hiclone air management systems
Submitted: Wednesday, Apr 30, 2014 at 23:18
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Member - Stuart and Gunny
Has anyone installed this and does it increase power and improve fuel economy.They claim over 5 million units sold.Thanks everyone .Bye Stuart and Gunny
Reply By: DiscoTourer - Wednesday, Apr 30, 2014 at 23:22
Wednesday, Apr 30, 2014 at 23:22
Get ready for the hammering!
Brett.....
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Reply By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Wednesday, Apr 30, 2014 at 23:30
Wednesday, Apr 30, 2014 at 23:30
Because my profession gives me a good understanding of fluid dynamics I can appreciate that this device cannot improve the issue of air/fuel mix in the engine intake system. The only effect it can have is to partially obstruct the flow and thus degrade engine performance.
Those who have fitted one and claim improved performance are deluding themselves possibly due to other engine maintenance performed or by changed driving habits. The manufacturers have resisted all overtures to submit the device to recognised testing institutions.
Their claim to 5 million units sold?? Maybe, they make some other wild claims too!
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Wednesday, Apr 30, 2014 at 23:51
Wednesday, Apr 30, 2014 at 23:51
Some manufacturers have in fact incorporated plastic fin mouldings into their air intakes to create intake air swirl!
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Follow Up By: The Bantam - Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 10:44
Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 10:44
There are indeed fin mouldings and swirl devices in some factory air intakes.
But they are specifically designed for a purpose and in conjunction with the remaining air system...AND..they are not there for the purpose that hiclone claim.
The highclone claim is that disrupting the airflow improves performance.....mostly nothing of the sort.
There may be rare cases where the air intake into the carby is so poorly designed ( and a specific designe error) the swirling effect of the hiclone may make an imrovement....but this is the exception rather than the rule.
Like many other items and chemical that claim to improve performance.....it is "proven" by vage and unreliable observations.
cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 14:22
Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 14:22
The swirl device on the 200series intake is there to spin out the extra dirt and dust - simple as that.
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Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 15:15
Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 15:15
Actually Shaker ,there is an improvement [only very minimal ] in fuel economy and a 'feel' of better throttle response if the original fan bladed restriction is removed , very common modification on the 4.0lt V6 as found in Prado and FJ Cruiser.
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Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 15:19
Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 15:19
Also Shaker ,factory fitted is PRE air filter so any perceived 'swirl' would be negated by the air filter to begin with.
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Reply By: The Explorer - Wednesday, Apr 30, 2014 at 23:36
Wednesday, Apr 30, 2014 at 23:36
Hi
While you are waiting for responses search the
forum - 60 previous threads on the subject
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Suspect this one will be same as the others :)
Cheers
Greg
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Wednesday, Apr 30, 2014 at 23:47
Wednesday, Apr 30, 2014 at 23:47
Greg,
I see that one of those threads has 16,626 views. That surely must be a EO
Forum record. The Hiclone has at least one achievement!
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Follow Up By: ExplorOz - David & Michelle - Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 00:07
Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 00:07
Allan,
Nah 16,626 is nothing just ran a query on this, and as at right now the most read thread has 1,325,427
views thread 84892, the next one has a mere 86040
views thread 53271.
David
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 02:52
Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 02:52
Flying Silver Carp so popular :)
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 07:14
Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 07:14
Wow David. I must be missing out.
What is the Thread Number so I can my peep to the 1,325,427 views?
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Follow Up By: Member - Des Lexic - Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 08:32
Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 08:32
Allan, reread Davids reply
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 10:06
Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 10:06
I've gotta get new glasses Des.
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Follow Up By: Ross M - Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 17:02
Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 17:02
1,325,427 views? That is nothing compared to Hiclones claim of 5,000,000 people sold but conned by marketting.
That is a record.
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Reply By: bluefella - Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 08:05
Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 08:05
I remember the blurb on this product from a lot of years ago, "fit 2 it is even better".
In my opinion NO they don't.
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Reply By: Nomadic Navara - Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 09:42
Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 09:42
I thought they had died a death of a thousand cuts, I was quite surprised that they are rising from the ashes when I saw an add on TV the other day. I suppose it's time to resurrect them, there must be another generation of mugs that have not heard of their reputation.
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Follow Up By: Ross M - Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 18:37
Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 18:37
Nomadic Navara
I is just a matter of teaching new dogs, old tricks.
If it is shown on Face Ache the Twitts will look on the U tube for how to fit one.
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Reply By: Peter_n_Margaret - Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 10:20
Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 10:20
One of the most successful auto con jobs of all time.
Cheers,
Peter
PKA196 Motorhome.
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Reply By: Member - Scott M (NSW) - Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 11:05
Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 11:05
Aren't the directors of this company up on charges for fraud by Consumer Affairs?
Last I heard of them they were trying to sell real-estate on the moon.....
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Follow Up By: OBJ - Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 17:15
Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 17:15
Yep. I got a good block. Water views and all.
OBJ
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Follow Up By: Member - Scott M (NSW) - Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 19:40
Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 19:40
Yeah those blocks around the Sea of Tranquility are a steal
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Reply By: greg l2 - Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 19:47
Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 19:47
hi blue fellow
yes i was a dick hd with too much money and put 2 on, i know where i would like to install them now and on who
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Reply By: ROBBS GONE BUSH - Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 22:29
Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 22:29
Hi Stuart,
I installed the hiclone into a previous intercooler turbo diesel vehicle and totally forgot about. but i was soon reminded when after about 6 years it disinegrated and destroyed the turbo..............it really did not make any difference and in the end cost me a lot of $.
cheers Rob
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Saturday, May 03, 2014 at 16:35
Saturday, May 03, 2014 at 16:35
How did it destroy the turbo?
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Follow Up By: ROBBS GONE BUSH - Sunday, May 04, 2014 at 21:03
Sunday, May 04, 2014 at 21:03
Shaker,
AS I said above, it
broke into pieces and damaged the turbo impellers.
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Reply By: WMS - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 15:52
Friday, May 02, 2014 at 15:52
Yep I was caught too..... made no difference I could notice and this has just reminded me to pull it out.....
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Reply By: Batt's - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 18:20
Friday, May 02, 2014 at 18:20
In one of the threads on here I talked about my experience with them. I do believe their claims are exaggerated and they don't work for all vehicles. I use to keep a very good record of my fuel consumption to compare it against which is what you need to do. The only way to really find out is try one for yourself no harm done and money back if not satisfied.I had success with one in a hj61 the turbo cut in earlier and the economy improved by half a litre but no change to a td5 disco.
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Reply By: Member - G.T. - Saturday, May 03, 2014 at 16:31
Saturday, May 03, 2014 at 16:31
I notice that there has been no response from Bill `S`, he was a very active supporter of this product! Regards G.T.
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Saturday, May 03, 2014 at 16:42
Saturday, May 03, 2014 at 16:42
Last I heard he was booking a
seat on a Martian flying saucer.
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