Blown motor in the outback

Submitted: Tuesday, Jul 08, 2014 at 09:33
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Hi everyone, blew the motor in our patrol yesterday 100k from Ayres rock, now need to get it sent to Melbourne or Adelaide with our trailer connected to the patrol, any info or cost on this , has anyone one done it be4.i guess a truck fright company is the go.
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Reply By: Les PK Ranger - Tuesday, Jul 08, 2014 at 09:45

Tuesday, Jul 08, 2014 at 09:45
Sorry to hear of your trouble Kev, absolute bugger of a thing to happen when travelling.

Yes, I think a truck company would be the way to go, suggest some here might be in the game and be able to suggest where to call as in different companies, and locations (Alice or Darwin, etc) to catch a return empty low loader etc heading to Adelaide.
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Reply By: Echucan Bob - Tuesday, Jul 08, 2014 at 10:06

Tuesday, Jul 08, 2014 at 10:06
Ken

What about getting a tow into Alice?

Save $3000.

Bob
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Reply By: Member - Scott M (NSW) - Tuesday, Jul 08, 2014 at 10:58

Tuesday, Jul 08, 2014 at 10:58
"truck fright company" is probably what it will be after you see the bill.

Seriously, most of the hire places have local haulage companies to retrieve vehicles - they would know - either way it's not going to be cheap...
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Reply By: ken w4 - Tuesday, Jul 08, 2014 at 11:11

Tuesday, Jul 08, 2014 at 11:11
Have had a price so far from ayres rock to Alice, $1800. And then to Adelaide a further $2300. Yep it's a really crap thing to happen and costly and then to put a new motor in$$$$.
But I can complain all day, but it is what it is , and nothing you can do!
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Follow Up By: garrycol - Tuesday, Jul 08, 2014 at 12:28

Tuesday, Jul 08, 2014 at 12:28
Dare I ask what engine is fitted.
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Follow Up By: pop2jocem - Tuesday, Jul 08, 2014 at 13:39

Tuesday, Jul 08, 2014 at 13:39
$1800 for a 100 k tow...and here's me thinking we had seen the last of the Kelly gang.

Just a thought but would it be possible or feasible to hire a suitable tow vehicle 4wd of some sort and a car trailer in Alice. Tow the car back to Alice.
Then go back without the car trailer and tow the van back.

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Pop
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Follow Up By: Member - Scott M (NSW) - Tuesday, Jul 08, 2014 at 14:02

Tuesday, Jul 08, 2014 at 14:02
"and here's me thinking we had seen the last of the Kelly gang." - it's fairly well known that remote recovery consists of:

1. a hiring fee (drivers time / hourly rate) plus
2. a per km distance rate plus
3. fuel costs

it all adds up. We came across a couple of German tourists in a high top 70 series that blew the gear-box on the Plenty Highway just past the border (see pic). Suspect it was one of those 70's that had the hilux box - could only go in reverse. A local road repair crew kindly put them up and towed the vehicle to the base camp a few k's down the road and organised for them to call the hire company in WA. They dropped them like a hot potato. The truckie was from Alice so he new the local agent who did the right thing and organised for a flat-top to come out and pick them up (under the original hire agreement) - we met the recovery guy in Gemtree on his way out - asked him how much ? - about $3500 for the effort including the above.

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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Wednesday, Jul 09, 2014 at 02:05

Wednesday, Jul 09, 2014 at 02:05
Ularu to Alice is a lot more than 100 Km's, it's actually about 470 kms.

Tow truck, Alice to Ularu and back is close to 1000 Km's @ $2- a km the price of $1,800- is reasonable.

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Follow Up By: pop2jocem - Wednesday, Jul 09, 2014 at 12:17

Wednesday, Jul 09, 2014 at 12:17
OK if that's the going rate then that's it. So is it possible to hire a suitable vehicle and car trailer in Alice and do what I suggested?
I'm not familiar with what's available but when you are looking at the dollars involved I would consider all options.
Even maybe take the van to a CP in Alice and continue on to Adelaide or wherever with the car on a car trailer.
Dunno, just saying.
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Reply By: Bob Y. - Qld - Tuesday, Jul 08, 2014 at 11:19

Tuesday, Jul 08, 2014 at 11:19
Ken,

Check out thread 83740. One reply from Angus says he got a small car freighted down south for $900. Central Australian Removals organised it all.

Most of the car transporter companies don't want any contents in the vehicles.

