12v Fridges and water crossings ????

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Hi there boys and girls,have got a question for you all that im hoping you may be able to answer or have a similar worry.im worried about water crossings with my 100l 12v fridge in the back of my car has any 1 had this problem or lost a fridge ??? i have sikaflexed my back door seals and filled up all the holes and gromets in the back but am worried that if i perform a water crossing i may get stuck and my fridge will get wet and i will loose all my food and be stuck in the middle of no were with 100l of food that needs to be eaten cause i swamped my car. its to heavy to put on the roof or the camper rack !!!! is there any water proof bags you can buy (i know it sounds silly but worth a shot) maybe a big plastic tub ???? any thoughts or ideas would be appreciated thank you

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Reply By: AlbyNSW - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 13:21

Friday, May 02, 2014 at 13:21
I would have thought if you end up in that predicament, losing some food would be the least of your worries
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Follow Up By: oztrippin - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 13:26

Friday, May 02, 2014 at 13:26
my truck will make it through any thing im not worried about that im worried about loosing my fridge and food for i have a 17 month year old son we travel with and have to feed i know its not a submarine i just thought maybe people had some ideas on what to do ?? nolans crossing up the cape seems pretty deep
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Follow Up By: olcoolone - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 14:32

Friday, May 02, 2014 at 14:32
Yeap I would be more worried about the long walk for help.....

"My truck will make it through anything" really!

Your fridge should be OK if submerged as long as you don't connect it to 240v.

The concern I would have is why is water getting into you 4x4 to start with.

Men who play in big deep puddles must have big deep pockets and a very understanding wife/girlfriend/mum........ or mates who don't take the piss out of you.
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Follow Up By: oztrippin - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 14:47

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i have a very well set up truck mate it has all the gear on it (12000 lb winch,recovery gear,60m of winch rope ,35" tyres ,6 inch lift,water bra for the front,) it has everything i have 4wd for years i know my way around my truck mechanically and can fix anything that goes wrong (so no long walk but cant rewire a 12v fridge) but have never done any major water crossings i drive through Eli creek twice a month no dramas its for when i hit cape york im not a 18 year old tosser i am a grown man asking a legitimate question
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Follow Up By: AlbyNSW - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 15:06

Friday, May 02, 2014 at 15:06
Oztrippin, I was not having a dig at you at all, I just don't think it is much of an issue, I don't know what vehicle you have but assume if water ingress gets to the level of effecting your fridge, your car interior and computers if a later model one will also be waterlogged so that will be of greater concern I would of thought.
I have seen a few vehicles up there with their interiors stripped out trying to dry them out and it does not look like a lot of fun.

Enjoy your trip
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Follow Up By: Member - Rosss - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 15:38

Friday, May 02, 2014 at 15:38
By the look of those mods on your truck you should be more worried about the coppers than the water.
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Follow Up By: oztrippin - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 15:49

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it is fully engineered and mod plated thanks for your concerns
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Follow Up By: Dave(NSW) - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 17:03

Friday, May 02, 2014 at 17:03
With a lift like you have and running 35s the water wont get near your fridge unless it's on the floor. Ive seen heaps of cars with 2" lifts get stuck in Nolans with plenty of water on the floors but nowhere near there fridge.
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Follow Up By: olcoolone - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 20:51

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Never say you can fix anything that goes wrong with your truck even the best have become stranded, the art of remote travelling is don't be a hero and try and take the hard way if there is an easy way around.

People travel the Cape in near standard 4x4’s and survive unscathed because they are sensible and think of the outcome before doing it.

Sure it might be fun and it gets your hormones humming but it's no fun if you have to catch a bus home on a unexpected shortened trip you have planned for ages. AND pay for expensive repairs or transport costs.

Being sensible on a family trip is important and taking risks should be limited. Things can go pear shaped very quickly and something done for a bit of fun can end in heartache.

