgery.

Just keep your dogs on the leash PLEASE!!!

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Reply By: KevinE - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 08:50

Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 08:50
A very polarising subject it seems!

We had always owned dogs, but no longer have any after the last 2 grew old & left us (broken hearted!) - simply because we travel. Although my wife would desperately like another one.

During a lifetime of dog ownership, we've had every breed of dog known to man rushing up & menacing my dogs who were on a lead & I reckon no age group has a monopoly on being poor dog owners.

I think it's just that some people who have a dog are nitwits who evolve into older nitwits who hit the road with a dog!

That's just my take on it! ;)

Those young people who are self absorbed & bad mannered will eventually become old people who are just as bad!

A "grey nomad" parked next to us at Lakeside CP in Broken Hill last Oct washed his dishes in a bowl & then threw his dirty dishwater across the ground in front of the door to our tent (copping a very swift & fiery response from yours truly!). I guarantee that this guy didn't evolve into a twit when he grew grey hair, he was born an idiot!

No age group has a monopoly on manners, or stupidity!
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Reply By: Grumblebum and the Dragon - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 09:37

Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 09:37
I agree with Phil and Pinko. Reading some of these ill mannered posts it seems to me there are a lot of bitter and twisted dog haters out there. It's not the dogs fault if they have been inadequately trained by lazy uncaring owners.

Humans are they problem as seen in some of these posts. I am not a dog owner but I love all.

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Reply By: brushmarx - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 09:49

Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 09:49
Irrespective of the pro's and con's of dog ownership and the ability to read as you age, I find it pretty strange that moderators lock threads for any reason that can be thought up yet let this one flow after some people think violence to animals is a good thing.
Either way, the type of person who advocates physical harm to an animal because its owner takes what is considered to be insufficient care, is a gutless bastard (in my opinion)
Go figure.
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Follow Up By: TTTSA - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 15:03

Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 15:03
Exactly right, glad someone could put that up without it being deleted.

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Reply By: cookie1 - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 10:10

Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 10:10
I have had many dogs, one of which a Golden Retriver that was trained up to Obedience CD Class, I could walk him off-leash and he was very much under control but he never left my side or if I allowed him to would go "free" but would always came back under command or sit / stand / stay etc.

It isn't the dogs but the owners that I feel are the issue that don't train their dogs, just because you know their temperment it doesn't mean a stranger does or their dog does and an attack from either side can result.

So far a the droppings go, I find it amazing that owners feel that they are not responsible for their dogs, at Kingston-On-Murray CP, on the only patch of grassed area near the water, I had to pick up others dogs poo and put it no more than 10M into the rather open dry field, pet friendly atm but for how long until people either complain or just don't go back as a result of them or their kids falling in it.

just my 2c

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Reply By: Grizzle - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 10:17

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Follow Up By: Member - Noldi (WA) - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 11:25

Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 11:25
Good one Grizzle, I think very applicable to a lot of the heros on here
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Reply By: Member Andys Adventures - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 10:21

Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 10:21
Twice in my life I have been attacked but unleashed dogs, One a Shepard and the other a lap dog. The Shepard caused several puncture wounds, but no need for a hospital. The Yap yap bite my leg causing a trip to hospital needing stiches. So any dog now that comes near me off a lead will have it's head stomped on with no regrets and for my own safety. Then I will start on the owner. Any dog weather friendly or not is a wild animal and can cause injury. I am sorry if this offends anyone but after twice bitten third time fight back.
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Follow Up By: Steve D1 - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 14:24

Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 14:24
Yes, I'm with you Andy. Would never hurt an animal, with out good cause, but have been in the situation like you, and its self preservation first, for me AND MY dog.
in saying that, I've also had to give one of my dogs a heavy handed approach, after she was attacked, while on lead. ( my mutt would have ripped it to shreds ) Generally it will always be other dog first, closely followed be the owner, if they can be found.

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Reply By: Member - TowBall - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 12:09

Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 12:09
Hi Explorers, I once saw a little fluffy dog kill a rotty, the fluffy dog got stuck in its throat......... lol lol
Time for a coffee, people. There is plenty of room in the sand pit for all.
Dogs, cats & generators - you either love them or hate em. I'm not a "rule" person but I do Love people who obey them....
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Follow Up By: Mark T6 - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 16:51

Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 16:51
This is just an hilarious subject, so pleased I clicked on!!
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Reply By: Gronk - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 12:42

Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 12:42
From what I read....and most would agree....dogs have no place being near other people unless they are on a leash..

I have seen a young girl get nipped on the face by a "friendly" dog, whose owner said 10 secs before that yes she could pat it..." it won't hurt you ".....

