Mansfield to Omeo

Submitted: Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 18:10
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My brother and I are planning a high country trip this November and thought we would start things off from Mansfield and head to Omeo via bush tracks. We would like to do the "staircase" on Speculation track. Any suggestion from there to Omeo. We will be staying in Omeo and doing day trips out from there. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.
Dave.
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Reply By: oldsalt - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 19:17

Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 19:17
Check out the "Limestone Creek" track via Benambra... it's a good track.
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Follow Up By: Member - David S40 - Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 19:08

Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 19:08
Excellent oldsalt

Will do just that. Would you know how long we would need to give ourselves to comfortably get from Omeo via Limestone Creek to Tom Groggin?

Dave
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Follow Up By: mikehzz - Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 19:40

Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 19:40
I easily drove Tom Groggin to Omeo via Limestone in a day, even stopping to rescue a biker on the track and then waiting for a helicopter. It's better to take longer even though we were only ambling along.
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Follow Up By: Member - David S40 - Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 20:52

Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 20:52
Thanks Mikehzz.
was is a good drive.
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Follow Up By: mikehzz - Friday, Apr 04, 2014 at 08:19

Friday, Apr 04, 2014 at 08:19
It was an excellent drive. You could return from Tom Groggin back to Omeo via Mt Pinnibar. There are lots of steep sections and creek crossings on both tracks. If it rains, things can get very slippery and it's easy to get stuck with no traction trying to go up a steep hill. Don't get caught at Tom Groggin, the river crossing is crescent shaped. If you drive straight across it's too deep. Walk it first.
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Follow Up By: mikehzz - Friday, Apr 04, 2014 at 08:25

Friday, Apr 04, 2014 at 08:25
Here is a good map -

http://www.fwdvictoria.org.au/iconic4wd/downloads/info/info_davies.pdf
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Follow Up By: Member - David S40 - Friday, Apr 04, 2014 at 17:12

Friday, Apr 04, 2014 at 17:12
Great stuff .
just the kind of info I am after.
Thanks mikehzz
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Reply By: Wayne NSW - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 19:46

Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 19:46
Dave,

The "staircase" was graded a few years ago and is properly the smoothest part of the track.

If you are coming from Mansfield head towards Mt Sterling, follow the Circuit Rd to the Monument Tk. That will take you up to Clear Hills and Craigs Hut. From there back down to the Circuit Rd then onto Speculation Tk. You then can follow the track up to Lake Cobbler.

To make things a bit better for you get a hold of "The High Country Atlas & Guide" put out by Hema Maps. From this book you should be able to plot the trip your self and it will also give you an idea of what the tracks are like.

Wayne
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Reply By: Member - PJR (NSW) - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 22:42

Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 22:42
David

There is an excellent track not too far to the west of Dargo, called the Billy Goat Bluff Track. It's an excellent climb from Crooked River up the bluff to Pinnacle East.

From Dargo head down south to locality of Riverford and then turn west onto Wonnangatta Road and follow it until you get to 37.405900S, 147.082130E . You should now be at the start of the track.

It's an absolute view to die for from the Fire Watch tower.

Phil

The track is visible in the distance.


Cresting Billy Goat:


The view down to the start of Billy Goat:
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Follow Up By: Wayne NSW - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 23:03

Wednesday, Apr 02, 2014 at 23:03
Phil,

The last time I was down there Billy Goat Bluff track would have been the worst I have seen it.(Nov 2013)
Unless David has been up it before or has lots of experience I would not recommend that track.
Going up to the trig on Mt Blue Rag would be a better trip.

I will be down there middle of April and will check it out again.


Wayne
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Follow Up By: Member - PJR (NSW) - Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 08:10

Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 08:10
Fair comment Wayne. Those photos were taken in March 2013. There was quite a mixture of cars in the group and no one had any problem. No great rock climbers or Tuff Truck type of cars.