Your worried about your fridge but it's no use having a working fridge if your alternator stops charging and your batteries go flat, water and mud are the biggest killers of rotating electrical like alternators and starters.

Enjoy your trip and remember it's not a race, a competition or a winch challenge........ It's a holiday.

I'm not knocking you but from your posts you sound a little gung-ho (hence why you got some grief here)...... If your not I apologise sincerely.

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Follow Up By: oztrippin - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 22:07

Friday, May 02, 2014 at 22:07
im far from gung -ho mate,i thought it was a sensible question about getting water in my truck and wrecking all my gear and was hoping to find a way to prevent this,im more nervous about it than anything have seen alot of sensible people on u tube come unstuck and have there cars flooded. Im no pro 4wder, i do have a very capable worked truck and i have never been stuck yet doesn't mean im a hero. i have never been to the cape before and it worry's me having the family with me that's why i thought id come here for advice but it seems most people are here to mock and put people down rather than give me a helping hand. i do thank the kind people for there suggestions and am grateful but the others all i can say is very UN AUSTRALIAN.I may have come across like a young hoon but am far from it just a bloke asking for advice that doesn't like being made fun of.cheers
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Follow Up By: Dave(NSW) - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 23:33

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oztrippin,
If your worried about Nolans the later in the season you go the shallower it will be, If you watch the you tube vids of the ones that do it easyer they usually stay as far to the right hand side as you can get as it's shallower through that part, But always walk it first to check, even watch some others going through first,
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Reply By: Krooznalong - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 13:22

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Mate - if you're planning on going through water that deep there are probably a few more important things to worry about!
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Follow Up By: oztrippin - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 13:29

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was asking for ideas not other things to worry about im not crossing oceans i just want to ensure worst case scenario my fridge wont get wet some 1 must of had this worry ????
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Follow Up By: Krooznalong - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 13:38

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Mate - I've been following this site for yonks and do believe that you are the first to express this particular concern. Personally I would rate it a non-issue.
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Follow Up By: Krooznalong - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 13:58

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I would have thought that given the responses you've so far received you would have cottoned on that your concern re the fridge is unwarranted. If you ask a question and then, based on the responses which were plainly designed to allay your illogical concern, you feel stupid, it isn't my fault. Suggest you take one each of a reality and chill pill and have a nice lie down and perhaps you'll feel better afterwards.
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Follow Up By: olcoolone - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 14:34

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Thought you said "My truck will make it through anything" so you wont get stuck and there is no concern for your fridge.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 17:48

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Of course your fridge will get flooded in a "worst case scenario"!

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Follow Up By: Shaker - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 20:40

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By the way, this is a family forum we don't swear or launch personal attacks!
If you don't want answers, don't ask wustions.
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Follow Up By: olcoolone - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 20:56

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Hey Shaker.... Your "Q" & "W" buttons are around the wong way on your keyboard......

Or is it from getting a bit worked up?
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Using the phone & watching football, usually read it first, don't know why they have never given us an edit function!

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Reply By: Les PK Ranger - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 13:44

Friday, May 02, 2014 at 13:44
Expect you're *really* worried about frying the fridge electrics ??
And THAT is a very good question, one I haven't seen on any forum before !!

I have a fridge and arkpak, but in the cabin, so not as bigger risk, if they went, as others have said I'd have bigger issues with the 4B than the fridge.

I'd suggest maybe a low plastic tub to help keep water at bay that might get into the back on a crossing, but of course it can't be that high it would restrict airflow.

Or, as you suggested, maybe some cling wrap / shrink wrap around the fridge as a precaution before a water crossing ?
You'd have to turn the fridge off for as long as it takes to cross, of course.
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Follow Up By: oztrippin - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 13:48

Friday, May 02, 2014 at 13:48
thank you so much for your feedback is muchly appreciated it was a serious question and am worried about frying my fridge in the middle of no were and having to folk out another $1200 for a new one thank you for your time am glad you understand my concern thank you
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Follow Up By: oztrippin - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 13:54

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i have 2 bilge pumps set up under drivers and passenger seats its mainly the rear doors im worried about filling up
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Reply By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 13:54

Friday, May 02, 2014 at 13:54
If you're concerned about protecting the fridge from short-term inundation you could sit it on a square of heavy-duty plastic sheet. Keep the sheet folded down while travelling with the fridge in use, then pull it up around the fridge before the water crossing ....... with the fridge turned off of course.