Lucky she didn't need to go to hospital....
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Reply By: Member - Fab72 (Paradise SA) - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 14:06

Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 14:06
I had to laugh Stuart and Gunny. My in-laws have just entered the grey nomad scene with their 18 foot A-van and Colorado duel cab. They have 2 yappers that they take everywhere. It's never their dog's fault either when they're yapping...it's always someone elses...apparently.

Me.... I have a dingo. Doesn't even bark so that does me just fine.

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Follow Up By: Member - Scott M (NSW) - Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 14:50

Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 14:50
Reminds me of a couple of GN's in a Cooktown caravan park who had two little yappy dogs in one of those dog cage / fence areas next to their caravan. Only trouble was they were parked next to a path to the shower block - so every time someone walked past (which was often) these 2 dogs would go off their tree .... you could tell it was cheesing off everyone, but they were oblivious to it all .....
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Reply By: jacent - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 14:36

Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 14:36
My dog is a male ridgeback x the only time he is off the lead is in our yard, we always walk him on the lead and when at a caravan park/ camping is tied up within the boundary of our site and we never leave him in attended, however it pisses me off when we are doing the right thing and some idiot walks past with their dog off lead and says its ok he is friendly. How do they know my dog isn't viscious? He isn't but loves a scrap if his personal space is invaded or he feels he needs to protect us. On another note we were at a caravan park in esperence and a 2-3yr old kid ran flat out at my dog while he was eating a bone tied up on out site yelling puppy puppy, she grabbed him around the neck kissing and patting him, our dog just sat and took it, the mother rushed over frantic but relieved! We were sitting outside with him, prob only was a second or two before we realized but all ended well, the mother saying how fascinated her kid was with dogs at the moment
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Reply By: Member - evaredy - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 17:27

Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 17:27
Just like anything in life, you get those that care about others and those that don't and think the whole word owes them a favor.

No matter what the breed it is not the dog's fault, it's the idiot owner. I have had dogs most of my life, but they are obedience trained. This is one thing I feel should be mandatory for dog ownership.
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Follow Up By: Mogul - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 17:50

Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 17:50
Couldn't agree more. It's all about training your dog how to react in different situations.

When we had our previous dog a rotti cross ridgeback she taught to be docile around kids and all the lds in our street would climb all over her and when she enough she just walked away. She was also trained to look after them so would always place herself between them and strangers in a non threatening way, but physically threaten someone she trusted and watch out.

We always travel with our dog (Kellie cross) and she has been properly trained, pick up her business and obey rules on beaches, etc.
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Follow Up By: suparoo49 - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 20:51

Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 20:51
[quote]I have had dogs most of my life, but they are obedience trained. This is one thing I feel should be mandatory for dog ownership.[unquote]

Obedience training should be mandatory for parents too!
Some kids are worse than bloody dogs. :)
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Reply By: Member - Trouper (NSW) - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 18:08

Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 18:08
Seems to me that the idiot dog owners threat their dogs like humans
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Follow Up By: Member - Rosss - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 18:55

Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 18:55
And your problem with that is?
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Follow Up By: Member - Fab72 (Paradise SA) - Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 18:52

Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 18:52
I echo your comment Rosss.
My Dina is part of the family. She goes where we and the kids go and she gets reprimanded just like the kids do if she plays up.
End result..... a loyal companion who'll always meet me at the garage no matter how bad a day she's had. I don't get that treatment from the missus that's for sure.
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Follow Up By: Member - Fab72 (Paradise SA) - Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 18:57

Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 18:57
......and she doesn't snore.
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Reply By: SDG - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 19:06

Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 19:06
I travel around a lot in my chosen sport, as do many others. Many people decide to camp on the grounds, with a few of them having dogs.
One lovely couple one year showed up with two small dogs. They camped away from others, as not everyone likes dogs, had them restrained, and cleaned up after them. Did everything right.
Problem was, little dogs attract kids.
Some kids came over, one thing led to another, and one of them got bit.

All dogs are now banned from all these sporting grounds.
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Follow Up By: Member - Frank P (NSW) - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 19:36

Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 19:36
I'll bet that was lawyers and insurance that did that.

A pox on their houses.
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Follow Up By: Member - Frank P (NSW) - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 19:47

Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 19:47
Actually, just thinking about it, if a dog is in an area where dogs are permitted and the owner takes all the required and reasonable precautions as you described, SDG, and some unrestrained, unsupervised kid comes wandering up and gets nipped, perhaps the dog owner should sue the parents of the kid - a kind of pre-emptive strike.

Perhaps kids should be leashed in areas where dogs are permitted.

Or would that be the tail wagging the dog?


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Reply By: Member - evaredy - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 21:52

Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 21:52
Just something that dog owners may or not know...

You are legally liable if your dog bites someone who is on your property, your front door and a direct path to it is considered public access.

