WOW!! my multiple test drives (all auto)

Submitted: Tuesday, Oct 28, 2014 at 17:14
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Going on from my last post about why would you buy a Prado when a Challenger is $25,000 cheaper.

We started with the cheapest car and went up to the Prado in stages.

The car we end up also needs to be ANCAP rating 5.

Well, I test drove a Challenger for half a day and it was okay for short trips if you were going to tow a boat to the river or a weekender holiday. It had all the bells and whistles but it was rattly and uncomfortable to sit in for hours. The budget was obvious when closely looked at.

Took a Pajero GLXR and it was pretty much the same as the Challenger except wider and maybe a little quieter.

Had an Isuzu MUX for 24 hours and was similar to both of the others but has comfy seats and was a little easier to sit in for longer. My wife drove it for most of the time we were out and I was quite enjoying the car from the passenger seat. HEAPS heaps heaps,,, did I say heaps of leg room for passenger and driver alike. This car almost had me sold, until I drove it. No reach steering column, only tilt. Made for an uncomfortable long drive back for me when I had the seat waaaayyyyyyyyy back.

Finally we organised to take a Prado GXL 2013 for a drive........... Oh my god. It could have been a Mercedes. Bought one straight away. It is like the difference between Sydney Harbour Bridge and the bridge over my front yard fish pond.
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Reply By: Kazza055 - Tuesday, Oct 28, 2014 at 17:26

Tuesday, Oct 28, 2014 at 17:26
But why would you have the " seat waaaayyyyyyyyy back" if it was uncomfortable?

My D-Max is the very first car I have owned that I need to actually move the seat forward as there is just to much leg room for me. Every other car including the old Challenger I wished I could have moved it back more.

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Follow Up By: Been-Everywhereman - Tuesday, Oct 28, 2014 at 22:04

Tuesday, Oct 28, 2014 at 22:04
Because I am tall I need the seat waaayyyy back. If the steering wheel followed me back I would have been sold on the mux.
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Reply By: Manfred b - Tuesday, Oct 28, 2014 at 18:32

Tuesday, Oct 28, 2014 at 18:32
I came to a completely different conclusion. I fond Toyotas grossly overpriced, grossly under specced and the seats the worst of all the different makes. I found Mitsubishi streets ahead of the rest in terms of seating, but that‘s me - everyone is different. To say one particular make is more comfortable than the rest is silly, it just suits your specific needs better that‘s all.. I’ve found no one make is better than the rest, all have their plusses and minuses; but, in my book Toyota has far too many minuses for me to even consider.
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Reply By: garrycol - Tuesday, Oct 28, 2014 at 18:46

Tuesday, Oct 28, 2014 at 18:46
If you bought a Prado, you are easily pleased.
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Follow Up By: Steve - Tuesday, Oct 28, 2014 at 22:32

Tuesday, Oct 28, 2014 at 22:32
great contribution - he's obviously made up with the car as many others are and really needs you pi$$ing cold water all over it with your "expertise"
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Wednesday, Oct 29, 2014 at 05:20

Wednesday, Oct 29, 2014 at 05:20
The 'expertise' comes from a big Landrover chip on the shoulder.
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Follow Up By: Graeme - Wednesday, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:45

Wednesday, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:45
When I was shopping for a possible new 4x4, as my Patrol was getting on I test drove a Disco 4. Then over the next 12 months I drove a Pajero, Toyota Prado and Hilux, and Isuzu at different times.
The Isuzu was good basic, the Pajero a big step up but with NVH which irked me. (It was a hire car with 10,000km and I drove it back from Roper Bar to Darwin; gravel road and high speed bitumen). The Toyotas at various times in the mines. They were nice but stupid money for what you got. The 200 was way out of my price range, the Prado was the same money as the D4 which was superior in every way.
I have had the Disco for nearly 3 years and 80,000km later have never regretted the decision. This is MY PERSONAL decision only and will not criticise anybody for the car they buy, as only they know the things they want. All modern 4x4 are exceptionally good vehicles and will give many years of service to their owners.
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Follow Up By: Steve - Thursday, Oct 30, 2014 at 21:12