I would try Toll/NQX too, they would often have vehicles coming into Qld from Darwin. No doubt they would also be doiing Darwin-Alice-Adelaide.

Hope you get something sorted, and with minimum stress,

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Reply By: Slow one - Tuesday, Jul 08, 2014 at 11:51

Tuesday, Jul 08, 2014 at 11:51
Ken,
try outback recovery Alice springs and you may also want to ring Britz in the Alice, yesterday I saw one of their large campers being loaded onto a tilt tray at their yard.
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Follow Up By: Slow one - Tuesday, Jul 08, 2014 at 11:59

Tuesday, Jul 08, 2014 at 11:59
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Reply By: olcoolone - Tuesday, Jul 08, 2014 at 13:31

Tuesday, Jul 08, 2014 at 13:31
I think it would be cheaper to get it towed to Alice, fly home, get the work done in Alice and fly back to pick it up.

The other option is put it on rail or find a company close to your city who runs Darwin and wait and see if they can backload it.
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Follow Up By: Echucan Bob - Tuesday, Jul 08, 2014 at 14:20

Tuesday, Jul 08, 2014 at 14:20
In retrospect, it would have been better if the engine had caught fire, which rapidly spread to the jerry cans of petrol stored in the car etc etc

Just make sure you have comprehensive insurance and its up to date.

Bob
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Follow Up By: olcoolone - Tuesday, Jul 08, 2014 at 17:55

Tuesday, Jul 08, 2014 at 17:55
It's no good if the owner puts a value of $30,000 over market value and the insurance company only pays out market value.
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Follow Up By: Echucan Bob - Wednesday, Jul 09, 2014 at 08:54

Wednesday, Jul 09, 2014 at 08:54
I suspect that right now the owner would happily accept "market value".
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Reply By: allein m - Tuesday, Jul 08, 2014 at 14:34

Tuesday, Jul 08, 2014 at 14:34
what a bummer have you got any road service .

I know what it is like I blew 2 tires exactly 100k out of Broken hill and had to be towed and that cost a lot, lucky I had RAA premium service I do not go out as much as before and I cringe every time I pay the $170 but it pays in the long run

I can suggest Peter kittle Toyota they have a Alice to Adelaide car transport service not idea of cost

They have a yard in Alice springs

I can only hope it all works out and is as cheap as posible
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Follow Up By: allein m - Tuesday, Jul 08, 2014 at 17:55

Tuesday, Jul 08, 2014 at 17:55
There was a ABC show a little while back Bush Mechanics now they are some where close to the big rock give them a ring they can fix almost any thing

video
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Reply By: pepper2 - Tuesday, Jul 08, 2014 at 17:12

Tuesday, Jul 08, 2014 at 17:12
Ken sorry to hear of your problems, but can you confirm which motor it is, and if possible what is the diagnosis or symptions ?
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Reply By: ken w4 - Tuesday, Jul 08, 2014 at 21:18

Tuesday, Jul 08, 2014 at 21:18
Have had a pretty good result so far I think , don't wanna post price as yet until it happens haha.
Has been stress free.
It was a zd 30 , seemed to have popped a ring as I lost power/compression straight away and started blowing smoke and lots then pop oil everywhere.
Wouldn't even think of a replacement motor compared to freight, as I have a ls3 at home in the garage and the zd 30's just hmmm yeah.
Follow it on Facebook www.facebook.com/embracingoz as I will be posting the entire result start to finish on there.
A personal page.
Embrace oz
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Follow Up By: Graeme - Wednesday, Jul 09, 2014 at 14:38

Wednesday, Jul 09, 2014 at 14:38
Been there and done that. I had a ZD30 Patrol which blew just north of Sydney and about $13000 later it was on the road again.
Ken, I feel for you where you are and only hope you get it sorted out without throwing a bucket load of money at it.
We could not trust the Patrol after that and got a new 4x4 which was the best thing for us.
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Reply By: Albany Nomads - Wednesday, Jul 09, 2014 at 11:47

Wednesday, Jul 09, 2014 at 11:47
Yep I blew a spark plug out of number 3 cylinder in my rodeo v6 petrol/LPG only 3 months ago
Stripping the thread out of the head ..in SA on the way home to Albany in WA.
Luckily I had RAC ultimate plus and covered the cost to get it transported home ... While the premiums may seem high you will be great ful to have the insurance coverage when things go pear shape
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Follow Up By: Zippo - Wednesday, Jul 09, 2014 at 18:24

Wednesday, Jul 09, 2014 at 18:24
I'm interested in that cover. In the RAC "glove box" guide they say that regardless of which level of cover you select, outside WA you only get the basic/standard cover. I may have to ask them that specific question in writing, just in case we have a similar stroke of misfortune.
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Follow Up By: Albany Nomads - Wednesday, Jul 09, 2014 at 21:26

Wednesday, Jul 09, 2014 at 21:26
Zippo posted:
I'm interested in that cover. In the RAC "glove box" guide they say that regardless of which level of cover you select, outside WA you only get the basic/standard cover. I may have to ask them that specific question in writing, just in case we have a similar stroke of misfortune.