I know this because we are currently going through a dog attack that involved my daughter.
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Reply By: get outmore - Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 05:24

Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 05:24
dogs are like kids

the owners always thing their the greatest so everyones going to love them

the amount of times ive had dogs run up to me and the owners smile at thier cherished one and tell me it wont bite... i dont care just keep your stuff with YOU

i used to like dogs as a kid but ive been atacked by far too many now

side note - no dog will atack front on, if your being atacked never turn around, if theres 2 its a big issue as one will always try and get round behind,

kicking stones off the ground at them works very well and once youve got the dog in front of you- keep it there and chase it , you can usually chase it home where you can give the owner a mouthfull
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Follow Up By: Graeme - Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 06:20

Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 06:20
My wife is now very afraid of unrestrained dogs as a couple of years ago while in Bangkok we were walking down a street and a dog came from nowhere and slashed her leg open. We made it bleed profusely and then went around to the local doctor who cleaned, but not stitched it and started the course of rabies shots. She now has scars on her leg from it, as well as the fact if an unrestrained dog rushes up to her she panics and is CERTAINLY NOT assured by the owner saying it will not bite her.
It is for this reason I do ask all responsible dog owners to keep their dogs under control as she, like many other people are genuinely frightened of unrestrained dogs, including the nippy balls of fluff.
Do not get me started on unrestrained and undisciplined kids, people should, as with dogs, have mandatory obedience training and require a license for them as well.
Well mannered children and dogs are a joy to be around.
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Follow Up By: KevinE - Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 08:42

Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 08:42
"side note - no dog will atack front on, if your being atacked never turn around, if theres 2 its a big issue as one will always try and get round behind,

kicking stones off the ground at them works very well and once youve got the dog in front of you- keep it there and chase it , you can usually chase it home where you can give the owner a mouthfull"

Sorry get outmore, but not so!

We've owned pits that would & could attack front on like a missile if they perceived a threat to us, or our property.

You could hit it, kick it, do what you want to it short of shooting it & it would do no good whatsoever. If it was after you, you would be cactus!

We had them for over 30 years & never had a dog bite anyone who wasn't trying to break in & never had anything stolen with a dog in the yard though lol!

;)
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Reply By: Mark T6 - Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 09:28

Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 09:28
To each their own, I have never had pets, SWMBO hates cats (must say I don't like them much either) and we are never home enough to have a dog.

And having one limits where you can go and what you can do, we travel a lot overseas as well.

And again some of these stories are just hilarious, although not sure the one about the Pitbulls attacking from all directions is funny!!

No thanks, appreciate people love their dogs but not for me!!
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Follow Up By: KevinE - Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 21:39

Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 21:39
You're quite right Mark, it's not funny, but they are what they are!

I've had them since 1979 - I paid $1,500 for my first one when I was earning just $17-18K per year.

I love them - there's no BS with them! They love unconditionally & would lay their life down if their family & friends are threatened, without so much as a whimper! Try finding that in a human being, other than maybe a VC winner.

They have qualities that I am yet to see in a person.

When most dogs fire up you will see them fuzz up along their back & bare their teeth - it's called a threat display. It means "don't mess with me, I'm bad news!" They hope that will do the trick & you will leave them alone. Pits don't do that! They have no fear whatsoever, so why threaten you? They just "do" They don't talk about "doing" if that makes sense? In a complete paradox they are like little babies with their owners & very, very easy to manage.

Ours were our surrogate children. They got babied like you wouldn't believe. But, I'm getting old & a young, fit pit is way too much dog for an old man lol! Having owned pits & being asked to own another breed is sort of like driving a Ferrari all your life & being asked to drive a great wall - so no more dogs for me!

Sadly sometimes complete idiots with very poor character own them as some sort of status symbol & that's where it gets very, very scary!

Like you say, each to their own! It would be a very boring world if we all thought the same way!

:=)
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Follow Up By: Mark T6 - Friday, Apr 04, 2014 at 09:37

Friday, Apr 04, 2014 at 09:37
It sure would Kevin, by the way I have NOTHING against dogs, if they are friendly I don't mind giving them a pat, its just they were never for us.

Before retiring I was a travel agent, travelled a huge amount in the early days (when we got free trips to everywhere....those were the days) and in the last two decades or so specialised in overseas tours (groups), I always took the groups away so in any one year was often away for 2-3 months.

So it was never convenient for us to have pets, so when I say "not for me" its not that I dislike them.....although don't like the angry ones that want to rip your head off.

My sister in law never had children so has three pug dogs (surrogate children really), I don't understand the way she dotes on them, dresses them up, sleeps with them etc etc but as I say to each their own.

But you have to admit some of the above stories are bloody funny!!
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