Just don't get so excited by the success of the crossing that you forget to turn the fridge back on and still lose your tucker. LOL
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Follow Up By: oztrippin - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 14:00

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cheers allan thats a really good idea thank you so much i dont feel so silly for asking any more i looked around alot of sites trying to find ideas but found nothing thanks for your help if we meet on our travells ill put on some lunch for you out of my working fridge cheers again
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 14:14

Friday, May 02, 2014 at 14:14
That's OK Oztrippin, I'll keep a watch out for a rig with a fridge wrapped in plastic at a water crossing and share lunch and a beer with you.
Don't be too upset about some of the responses above, I think people were just being helpful and saying that they did not think you were in much danger. Sometimes the written word can come over as a bit harsh. You should see some of the heated exchanges I have attracted on this forum! But they really are all nice blokes actually.
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Follow Up By: oztrippin - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 14:26

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your welcome any time Allan thanks again it is a serious question though i travel with my son and my wife and having food is important and protecting my fridge is also important. i have seen trucks filled to the brim with water after a water crossing and want to do everything i can to make sure my gear is safe. i dont have a spare $1000 for a new fridge and arent that keen on living of what i catch lol its mainly Nolan crossing up the cape that concerns me most it looks deep and have seen a few get stuck, i don't wanna be that guy and having my family with me as a responsible parent and partner i want to try be ready for worst case scenario in every occasion that i can so it may not be an important worry for others but for me it is what if i got half way up the telegraph track and fried my fridge and lost all my food?? lol dont worry family we can live of twigs and berrys lol i just wanna be safe didnt mean to sound stupid and the way i was raised there is no such thing as a stupid question :)
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 14:40

Friday, May 02, 2014 at 14:40
Oz, some of the Cape crossings can pose a problem. The correct route is not always "straight across". And walking across first can have it's risks. So if in doubt, a useful tip is to wait a while and let someone else go across first and watch his route then follow it. At some of the creeks you will find people hangin' about watchin' who will be keen to offer advice on how to handle the crossing and even chuck you a strap if you get stuck. Have a great time.
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Reply By: Member - Scott M (NSW) - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 14:33

Friday, May 02, 2014 at 14:33
You've probably got a similar problem to those guys who travel around with fridges in the back of open Utes - I often wonder what they do when it rains....

As Allen said - best thing is to make sure it's disconnected - most things will recover from water ingress given enough time to dry out..........
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Follow Up By: oztrippin - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 14:49

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cheers scotty its a gq patrol fridge will be in the rear of the cabin just worried about water leaking through the sills thats all cheers for your post
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Reply By: manjyMonkey - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 15:12

Friday, May 02, 2014 at 15:12
Ive previously done what Allan B suggested when I've had the fridge on the tray. Sat it on some black builders plastics, tucked the excess away and if I came to water where it was a concern I'd unplug it, wrap the whole thing and tape it up
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Reply By: SDG - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 15:22

Friday, May 02, 2014 at 15:22
A mate of mine was travelling with us once in a Hilux ute. We went through many a creek/puddle with no water getting into his tray area.
He got cocky with one large water hole and got stuck. It was only after he was stationary that water got in his tray. All his camping gear got drenched.