Ours (see photo) is basically standard. Bilstein shocks. No lift and no lockers. No mods to the suspension apart from the shocks. Just touring stuff inside and body protection.

There was some loose rock and stones and a few small rock ledges to get over. Nothing more than a standard reasonably largish 4WD wouldn't handle.

A bloke in a standard looking forestry ute went through before us. We didn't see him again so he either made it or . . . .

Maybe that will still Davids heart and have a go.

I haven' been on Blue Rag. One day maybe but the desert is next. Canning this year.

Phil

PS David I would not recommend any towing on it.
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Follow Up By: Wayne NSW - Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 08:30

Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 08:30
Phil,

Billy Goat Bluff Tk is one of those tracks that can change in a weekend depending on use.
I went up the a few days after a big convey of rock hoping vehicles, sorry no other way to describe them, went through and turned just about every rock on the top end of the track. This made it hard to find a good line.
It is also very hard to find a place to turn around that is big enough or is not on a side slope.

The Vic High Country in a couple of weeks then the CSR in July followed by the Kimberley and the Flinders to finish the winter trips for this year.

Wayne
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Follow Up By: Member - PJR (NSW) - Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 11:48

Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 11:48
PM me to vk1dx@bigpond.net.au re CSR.

Too true. I don't mind changes because of nature and "normal" use but it annoys me when people can't drive properly and just destroy things.

As said. No lifts or big suspension changes. Only shocks and we have not been stopped yet.

Catchya

Phil
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Follow Up By: Member - David S40 - Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 18:55

Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 18:55
Phil and Wayne.

Thanks for the info, We actually did Billy Goat last year and you are right it is and excellent track. We where looking at going a little further north east to explore hence Omeo. There is so much to explore in the high country we will be coming back for years.

Dave.
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Follow Up By: Member - PJR (NSW) - Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 19:16

Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 19:16
I am in the middle of getting dinner ready. Look up Haunted Creek Track. East of Omeo I think.

It runs along Haunter Stream (or creek etc) and is a good drive. A few crossings which were easy for all of us but one "interesting" climb out at the western most crossing. We drove east to west.

back later

Phil
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Follow Up By: Member - David S40 - Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 19:32

Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 19:32
Cheers , will do.

Dave
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Follow Up By: Member - PJR (NSW) - Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 19:35

Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 19:35
Haunted Stream Track is south of Omeo. The eastern end is at 37.442161S, 147.745643E and the west end at 37.388828S, 147.623734E. There is one marked camping spot half way along it at some ruins. I got this info from the Hema High Country Victoria – East sheet.

Some of the "smaller" vehicles had problems with one or two being winched up. Our car had a little issue as well. We didn't have lockers however the others in the video did.

I have a very short video of the exit on youtube at:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rbd9vDM9X2A



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Follow Up By: Member - David S40 - Friday, Apr 04, 2014 at 17:18

Friday, Apr 04, 2014 at 17:18
Cheers Phil'
Great vid, I will follow that one up too.

Great work fellas just the kind of stuff I was after.

Dave
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Reply By: Member - Andrew & Jen - Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 11:47

Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 11:47
Hullo David
I think it is worth noting that, depending on what has happened over winter/spring, some tracks may not be open even after the "official" Melb Cup start.
So, based on comments and research, you might want to have a number of alternative plans up your sleeve. It is quite possible that each of the alternatives you choose might have one or two "must be open" links associated with them, ones that are not easy to bypass without a major detour - hence having a Plan B, C or D :-)
BTW, given the nature of the terrain and weather, conditions can change in a day (or less)
Cheers
Andrew
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Follow Up By: LJME & LMG - Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 15:58

Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 15:58
Agree - Last year the track over Mt Stirling did not open until the end of November and AFAIK it will be Sat Nov 29 this year. Best to check with rangers re track openings before planning in great detail.
cheers
ljme
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Follow Up By: Member - David S40 - Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 18:58

Thursday, Apr 03, 2014 at 18:58
Andrew

Thanks for tip.

Dave.
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