Where's it all heading, with the soft roaders???

Submitted: Friday, Jun 06, 2014 at 20:16
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And there all getting bigger!!..lol.

The latest Kluger is larger than the early Pajero.

The distant brands re appearing,..Fiat, Skoda,.....Kia, ..Hyundia, are punching pretty hard,..Colorado,..Izuzu,..Mazda,..Ford,,Let alone the the latest from india,..China,


So how good is our market?....Competition is good, But will they all survive?..Of course don't forget Suby"and all their models,.No wonder Bomadores and Foul cans are going to disappear at a rate of knots, Its certainly changing times in the Auto industry.

Cheers Axle.
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Reply By: The Explorer - Friday, Jun 06, 2014 at 20:31

Friday, Jun 06, 2014 at 20:31
Someone asked the same question/similar comment a few years ago...

Soft Roaders certainley ripping sales off the family sedan!

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Follow Up By: Axle - Friday, Jun 06, 2014 at 20:47

Friday, Jun 06, 2014 at 20:47
So Whats Your Job????


Keeping check on whats been stated by everyone over the years?


Very Pathetic way of passing time!

Axle.
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Follow Up By: The Explorer - Friday, Jun 06, 2014 at 21:04

Friday, Jun 06, 2014 at 21:04
? Sorry - was just posting the link for reference as it's interesting to see how subject/comments evolve over time.

I actually have a Commodore as a second vehicle and was contemplating a change to a Forester or similar SUV so found your thread (potentially) highly interesting...though it may be as you indicate, a "pathetic way of passing time".

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Follow Up By: pop2jocem - Friday, Jun 06, 2014 at 21:43

Friday, Jun 06, 2014 at 21:43
Wow. Hey Axle, the chill pill supply running a bit low mate.

Sounds a bit like a slightly bent axle...lol

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Follow Up By: Axle - Saturday, Jun 07, 2014 at 10:30

Saturday, Jun 07, 2014 at 10:30
G/Day Pop,.....There was a Tone in his reply that made me ark up!


I've also seen it before with others.


I don't see the point in dragging old threads up, good or bad.

Start something fresh.

Not to worry

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Follow Up By: DiscoTourer - Saturday, Jun 07, 2014 at 11:11

Saturday, Jun 07, 2014 at 11:11
No tone at all in his post.

Best to reread.

But then again your reply certainly has negative tone.....

Brett...
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Reply By: Tony H15 - Friday, Jun 06, 2014 at 20:44

Friday, Jun 06, 2014 at 20:44
We're definitely spoilt for choice now; although I'm not too keen on brands that were sold here years ago and are now back. And the new breed of SUVs are excellent, not 4WD by any stretch, but great for towing and the occasional soft road jaunt, particularly the new diesels. I bought a new 2.2 diesel ASX a few months back, excellent for our lightweight camper. I'm a little sus on some of the brands that were available in Oz many years ago, they disappeared from our market for a while and now they're back again: Skoda, Renault, Ssang Yong, Jeep, Dodge, one wonders if they will remain this time around. Isn't it annoying though how there is never one vehicle that suits all your requirements?
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Follow Up By: Mick T3 - Friday, Jun 06, 2014 at 21:23

Friday, Jun 06, 2014 at 21:23
I'm having second thoughts about getting a 2014 Prado. Too heavy for the city, and expensive, but can't make up my mind on something smaller.

I hate pouring petrol from jerry cans in the bush, but maybe that is how it will go.



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Follow Up By: Tony H15 - Friday, Jun 06, 2014 at 23:01

Friday, Jun 06, 2014 at 23:01
By a diesel, then you won't have to fill so often. Xtrail, Forrester, Dualis, Rav4, ASX, Outlander, Yeti, Sportage, IX35, Santa Fe, Sorento, Korando, all available in diesel. You'd think there would be an aftermarket tank available for the smaller SUVs. I get over 800klm per tank from my auto diesel ASX.
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Follow Up By: mikehzz - Saturday, Jun 07, 2014 at 08:49

Saturday, Jun 07, 2014 at 08:49
When did Jeep disappear and come back again?
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Follow Up By: Ross M - Saturday, Jun 07, 2014 at 09:56

Saturday, Jun 07, 2014 at 09:56
Tony H15

I don't think "we are spoilt for choice".
Australia is a dumping round (always has been) where any world car maker can sell/dump models of a vehicle if they wish to.