I think you will find Zippo that with your WA RAC breakdown policy as long as you have ultimate or ultimate plus..you have whats called an out of pocket expense limit
With Ultimate I think its $3k/year and with Ultimate plus its $7k/year and its this figure that covers the cost of your vehicle recovery from interstate. (so dont breakdown interstate twice in one year :-) )

RAC wa were excellent, they arranged a vehicle transporter to bring my vehicle back to WA to my chosen destination, it came back on a multi vehicle transporter and all cost were covered as it came under my out of pocket expense limit. (Ultimate plus)

Got my value from the policy and will definetly be renewing next year
All up from time of calling them to seeing the car again back home took approx 10 days
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Reply By: 2000 Red Rodeo - Wednesday, Jul 09, 2014 at 17:22

Wednesday, Jul 09, 2014 at 17:22
Hi, sorry to hear of your bad luck.

I have been there and done it at Innaminca. Blew a head on the Rodeo. Only time it has ever let me down. Thanks Murphy.

Assuming your from Vic. If you have top racv cover, call them and let them sort it out. They'll pick up towing and accommodation, etc.

If not My advise would be this. Speak to locals to find out who delivers goods to their area. Then call that transport company about whether they would do a back load. I paid $1000 from Innaminca to Adelaide after being quoted upto $7k by others.

Personally i would get the car home asap. The plan now is to minimise the cost. At least once home you stop spending on accommodation and travel costs. And you dont have to fly back to get it.

Also at home you have more control over the cost of repair and can research all options.

I wont tell you what the total cost of my bad luck cost. You would only cry. Needless to say i have top racv cover now.

All the best with it.

Regards

Geoff
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Reply By: howesy - Wednesday, Jul 09, 2014 at 18:52

Wednesday, Jul 09, 2014 at 18:52
ZD30 cut your losses and strip it sell it for what ever you can get and put it toward a new car, you are going to end up spending more than the car is worth to still have a grenade under the bonnet.
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Follow Up By: JR - Wednesday, Jul 09, 2014 at 19:42

Wednesday, Jul 09, 2014 at 19:42
Nissan sel new short motors pretty cheap, local dealer should be good at swapping them over. Unless your going to repower it you will need to get it goong or it isnt worth anything much.
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Reply By: Chargergirl76 - Thursday, Jul 10, 2014 at 14:24

Thursday, Jul 10, 2014 at 14:24
We had issues on our trip last year and had a bit of mechanical work done in Alice Springs and every person we dealt with there were amazing, quick and reasonably priced. Both the mechanics and auto sparky went out of their way to help us and get us back on the road asap. If you could get a new motor sorted, I might be cheaper to be towed to Alice?

Also, do you have NRMA/RACQ? A friend blew their motor in Cape York recently and RACQ were great in helping with costs of flights, hire car, accommodation etc.
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Reply By: Cyberess - Friday, Jul 11, 2014 at 00:14

Friday, Jul 11, 2014 at 00:14
Best bet is get your vehicle to Alice Springs the cheapest way you can.. Check with your motoring club like the RACV.. depending which state your from, maybe they can help in some way.

If you do get your vehicle to Alice Springs, it's quite cheap to get you vehicle to go south for some reason..

E.G. get in on the Ghan with motor railAlice Springs - Adelaide $499
http://www.greatsouthernrail.com.au/site/the_ghan/taking_your_car.jsp and yes they will freight with the trailer attached.

Best of luck.

Cheers
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Reply By: krimnl - Friday, Jul 11, 2014 at 21:49

Friday, Jul 11, 2014 at 21:49
Do you not have premium roadside assistance..
I cant believe anyone would travel without it.

I know some roadside assistance covers the driver and not the car..... if you have a mate traveling with you that has this cover then they can make the call for you and say they were driving ? or fly someone in that has it ? Just a few ideas

but seriously people... if you travel our great country then get premium roadside assistance.
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