Don't stop, and you will be fine, but as mistakes can happen, i would suggest a tub to sit fridge in for that crossing if you have any doubt at all. Another suggestion is let someone else go first. Let them be the guinea pig. lol
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Reply By: steved58 - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 15:25

Friday, May 02, 2014 at 15:25
Makes me wonder how camper trailers get on when the fidge is in the trailer a lot of them are lower than the vehicle that makes this question very relevent in my mind best of luck to you nolans can be tough

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Follow Up By: oztrippin - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 15:52

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cheers mate i thought was a relevant question to theres gotta be a few out there who has lost a fridge
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Reply By: oztrippin - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 18:25

Friday, May 02, 2014 at 18:25
thank you to most for your replys and ideas i found a solution bunnings sell a military style waterproof storage container that measures 1100x550x670 for $400 for any 1 that has similar concerns your fridge will be safe even if you sink the car lol cheers and happy traveling
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 19:31

Friday, May 02, 2014 at 19:31
Oz,
If you put your fridge in such a container it is likely that it will suffer from recycled hot air around the condenser. Any container large enough to avoid this will take up a lot of space in your vehicle.
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Follow Up By: oztrippin - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 20:04

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i planned on turning it of for water crossings :)
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Reply By: Member - Rosco from way back - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 18:29

Friday, May 02, 2014 at 18:29
Suggestion 1:

If the water is that deep, do you really, really need to cross?

Suggestion 2:

Go with the fridge in the tub recommendation.

Suggestion 3:

Add a periscope to the bilge pumps already installed if suggestions 1 or 2 don't cut the mustard.
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Follow Up By: AlbyNSW - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 18:45

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Rosco you forgot option 4. Fit a snorkel to your fridge
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Reply By: Ross M - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 18:43

Friday, May 02, 2014 at 18:43
You could always take a small inflatable dingy or raft and float your fridge across ON TOW or even before crossing.
That way it won't get flooded if the 4wd disappears down a hole.

That way the fridge is safe and the winch can then be used to recover the vehicle at your leisure.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 20:45

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Good call, now that solve the fridge problem in the worst case scenario, then he could have a sausage & a beer while watching the bubbles & oil slick coming uo from the vehicle!


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Reply By: The Bantam - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 20:30

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Trippin mate..a far more reasoable question that a lot of people want to admit.

Its hardly unusual to see or hear of 4wds with all the contents saturated..so how does the fridge fair.

I still remember a video of the famous "Roothy".....wett to the waist, soggy seat, saturated swag and pouring water out of his tool box.

If ya dragging arround a 100 liter fridge....um.....you have placed a pretty larger wager there.

I find it interesting that people carry such large fridges and depend on them when there are very reasonable posibilities of failures, from variuos causes.

The problems are...you have a large risk packed in that single large fridge and its too big to mount high.

Personally I simply cant imagine what could justify, such a large fridge....but plenty seem to carry them.

surely you carry other dried, canned and long life food appart from what is in the fridge.



back to the actual risks to the fridge.....in the past the portable fridges, like the engel where pretty simple.....the fridge motors where more of less sealed units and the thermostats where basic mechanical items, if there was some sort of inverter..it was pretty well " tropic proofed"....if they where not turned on when they got wet...once they dried out, they would be just fine.

These days however the modern fridge contains electronics that may not fair as well.
though...as with most electronics...if it is turned off when it gets wet...its got a pretty fair chance of working when it dries out.....yeh but that drying out is a bit of an issue when the contents of the fridge will keep it cool and promote condensation.

It is common to see 30 or 40 liter ..or even 50 litre fridges mounted high in the vehicle where if they got drowned, the vehicle owner had far bigger problems than the fridge.

But that big hundred liter lump makes that a bit difficult.


anything you do to protect it will either take up a lot of space, impeed the performance of the fridge or be very inconvienient.

That blow up dingy is looking less and less like a joke.

yeh I see what people mean about the sheet plastic and the big tubs...but what are you going to do..wrap the fridge up at every crossing...pull it out and put it in the tub each time or what.

