Thursday, Sep 18, 2014 at 16:15
Interesting, a great leap in mobile phone use fine (good) and obviously for rat runners going through
no entry signs.
Agree, not enough patrol cars on the roads, it's like the serial road infringers can spot a camera a mile off, and slow down through it.
Patrols are needed to catch them (besides all the other little bad habits out there).
Covert cameras generally catch the very low tolerance ones going 2km/hr to under 9km/hr over . . . while I agree 9 over is a bit high around 60 zones, most people sometimes go a few ks over and adjust back when they notice, and sometimes you can just be unlucky.
A few years ago, SA followed Victorias lead and went from a tolerance of around 10% to a tolerance believed to be a couple of ks over . . . this would make up a huge number of those getting caught here.
Oh, yeah they're called CLIENTS here, lol.
Tell you what though, I have noticed drivers in general driving slower throughout the metro and country areas of SA, so cameras probably have adjusted drivers behavior somewhat since their introduction.
Really though, lucky you in WA with those low tolerance speed fine amounts, compared to SA fines :/
Speeding - not more than 9kmh over - $159 + VOC levy $60 = $219 (2 points)
Speeding - between 10kmh and 19kmh over - $349 + VOC levy $60 = $409 (3 points)
. . . and for the real speedsters out there . . .
Speeding - between 20kmh and 29kmh over - $709 + VOC levy $60 = $769 (5 points)
You really DON'T want to know the next 2 levels :/
AND Road trains are up to 120% higher $ penalty.
Agree, be careful out there, stay within the arbitrary limits set, pay attention to driving, rest often on long hauls, and wait for good opportunities to pass others on the roads.
Inattention, fatigue, and impatience are the biggest killers on our roads.
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Follow Up By: Member - Munji - Friday, Sep 19, 2014 at 08:40
Friday, Sep 19, 2014 at 08:40
The core reason why you do not see many patrol cars in WA is because there is no longer a dedicated Traffic Branch. Traffic officer numbers are down and they operate out of Police Stations and are required to perform other non traffic duties.
Level of experience and knowledge of the other traffic regulations is minimal therefore speeding /
seat belt are the obvious focus.
If people want more patrol car presence then they need to get off their butt and go complain directly to the Minster for Police because radar cameras, number of patrol cars is all dictated by Parliament. Often called funding, you know the thing that also effects health, education, pensions etc. More money is needed for non value adding things like immigration and donating money to other countries.
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Follow Up By: Les PK Ranger - Friday, Sep 19, 2014 at 08:45
Friday, Sep 19, 2014 at 08:45
Yes, we have those same issues of lack of feet on the ground in SA, very lucky to see a couple of patrols cars / bikes during the day here too.
I do see a lot more around in QLD when up there though, they seem to be everywhere.
Yes, GOVCO have endless streams of funding coming in from taxpayers, and just fritter it away of waste of time schemes, big project disasters . . . then we just get hit with more taxes to keep the cycle going !!
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Follow Up By: AlanTH - Friday, Sep 19, 2014 at 09:26
Friday, Sep 19, 2014 at 09:26
Hi Munji. There's still a dedicated traffic section but it's called the Traffic Enforcement Group.
Having lived near and worked right next door to the WA police academy I can tell you their own driving's not so flash either. Cops graduate and 90% go straight into traffic from the academy. Years ago you had to be an experienced cop before you got considered for transfer into traffic.
As a senior inspector told me "If we don't give them a pretty car to drive, they won't join". Says it all really.
And they are very reluctant to do anything except traffic jobs.
AlanH.
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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Friday, Sep 19, 2014 at 09:48
Friday, Sep 19, 2014 at 09:48
Dead right about "their" driving.
Have a yarn to old friend at the PO yesterday when one of the locals rocked up in his pretty car to get the mail.
On departing, he pulled out, immediately began to turn right at the
intersection, and not a hint of right indicator........not even one flash.
Bob
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Follow Up By: Slow one - Friday, Sep 19, 2014 at 18:20
Friday, Sep 19, 2014 at 18:20
Bob Y,
I was co-pilot in the box office of an Iveco today and the gentleman driving would indicate right when going straight through a roundabout and then not indicate off. It just blew me away.
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Follow Up By: Les PK Ranger - Friday, Sep 19, 2014 at 18:30
Friday, Sep 19, 2014 at 18:30
Yep, I see that here, people put right indicator on to enter roundabout, then just go straight through.
Nothing more annoying than that if you're going the other way (having to stop for nothing) . . . ah suppose not indicating at all and turning is the as bad or worse, nowadays, I just slow pretty
well and shadow the brakes, because so many just turn in front with no right indicator, or put it on right as they're turning !!
I'd love to see cops get onto this, as
well as general (lack of correct) indicator use for lane changes and regular turns.
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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Friday, Sep 19, 2014 at 18:35
Friday, Sep 19, 2014 at 18:35
Know what you mean, Slow!
Driving through roundabouts can be fraught with much indecision, erratic indicating(if at all) and some danger. Especially those with 2 lanes.............
Bob
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Follow Up By: AlanTH - Friday, Sep 19, 2014 at 18:36
Friday, Sep 19, 2014 at 18:36
I was a reluctant passenger with a work colleague one day......she couldn't stop gobbing off and looking at me at the same time and then we came to a roundabout.
Oh dear. Absolutely no idea how to signal! Wants to go straight ahead but signals right and then stopped.
We were in the LH lane by the way.
All other traffic also stopped as they were as confused as I was as to what she was going to do next.
I advised her to cancel her indicator and concentrate on the road ahead instead of continually gobbing off......
She left the job not long after blaming me for harassment!
She then went to the police dept in
Perth at a much higher level and I can tell you it wasn't because of her ability or intelligence. :-)
AlanH.
PS and on the
Mitchell yesterday a brand spanking very shiny Falcon with black mag wheels came on from the left and didn't bother signalling. Driver was a
young female cop busy gobbing off to her partner....
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Follow Up By: Crusier 91 - Saturday, Sep 20, 2014 at 08:08
Saturday, Sep 20, 2014 at 08:08
Here in SA you wont see the police on point duty when the traffic lights are down. It's now the lolly pop holders job.
Very odd to see.
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