Ranger/BT-50/Bravo DIY follow on

Submitted: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 at 09:31
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After a lengthy post regarding DIYers and mechanics not understanding somethings......

Got an email (one of many service bulletins a weekI get) from Gates about specific alternators/water pump drive belts for the 2006 - 2011 Ford Ranger / BT-50 / Bravo.

These belts look like an every day automotive "V" belt but according to this bulletin they are different and it's not advisable to use the wrong belt.

This link explains it all.....

http://ww2.gates.com/australia/downloads/download_common.cfm?file=ALDB0414_Gates_Special_Application_V-belts_April_20142.pdf&folder=news&view=australia&location_id=18884

We have come across similar things on a range of vehicle where you think it's just a standard everyday part and the original part is an arm and a leg to buy..... only to find out the original part is the only one you can fit.
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Reply By: Ross M - Tuesday, May 13, 2014 at 10:01

Tuesday, May 13, 2014 at 10:01
Trust Mazda to change the V angle slightly so no one notices AND only their belt fits.

That is only done to ensure maximum return of $$$$$ to Mazda. There seems no other reason why a change away FROM A WORLD STANDARD would be necessary.

They do that because they can.

Are all the others in the world unsuitable in their V belt pulley angle?????
Now GATES have had to change to accommodate for it. at an additional cost and resources used.


Mazda crow about "Sky active technology" and other features but create diversions which cost the planet in other ways to negate possible good work they do.

Maybe they should be called ADZAM, and then clearly seen as a "Frack ot Bunt" company.
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Follow Up By: olcoolone - Tuesday, May 13, 2014 at 10:52

Tuesday, May 13, 2014 at 10:52
Don't know if they did it form financial reasons...... they would have to sell a lot of belts to overcome the engineering and tooling costs, most belts last over 50,000 kilometes and many don't replace belts until at least 100,000 + kilometers when they can't stand the squealing any more.

Belts are one thing most mechanics (dealership and private) or DIYers forget about....... we replace heaps of belts and most customers say we have only had it serviced last week...... it takes 1 minute to check the belts for cracking, glazing or chunks missing.

I would say it was done chasing that .01% better economy/power or noise improvement.

There are many belts on eartmoving and heavy vehicle that we have to buy/stock genuine belts for....... you can get a 10pk 1605 or a 10pk 1645 but the geniun is a 10pk 1625.
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Follow Up By: Member - Toyocrusa (NSW) - Tuesday, May 13, 2014 at 21:03

Tuesday, May 13, 2014 at 21:03
On a Mazda 3 there is no adjustment on the Air conditioning belt. It is a stretch belt that you wind on or off over the pulleys. It is still a multi V belt though. Don't know who designed that one but I haven't seen an aftermarket replacement yet. Bob.
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Follow Up By: olcoolone - Tuesday, May 13, 2014 at 22:26

Tuesday, May 13, 2014 at 22:26
Stretch fit belts have been around since 2002 but become more popular in 2004.

Gates Australia carries them.

They were invented for a few reasons...... No adjustable idler pulley, takes up less room on the engine and less noise due to no spring loaded tensioner.

The Volkswagens v10 Touareg has no belts, all driven by gears.
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Reply By: Axle - Tuesday, May 13, 2014 at 11:06

Tuesday, May 13, 2014 at 11:06
Mate I reckon serpentine belts are the pain, unless you get the original genuine part!

Everything else is, either a tad longer or shorter, the ribs are either square edge or v edge, some squeal straight off, or rumble, or make some horrible noise in a short period of time, its one area where genuine is a must for long livety.


Cheers Axle.
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