I have seen people with fridges and eskies on the roof rack....I saw one bloke climb a ladder to get some milk for his coffee.
But a 100 liter fridge will be well over 100Kg full......that is a lot of weight to travel on a roof rack and a real lump to lift up there each suspect river crossing.

HEY
Ya know what might be the go...one of those poartable spill containment bunds.
I've seen em like fold up and I've seen em that look like a blow up swimming pool.


Another thaught.
If ya like fishin...kill two birds with one stone...tow a boat up the cape and put the fridge in that.

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Reply By: cookie1 - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 20:44

Friday, May 02, 2014 at 20:44
Hi mate,
been in a situation where water got in and thought of a pretty easy solution,

bought some duct tape and if in the same situation would simply tape over the door openings and enter via an open window, still have it today

just make sure you drop your tyre pressures so that your footprint is quite large so you get maximum traction and create a gentle bow wave, I also have a Bra to go across the front even though I have a snorkel.

HTH

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Reply By: Hairy (NT) - Saturday, May 03, 2014 at 13:51

Saturday, May 03, 2014 at 13:51
Gday,
Does your car have a sunroof?
If it does you could position it under the sun roof, on top of an air mattress so it could float up through the roof as the water level gets higher?
You may want to consider putting the Mrs and kids in the fridge too.

Ps. don't worry about the knockers they don't know what adventure is......Happy boating.

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Follow Up By: The Bantam - Sunday, May 04, 2014 at 10:24

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OH..OH..OH.....theres an idea.

install an electric sun roof right up the back.........install the fridge on one of those scissor load lifters and helo uncle bob.

when you get into a deep crossing....open the sunroof and the fridge elivates up thru the sun roof.

will have a double function if you have a good strong roof rack.......you could put some chairs up there ( to watch sunset, motor racing whatever) and elivate the fridge for convieneint beer and snack access.

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Follow Up By: Hairy (NT) - Sunday, May 04, 2014 at 10:53

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If you wired in a tilt switch it could all happen automatically......just watch the hill climbs.
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Follow Up By: The Bantam - Sunday, May 04, 2014 at 13:07

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I think we are onto something here..ya recon there is a market for it.........or at least a 4wd mag cartoon.

I recon a flot switch or a water level switch would be the go and the whole thing could be automated.

The hard bit would be the brain probes for the hunger & thurst detector for the on roof application...that would have to be wireless of course.

You've seen the BCF "nice chair" add.....this could combine the "nice chair" add with the "one upman chip" add....N.N.Nah...N.N.Nah

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Reply By: Batt's - Saturday, May 03, 2014 at 22:45

Saturday, May 03, 2014 at 22:45
Hi I'm in qld and I'm very interested in how and who mod plated you 4X4 with the 6" lift and tyres this would help me a lot because I'm planning on raising mine higher than the 2" lift I have and fitting bigger than my current 33" tyres thanks.
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Follow Up By: The Bantam - Sunday, May 04, 2014 at 10:34

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Batt mate I thing you will have a lot of difficulty under the current regulations.

if you go 2 inches in the suspenion and an inch of lift from the tyres, you have to ask no never mind.

Any more than that is possible in theory, but it becomes a major engineering exercise that includes lane change testing and heaps of hoops to jump thru.....in QLD and most other states lifts over 3 inches may as well be impossible for most of us.

If you want big tyres and big clearance, you might as well go and buy one of the small trucks..like the Iveco turbo daily....mitsui, isuzu, hino and merc all do something.

AND most of the 4wd light trucks come with most of the stuff you will be paying lots of $$$ to have on a passenger or light commercial derived 4wd.

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Reply By: Robin Miller - Sunday, May 04, 2014 at 09:24

Sunday, May 04, 2014 at 09:24
We lost a fridge that way when the kids borrowed the car for a competition event.

They should have turned it off when water got into the cabin.

Getting wet in non salt water wasn't so much a problem as shorting of electrics.

I wrote a post about repairing it - basically we brought a chinese copy control module for it which saved a lot of money - fridge still works well.
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