worn tyres

Submitted: Wednesday, Jul 09, 2014 at 23:12
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Hi All
Both tyres on my camper are worn about the first two inches on the out side.
Not sure what has caused it.
The camper has done a lap around Aus and was fine , Then done a trip to Cape York a year later and by the time we got back to Tassie had that bald edge on both tyres.
Any Thoughts.
Regards
Tony.
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Reply By: Member - Ian F (WA) - Wednesday, Jul 09, 2014 at 23:17

Wednesday, Jul 09, 2014 at 23:17
Hi Tony, is it a single axle or independent suspension?
Ian
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Follow Up By: Tony B3 - Thursday, Jul 10, 2014 at 20:03

Thursday, Jul 10, 2014 at 20:03
HI Ian
It is a single axle out of a ford with the brakes and lines attached.
I put shocks under it before Cape York.
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Reply By: Shaker - Wednesday, Jul 09, 2014 at 23:17

Wednesday, Jul 09, 2014 at 23:17
Might help if you say what suspension you have!

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Follow Up By: Tony B3 - Thursday, Jul 10, 2014 at 20:11

Thursday, Jul 10, 2014 at 20:11
Hi Shaker
Yeah sorry about that.
It is a single axle off a ford car with all the brake setup on it.
It fit straight under my camper trailer I put shocks under camper
before we went to Cape York.
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Follow Up By: Ross M - Thursday, Jul 10, 2014 at 20:24

Thursday, Jul 10, 2014 at 20:24
What Ford car is it from? Is it a rear axle and the diff has been removed?
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Follow Up By: Tony B3 - Thursday, Jul 10, 2014 at 20:50

Thursday, Jul 10, 2014 at 20:50
Not sure what ford it was, but it was front wheel drive so no rear diff.
The bloke had the axle ready for me to pick up. The axle has a natural bend each end. I now think both wheels are toeing inwards.
Thanks.
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Reply By: Garry E1 - Thursday, Jul 10, 2014 at 00:05

Thursday, Jul 10, 2014 at 00:05
Hi Tony, You do not state what kind of suspension you have on your van.
If it is an axle, the may be bent.
To check this you need a straight edge about a metre long & place it on all sides of the axle.
If get a side where you can see light through the axle will be bent.
If this is the case the best answer is to get a new axle made but make sure it is heavier then the original axle.
If it is a independent suspension you will have to take it to a suspension expert to be checked

Garry
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Follow Up By: Tony B3 - Thursday, Jul 10, 2014 at 20:23

Thursday, Jul 10, 2014 at 20:23
Thanks Garry for your reply,
I have checked the axle and had a look to see if anything had moved ,all seems ok.
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Reply By: Ross M - Thursday, Jul 10, 2014 at 09:41

Thursday, Jul 10, 2014 at 09:41
It sounds as if it has a solid axle and that has taken a hit near the middle of the axle and now the wheels instead of being parallel to each other, are now toeing INWARDS which will quickly evaporate the rubber off the outer edges as they scrub sideways down the road.

Tyres like to roll and not be used as erasers.

If worn as you say it should be possible to see the toe in by looking discerningly at each wheel face and it's relationship to parallel with the sides of the camper.

Checks like mentioned above are a good way to find the where on the axle it is bent
The bend will be either backwards or upwards or a combination of both directions.
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Follow Up By: Tony B3 - Thursday, Jul 10, 2014 at 20:40

Thursday, Jul 10, 2014 at 20:40
Hi Ross
Thanks,
Yes you are right it is a solid axle out of a ford and yeah now I come to think of it, one day when I was looking at it I thought it looked like it was toeing inwards . I will investigate further.
Thanks.
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Reply By: doug v - Thursday, Jul 10, 2014 at 18:22

Thursday, Jul 10, 2014 at 18:22
put a string line down parallel to the sides of the camper and see how much difference between front and rear of tyre
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Follow Up By: Tony B3 - Thursday, Jul 10, 2014 at 20:55

Thursday, Jul 10, 2014 at 20:55
Hi Doug
Thanks mate will try and see what the difference is.
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Follow Up By: Aussi Traveller - Thursday, Jul 10, 2014 at 21:10

Thursday, Jul 10, 2014 at 21:10
Lift the camper off the ground, using a sharp object, eg: a screwdriver, scribe a line around each tyre. then with the help of someone measure the distance between the front and the back off the tyre, this will give you an indication as to toe in or out of the wheels and whether you have a bent axle or not.

Phil
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Follow Up By: Tony B3 - Thursday, Jul 10, 2014 at 23:47

Thursday, Jul 10, 2014 at 23:47
Hi Phil
I think I understand what you mean measure the front of one tyre to the front of other. Will give it a try.
Thanks mate.
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Reply By: fisho64 - Thursday, Jul 10, 2014 at 21:15

Thursday, Jul 10, 2014 at 21:15
just get the tyres removed and reversed on the rims
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Follow Up By: Tony B3 - Thursday, Jul 10, 2014 at 23:54

Thursday, Jul 10, 2014 at 23:54
Hi Fisho64
I will be reversing the tyres because they are near new.
Thanks mate.
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Reply By: The Bantam - Sunday, Jul 13, 2014 at 09:30

Sunday, Jul 13, 2014 at 09:30
You got a bent axle, chum...no doubt about it.

You have a axle out of a pasenger car designed for " improved surfaces" and you have been up the cape.
Hardly surprising

cheers
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Follow Up By: Tony B3 - Sunday, Jul 13, 2014 at 18:32

Sunday, Jul 13, 2014 at 18:32
Yea I know Bantam but you would think it would be stronger than the 40mmx40mm that was under it. But that is ok, now I know I have a bent axle I will replace it.

Thanks Bantam.

cheers
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