Don't take this vehicle off-road!

Submitted: Tuesday, Jul 01, 2014 at 12:18
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It has been a while since I used this site so apologies if this topic has been covered - I have searched without success.

I was waiting at the local Mitsubishi dealer last week while my Pajero was being fixed! I had a look at the vehicles in the showroom! and was particularly interested in the Hybrid Outlander PHEV. Although the claimed 1.9litres per 100kms only holds true in very specific circumstances the claimed 6.5ish litres per 100kms of realistic usage is still impressive.

However, big shock, this 4x4 vehicle, presumably designed to go off road, doesn't have a spare wheel. Not even one of those silly pretend spare wheels. It has a puncture repair kit!

How useful do they think that is going to be when the entire side wall has disappeared half way up the Gibb River Road? Even a minor side wall split is unlikely to be fixable with a couple of plugs.

What are they thinking.

Seriously, does anyone know what their thinking is on spare wheels? Although there is no space inside surely they could stick one on the back?

I see an opening for the after market boys.

What do you call a soft roarer that is this soft?

Greydemon
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Reply By: Rod W - Tuesday, Jul 01, 2014 at 14:26

Tuesday, Jul 01, 2014 at 14:26
Jeez I don't know it'll give ya 100 miles per gallon and you want then to chuck in a spare tyre as well... I don't know. Spose next you'll want oil in the engine as well.
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Reply By: Ross M - Tuesday, Jul 01, 2014 at 14:43

Tuesday, Jul 01, 2014 at 14:43
Definitely CUSTARD
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Reply By: garrycol - Tuesday, Jul 01, 2014 at 15:30

Tuesday, Jul 01, 2014 at 15:30
Just a spare wheel to the list of modifications to make any new vehicle suitable for offroading.
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Follow Up By: garrycol - Tuesday, Jul 01, 2014 at 15:31

Tuesday, Jul 01, 2014 at 15:31
Why is there no edit on this forum :-(

Just add a spare wheel ...........
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Reply By: MP - Tuesday, Jul 01, 2014 at 15:49

Tuesday, Jul 01, 2014 at 15:49
I wonder if the puncture repair kit comes with a compressor??? I have also just read a reasonably glowing review including its offroad capabilities but no mention that it did not have a spare tyre. I would have thought you need a spare to meet Australian Standards.
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Follow Up By: AlbyNSW - Tuesday, Jul 01, 2014 at 17:31

Tuesday, Jul 01, 2014 at 17:31
There are a number of vehicles now that do not come with a spare.
I guess it is all part of the quest to get maximum MPG and the greenest tick to get car sales.
What is practical is not that high on the list anymore
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Follow Up By: greydemon - Tuesday, Jul 01, 2014 at 18:17

Tuesday, Jul 01, 2014 at 18:17
Actually Yes, it does come with a compressor, neatly tucked away in the boot next to the repair kit.
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Follow Up By: Les PK Ranger - Tuesday, Jul 01, 2014 at 19:04

Tuesday, Jul 01, 2014 at 19:04
I suppose in some ways it is easier for a tyre to be plugged rather than changed, as long as it's a typical nail / screw type of thing, and not a side wall stake.
Sometimes they can be hard to spot though.
I think a lot of city users will be calling the auto service to assist with these when a puncture occurs :)
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Reply By: get outmore - Tuesday, Jul 01, 2014 at 16:06

Tuesday, Jul 01, 2014 at 16:06
To be fair I cannot remember ever getting a flat in the city. And can only recall one ever on the bitumen maybe 25years ago when I clipped a kerb and trashed a sudewall
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Reply By: get outmore - Tuesday, Jul 01, 2014 at 16:08

Tuesday, Jul 01, 2014 at 16:08
Electric vehicles though have massive potential offroad.
Imagine a vehicle driving separately to each wheel with maximum kw from stanstill
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Reply By: Tony H15 - Tuesday, Jul 01, 2014 at 18:06

Tuesday, Jul 01, 2014 at 18:06
A: An SUV!
The outlander, although badged and advertised as a 4x4, is as you said a soft roader. I certainly wouldn't be taking it off road and certainly not across the GRR- it's not in the same league as a Pajero. I have the Mitsubishi ASX 2.2L auto diesel which has the same running gear as the Outlander, just in a smaller package and no way would I ever take it off road, maybe the beach or a gravel track reasonably close to civilization - it doesn't have the build, clearance or low range typical of 4X4s. My ASX is a 2013 model and came with the skinny spare. Mitsubishi make and sell a kit comprising a normal size spare plus a rear floor conversion to accommodate it for $800, I'd be surprised if a similar kit isn't available for the Outlander. I live in the far outer suburbs of Adelaide so most of my driving would probably be considered a 50/50 mix of highway and city driving. On my last refill I averaged 5.8 LPH which is what Redbook quotes as the combined average. Best I've had is 5.6, worst was 7.2. Mitsi quotes the Outlander as having pretty much the same consumption figures as the ASX. Either way for an auto that's extremely good consumption. I've never done a longish trip without towing the camper so no idea what I'd get on the highway. With the camper behind consumption is nothing flash - around 10 LPH. Now before the 'you get what you pay for' crowd jump in... I've had three Mitsubishis, never had a problem with any of them: no breakdowns, no repairs, no trouble with warranty or servicing and never had bits just coming loose and falling off - wish I could say the same for the four Toyotas I've owned!!!
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Follow Up By: greydemon - Tuesday, Jul 01, 2014 at 18:23

Tuesday, Jul 01, 2014 at 18:23
I have found the same thing with my Pajero, though I have had one breakdown. As a rule it just goes on doing what it is supposed to do. Compared to the Disco I had before, the Pajero is as boring as bat bleep but when you are out in the desert the choice between character and reliability is an easy one.
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Follow Up By: greydemon - Tuesday, Jul 01, 2014 at 18:25

Tuesday, Jul 01, 2014 at 18:25
Oh, yes, I was at the dealers having the Pajero fixed but it was only for a headlight clean and adjustment, maintenance rather than repair.
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Reply By: Member - Jim B8 - Tuesday, Jul 01, 2014 at 18:33

Tuesday, Jul 01, 2014 at 18:33
I don't reckon you'd find too many owners of a hydrid 4wd on this forum, maybe a few running round the city. You get what you pay for. Ability starts with the ability to deliver.

Not my cuppa.
Might be ok delivering coffees on the Freo café strip?
Stick to your Pajero, their pretty good. But its fun to look over the fence ha ha you are very correct!!
Jim
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Reply By: Angryz - Tuesday, Jul 01, 2014 at 18:54

Tuesday, Jul 01, 2014 at 18:54
Later VE Commodore utes don't come with a spare wheel or any tools.We tried to order one with a spare & were told we would have to order everything through spare parts ourselves. When we asked spare parts about a jack & tool kit the response was"so you want a can of puncture repair in a can" as this is what they supply. Not much good if you get a puncture & it breaks the bead!
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Reply By: mikehzz - Tuesday, Jul 01, 2014 at 22:00

Tuesday, Jul 01, 2014 at 22:00
Has it got run flat tyres like the beemers?
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