While some are ok others are not and some are unwise purchases.
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Follow Up By: Axle - Saturday, Jun 07, 2014 at 10:36

Saturday, Jun 07, 2014 at 10:36
Ross M I agree,...And some with engines from the past that weren't to bright,....Ford F series comes to mind with one of their V8s.

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Follow Up By: Tony H15 - Saturday, Jun 07, 2014 at 11:50

Saturday, Jun 07, 2014 at 11:50
Put like that you'd be right, I was comparing to days of old when our options weren't so great. Compare what was available back in the sixties to what we have now - we are spoilt for choice. What's annoying about the Oz cars is we are mostly offered petrol engined cars, most are available in Europe with diesels. I new someone would find fault with my list of cars that disappeared then returned! Unfortunately there is no edit function in this forum so you'll just have to lie awake at night worrying about it - OMG!
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Follow Up By: Ross M - Saturday, Jun 07, 2014 at 18:52

Saturday, Jun 07, 2014 at 18:52
Tony H15
I didn't know the ASX was into cars at all.
Here I am ignorant, I have seen all the others but I don't know what and ASX is, apart from the Australian Stock Exchange.
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Follow Up By: Tony H15 - Saturday, Jun 07, 2014 at 21:04

Saturday, Jun 07, 2014 at 21:04
Mitsubishi!
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Reply By: Gone Bush (WA) - Friday, Jun 06, 2014 at 21:27

Friday, Jun 06, 2014 at 21:27
The interesting thing about the new Kluger, is that it is really the US manufactured Highlander.

Let's hope Toyota are building some more vehicles in the US for the right hand drive market, like the Tundra, rumoured to be replacing the 70 series after they drop a Cummins V8 diesel into it.

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Follow Up By: Axle - Saturday, Jun 07, 2014 at 10:12

Saturday, Jun 07, 2014 at 10:12
That would be a interesting vehicle,If price was reasonable.


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Follow Up By: Member - Phil 'n Jill (WA) - Saturday, Jun 07, 2014 at 11:30

Saturday, Jun 07, 2014 at 11:30
Yes that Tundra looks a standout - spotted one the other day and thought it looked interesting - didn't know the breed though and had to look it up on the web - certainly up there with the 'F' series - pricewise and space by all appearances - didn't get too far into the research though after seeing the price tag....

Amazing variety of builds found on one link.

Just another one to add to the 'lotto list'.

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Reply By: SDG - Friday, Jun 06, 2014 at 21:47

Friday, Jun 06, 2014 at 21:47
At least there is no reemergence of the Lada Niva. Not that I have seen anyway. I believe they are still in production.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Friday, Jun 06, 2014 at 22:18

Friday, Jun 06, 2014 at 22:18
They were an extremely capable four wheel drive!
4 coils, constant 4wd, centre diff lock etc.
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Follow Up By: auzinomad - Friday, Jun 06, 2014 at 22:44

Friday, Jun 06, 2014 at 22:44
Heated rear window to keep your hands warm when pushing them, faulty Bosch ECU (?) that would stop everything when it felt you ''needed'' to be somewhere.
Yep great little box of surprises
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Follow Up By: Tony H15 - Friday, Jun 06, 2014 at 22:56

Friday, Jun 06, 2014 at 22:56
You forgot the mechanics favourite - square bearings.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Friday, Jun 06, 2014 at 22:56

Friday, Jun 06, 2014 at 22:56
I would doubt if it was a Bosch ECU, as they had basic coil & points ignition & all the electrics were based on Magneti Marelli, they were part owned by Fiat & had heaps of parts interchangeable with Fiat 125.
Anyway, I didn't say they were reliable, I said capable!
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Follow Up By: mikehzz - Saturday, Jun 07, 2014 at 08:52

