Anderson Pug Alternative
Submitted: Thursday, Aug 14, 2014 at 21:41
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Member - mepvic
Hi all.
Have just returned from a 3-1/2 month trip up to
Cape York, Arnhem Land,
Darwin and back down to
Melbourne via Mt Isa,
Birdsville and
Broken Hill. Great trip towing a camper trailer.
Had to refit the Anderson plug on the trailer twice as it worked loose and rubbed on the ground completely destroying it. Ended up with a spring and a few cable ties to hold it in position.
Seems that once they get a bit of dirt or water in them, the contacts don't clip in to each other as good as they should.
I have tried the original Anderson plug and the look a likes from ABR Sidewinder and others but still have a problem with the plugs not clicking into each other after a month or so of hard work.
Does anyone know of an alternative that can handle dirt, dust, stones and water a bit better?
Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Thursday, Aug 14, 2014 at 22:31
Thursday, Aug 14, 2014 at 22:31
Hi Mepvic,
Have you considered the weatherproof covers that are available, to limit the amount of dirt etc., getting into the connectors?
I recently did a 10,500k trip from
Adelaide to the
Kimberley and back, including some very rough tracks and river crossings.
No problem at all from the Anderson connections which by the way are the best available for higher current circuits.
If dirt or other crap does get in, they are pretty easy to clean.
The pins can be released from the housing, the pins and housings flushed and cleaned if necessary and the pins reinserted with nothing more than a small screwdriver to move the spring retainers.
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Follow Up By: Member - mepvic - Friday, Aug 15, 2014 at 20:48
Friday, Aug 15, 2014 at 20:48
Thanks Bill. Have not considered any covers as they are mainly for unconnected plugs. Releasing pins is no problem on the trailer plug but a pain in the bum on the car connector. I also use a blade on my Swiss Army knife to pull the contacts back a bit. Even though the spring is still behind the raised section of the contact, they move back into the body a bit.
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Reply By: The Bantam - Friday, Aug 15, 2014 at 08:56
Friday, Aug 15, 2014 at 08:56
Just a couple of things to think about.
Thousands of people are using anderson connectors for this sort of purpose without incident....they are very robust and cope
well with dirt dust and water within reason.
Perhaps part of the problem is where the anderson plug is mounted on the tow vehicle and the attitude that it is mountred ...any plug no matter will have issues if it is mounted in harms way, or in a manner that
places undue strain on it.
Perhaps part of the problem is how the plug and cable have been installed on the trailer.....maybe there is excess cable hanging unsupported ....or some other reason why the cable is not managed
well placing excess stress on the connection....if the cable is long enough and free to drag on the road....that is an indication to me that it is either too long or needs support
These plugs are not designed to be positivly restrained in the socket...and on a trailer neither do you want them to be.
So the connection needs to be managed so that undue stress does not pull the plug out.
as others have mentioned there are shrouds, housings and handles available to fit anderson plugs...the shrouds and housings may help with the plugs getting full of rubbish.....which can be a problem with the bare connector........in many of the clean application these shrouds and housing are not required...perhaps these should be used more on vehicles..........the handles are an indicator that some people seem to thing they are hard to pull out and need an handle attached.
As far as clicking togther...um from my knoweledge and experience andersons don't "click togeter", they push together and are held together pretty
well by friction alone.
cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - mepvic - Friday, Aug 15, 2014 at 21:04
Friday, Aug 15, 2014 at 21:04
Thanks Bantam. Plugs are
well positioned and now have bungy straps, cable ties and springs holding it all in place. The spring is on the cable plug and loops into a cable tie on the bracket mount of the fixed plug. Will break away if required.
Plugs and shrouds are not the answer when travelling but would be ok without the trailer. Live in the city so not much chance of dirt getting into the contact. Usually replace all plugs when the big trips are finished anyway.
With clean plugs, you do get to feel, and hear, a click as the contacts slide over each other and lock in place.
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Follow Up By: The Bantam - Saturday, Aug 16, 2014 at 00:03
Saturday, Aug 16, 2014 at 00:03
the shrouds and houshings cover the back of the plug.
