Tuesday, Sep 16, 2014 at 11:13
Don't expect much help from .......... We bought an off road windup camper from them through their WA retailer about 10 or 12 years ago and it was a good bit of equipment.
Well made with quality fittings.
We sold it some time later and bought a Wndsor van off the same retailer.
A couple of years ago after having had a hard floor camper for 5 years we decided to go back to a van and off we go again to the same people having had reasonable service from them in the past.
We settled on another .......... with an off road
suspension upgrade but without the offered bog/shower next to the table......
Anyway, retailer all smiles and handshakes as they all are when you've parted with your hard earned........until we took it back after just a couple of short on road trips with very bad tyre wear on the nearside.
Retailer not interested and offered no assistance whatsoever even though the thing was under warranty.
Fast forward a bit and Consumer Affairs WA involvement and .......... supplied a new tyre and new shocks as one was defective and we thought this would cure the problem.
It didn't. It didn't cure the pelmets dropping off or the cupboards and drawers opening while we drove either.
We found out quite by chance from someone who saw the van as we slowly pulled away from them that the wheels appeared badly buckled. Had this checked out and 2 of the 3 were so bad they couldn't be balanced. No damage to them at all apart from a bit of gravel rash.
Back to the retailer (in all our dealings with them about various faults not once did .......... ever answer e-mails from us) and was told to "get out of my yard" by the old owner (now deceased) who just dismissed everything as mis-use, abuse, neglect, anything rather than attempt to assist in finding the cause.
Consumer Affairs WA were involved from the start and negotiated the new tyre and shocks but wouldn't get involved any further when things didn't get better.
So we took action against the retailer through the small claims court to get new wheels and recompense for all the expence of finding what was wrong with the van.
......... paid up immediately but the retailer was still saying "we wouldn't have paid"!
Another incident was with the curtain lining material....holes all through them and obviously not the "moth eaten" cause as said by the retailer.
......... eventually sent us new replacements all bound up so tightly in a rubbish bag they had to be washed and ironed to get the wrinkles out before use.
Now that's the attitude shown throughout the van industry to their customers and unless others take the same sort of action as we did, it'll continue.
What an attitude to people who've bought 2 new RVs from the same manu and 3 in total from the same retailer!
Good luck with getting something done.
AlanH.
PS. Forgot to say that throughout all this the retailers service people tried hard but if it requires anything other than silicone or a bit of a touch up they can't do anything.
PPS. The new balanced wheels have cured the pelmets dropping off and other faults as
well.
And I'm going to try to get something done through my local MP about smartening up things for us who happen to fall foul of the "couldn't careless get lost attitude" which seems to be rife amongst the RVMAA lot.
All our complaints are
well documented with all e-mails etc kept as evidence.
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Follow Up By: John and Regina M - Tuesday, Sep 16, 2014 at 15:08
Tuesday, Sep 16, 2014 at 15:08
You didn't mention dust.
So what has your post got to do with keeping dust out of a van?
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Follow Up By: SosnSandi - Tuesday, Sep 16, 2014 at 15:30
Tuesday, Sep 16, 2014 at 15:30
I'm feeling your pain Alan, we too purchased in WA, I'm guessing from the same retailer. We have been having problems getting other problems sorted through them as
well. A week after we purchased our camper my parents bought off them too...and had problems when they received their van, you would think they would be more helpful when a family spends that kind of money... But apparently not.
Thanks for the info.
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Follow Up By: ian.g - Tuesday, Sep 16, 2014 at 15:34
Tuesday, Sep 16, 2014 at 15:34
John & Regina M If it had all those problems I can bet it also had dust problems.
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Follow Up By: AlanTH - Tuesday, Sep 16, 2014 at 17:50
Tuesday, Sep 16, 2014 at 17:50
Bit of dust too but not much as the
Cook has sealed all openings except the fridge where a bit comes in underneath.
My post was really to point out the attitude of "we've got yer money eff off" of these people.
I've had a warning letter from the retailers solicitor but as it's all documented it's only the truth so I'm not bothered.
I'm quite happy to go to court and tell our story.
The new wheels have cured the problems ....tyre wear and bits falling off etc. and we're now reasonably happy with the van.
But what an attitude from both the retailer (over a 100K spent) and the maker (approx 65K) to people who've spent over a 100 grand in total with them.
Do you think that's acceptable? Did you see the TDT the other week with the people who'd bought large Oz built motor homes? Totally ignored by the maker apparently.
This slap dash building of expensive rec equipment would never be allowed if it were a car, so why should these bleep s get away with it?
What about a helpful attitude of assistance after we've spent our money instead of "get out of my yard" which is what we got?
Have you tried Consumer Affairs WA SonsandSandi? If people don't get stuck into them they'll keep doing it.
Good luck.
AlanH.
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