Saturday, Jun 07, 2014 at 08:52
I saw a Lada Niva on a track in Yengo NP a few weeks ago. I was moving so that's a good thing...
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Follow Up By: mikehzz - Saturday, Jun 07, 2014 at 08:54

Saturday, Jun 07, 2014 at 08:54
*It was moving..
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Follow Up By: Ross M - Saturday, Jun 07, 2014 at 10:03

Saturday, Jun 07, 2014 at 10:03
If you bothered to fix the few faults of a Lada Niva then it would leave most others behind. Nearly ALL in fact.
Light weight, go where others cannot.
It was also far easier to tow than the others too. If that became necessary.
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Follow Up By: Tony H15 - Saturday, Jun 07, 2014 at 11:57

Saturday, Jun 07, 2014 at 11:57
For their day, the Ladas sounded good on paper, particularly in view of the price. Unfortunately square bearings and the like didn't do them any favors. Remember the Rocksta and Mahindra, I seriously looked at both - fortunately..........
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Reply By: Tony H15 - Friday, Jun 06, 2014 at 22:52

Friday, Jun 06, 2014 at 22:52
Before deciding on the ASX I had a look at the (then) new Rav4 diesel. Extremely ugly interior but quite a nice car otherwise, diesel engine very punchy and it drove well. Luckily I checked the specs on redbook and found they were only rated to tow 500kg. Toyota said they were still doing testing and would be upgrading it's rating in the near future. They finally upgraded it - it's now rated to tow 1000 kgs. The Xtrail is rated for 2000 kgs, the ASX 1400 kg, Sportage and IX35 1800kgs?, even the petrol Rav4 is rated for around 1600 kgs, What on earth are Toyota thinking.
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Reply By: Erad - Saturday, Jun 07, 2014 at 08:54

Saturday, Jun 07, 2014 at 08:54
We are all getting older. Well, everyone else is, not me! But I do have trouble bending my back to get into a regular car, and getting out is hell. The latest SUV's fit the bill quite well. I bought a Mitsubishi Outlander for my wife and a Pajero for me, both manual transmissions. The Outlander is a 2WD and is used for regular commuting etc. The Pajero is used as a tug to tow our caravan around (when we can actually get away).

The Outlander is petrol, because when I did the sums, I couldn't justify the extra purchase price for the diesel (the diesel is the 4WD model), but both vehicles have 1000 km range in the tank (the Pajero has nearly 1200 if I drive quietly), so we don't have to fill either vehicel very often. But gee, it hurts when I do fill them up - 88L Pajero or 63L Outlander.

The important thing is that my wife loves her car, and I am in raptures with mine.
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Follow Up By: Member - Ups and Downs - Saturday, Jun 07, 2014 at 09:08

Saturday, Jun 07, 2014 at 09:08
"But gee, it hurts when I do fill them up - 88L Pajero or 63L Outlander"

Erad, it's not only your vehicle that's soft!

Try filling up a Troopy's 180 litre tanks, that's not 'hurt', that is real pain.

LOL
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Follow Up By: Gone Bush (WA) - Saturday, Jun 07, 2014 at 10:13

Saturday, Jun 07, 2014 at 10:13
Erad, I agree with you about getting in and out of vehicles.

Our shopping trolley is a Kia Soul (turbo diesel auto).



The story goes that Kia introduced this vehicle aiming it directly at the Hip Hop set, but because it's a little higher off the ground, easier to get in and out of, and quite roomy inside, it has become popular with the Hip Replacement set.



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Follow Up By: Steve - Saturday, Jun 07, 2014 at 17:24

Saturday, Jun 07, 2014 at 17:24
or the Hip Op set
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Follow Up By: pop2jocem - Saturday, Jun 07, 2014 at 18:38

Saturday, Jun 07, 2014 at 18:38
That's exactly why when we replaced the wife's shopping trolley, grandkid transporter Dunnydore we opted for a RAV4.
The Commondore was getting to be a real pain in the arse, hip, knee, back you name it it hurt to get in and out of. The RAV is great. Also got enough ground clearance to hop over the odd curb when required. Just the petrol model but economical enough to buzz around town and does country without any dramas.

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