One of the issues with the anderson plugs is they are an open frame, there has been no attempt to seal the back of the plug so all sorts of crap gets thru the back of the plug.
As I said....there may be some mild sensation as the connector bottoms when new and there is a bit of over ramping in the contacts....but andersons do not lock..they are specifically designed not to.
if you have a dirt problem serioulsy look at the housings ( backshells) and shrouds.
A back shell on the vehicle connector and a shround on the flying lead on the trailer.
cheers
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Reply By: Rangiephil - Friday, Aug 15, 2014 at 14:52
Friday, Aug 15, 2014 at 14:52
If you continually have the problem, why not think a bit laterally and use a 7 pin flat trailer plug and split the heavy duty wire over 3 contacts each for positive and negative. Cheap as chips, you can get em anywhere and 3 contacts would equal 50 amps easy. Just don't mix up the indicator trailer plug with that one!LOL Maybe paint it red or you could use one round one flat.
The flat trailer plugs have a positive lock and I have never had or seen one come apart.
Funny re the Anderson. I was camped at
Mornington Wildlife sanctuary on the GRR and I saw the bloke camped next to me fiddling with his trailer. He almost kissed me when I told him I had a spare Anderson he could have, and gave me a bottle of wine as his had dropped out and self destructed on the way in..
So that spare Anderson plug earned its keep.
Regards Philip A
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Follow Up By: Member - mepvic - Friday, Aug 15, 2014 at 21:13
Friday, Aug 15, 2014 at 21:13
Had considered that idea. Might stick to the Anderson plug one more time.
Pity I wasn't with you at the Sanctuary. I had 10 plugs. We could have had a great night with 10 bottles of wine.
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Reply By: Member - Frank P (NSW) - Wednesday, Aug 20, 2014 at 17:33
Wednesday, Aug 20, 2014 at 17:33
Some years ago I had an Anderson fall out, leaving me with two stumps of copper wire. I did an on-road repair with a spare and used a cable tie to hold the two parts together to be sure, to be sure. But inconvenient to disconnect!
At the next town I got some tension springs at a hardware store and made my own retainer:

Anderson retainer
Simple, not pretty, but it has never let me down in four years.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - mepvic - Wednesday, Aug 20, 2014 at 21:16
Wednesday, Aug 20, 2014 at 21:16
Thanks Frank. I've now connected a spring also, wire tied to the trailer cable and a hook on the spring at the other end that loops over another wire tie, loosely fitted into the bracket holding the car plug. I gather you have a bolt that the spring hooks onto at the car end.
Do you have air shockers? Looks like a couple of valves above the plug. I'm going to relocate my plug onto a bracket that will also be used for my air shock valves.
Looks like you also have a cover for the plug when not in use.
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Follow Up By: Member - Frank P (NSW) - Wednesday, Aug 20, 2014 at 21:51
Wednesday, Aug 20, 2014 at 21:51
Mepvic,
Yes, I used long mounting bolts to make anchors for
the springs. I used two springs to ensure enough tension.
The springs are captive on the trailer Ando and hook onto the long mounting bolt at the car Ando. I filed a groove at the bottom of the bolt at the car end to retain
the springs but in reality the threads on the bolt stop
the springs slipping. The groove is extra insurance.
I have air bags - the valve you can see is one of two.
I also have a cover as you've noted, but it's been knocked off by flying
debris (I presume) since the photo.
Cheers
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Reply By: Slow one - Wednesday, Aug 20, 2014 at 19:08
Wednesday, Aug 20, 2014 at 19:08
If you mount the anderson plug on a flat plate and mount the anderson plug so the plate ends at it's front edge, you will find that when you push the other anderson plug receptical into it, there is enough friction between it and the plate so it will never fall out. In fact you will have to install a tee handle on the plug to get it out. I have to force
mine in and pull like hell to get it out.
I leave
mine open to the elements and hose it out when it gets full of crud, as ocoolone said, I always solder
mine to reduce corrosion.
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Follow Up By: Member - mepvic - Wednesday, Aug 20, 2014 at 21:17
Wednesday, Aug 20, 2014 at 21:17
Wondered why there are Tee handles on the market. Might look at that idea also. Thanks.
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