Thursday, Oct 30, 2014 at 21:12
That's it Graeme. There are some excellent vehicles around and the Disco is a beautiful car to drive. probably best of the bunch but.... old concerns die hard. The Defender is the best off-roader I've ever had but for pottering about town whilst I'm working and taxi-ing people about, towing and touring with the van and off roading, the Prado is hard to beat and suits me down to the ground. Apart from different opinions, we all actually have different requirements.
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Follow Up By: DiscoTourer - Sunday, Nov 09, 2014 at 23:02

Sunday, Nov 09, 2014 at 23:02
So true Gary.
You either a follower or a leader.
Brett....
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Reply By: Steve - Tuesday, Oct 28, 2014 at 19:27

Tuesday, Oct 28, 2014 at 19:27
Toyota might've lost their way a bit but that Prado 150 is one nice car to drive. I test drove a newie but chickened out on the money and decided on a nice used 120 with the 180 L tank and better rear storage. 150 a bit nicer to drive though - maybe because it was a newie. That was 2011.
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Follow Up By: Member - Munji - Wednesday, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:42

Wednesday, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:42
And they tend to suck in more dust than the others as well.
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Reply By: olcoolone - Tuesday, Oct 28, 2014 at 20:27

Tuesday, Oct 28, 2014 at 20:27
May make excusses why they didn't buy a vehicle thats more exspensive then the one they ended up buying...... Some excusses are warranted but many are not.

Like most things you pay for what you get.

I am sure you will get many knocking you for your decision.

Hope you have many years of happeness and enjoyment.

You made a good educated decission and if the others didn't meet your expectations and the Prado did thats all that matters.

We coped it when we bought our 200 series..... Everyone was an expert and we even lost one customer...... In their eyes we were making too much money out of them...... Oh well life goes on.
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Follow Up By: Member - eighty matey - Tuesday, Oct 28, 2014 at 21:42

Tuesday, Oct 28, 2014 at 21:42
Well said olcoolone.
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Follow Up By: AlbyNSW - Wednesday, Oct 29, 2014 at 06:10

Wednesday, Oct 29, 2014 at 06:10
Yep agree, you buy what you like and what you can justify in your own mind paying for
Everyone's needs and value for money perceptions are different

Enjoy your new ride.
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Follow Up By: Sigmund - Wednesday, Oct 29, 2014 at 09:51

Wednesday, Oct 29, 2014 at 09:51
Just be sure to change the injectors at 45k if the Prado has got *that* motor. And watch for rattle and smoke before then. Oh what a feeling.
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Follow Up By: Gronk - Wednesday, Oct 29, 2014 at 10:13

Wednesday, Oct 29, 2014 at 10:13
I had a Challenger ( 2010 ) and at the time I decided that was all I wanted to pay, and mostly it was a great 4wd.

BUT, I had never test driven a Prado, mainly because it was out of my price range, but when I did, it was without doubt a far better "car" to drive.

Quieter , rode better and offroad had slightly better articulation than the Challenger.

As for injectors etc, all 4wd's have some known issues, but hopefully as an owner you can only hope you don't get one of the problem ones..

PS ; I now have a 200 series, which is similar to the Prado, but plus a bit !!
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Follow Up By: Sigmund - Wednesday, Oct 29, 2014 at 10:51

Wednesday, Oct 29, 2014 at 10:51
Look at the pradopoint forum for stuff on the injector problem and Toyota's response. There's a lot of p*ssed off owners re Toyota's response to this avoidable problem that's been around for some years.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Thursday, Oct 30, 2014 at 21:21

Thursday, Oct 30, 2014 at 21:21
Toyota's response couldn't possibly be worse than Nissan's has been to the raft of issues with Patrol & Navara!!

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Follow Up By: Sigmund - Thursday, Oct 30, 2014 at 22:09

Thursday, Oct 30, 2014 at 22:09
Yeah?
A race to the bottom.
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Follow Up By: Steve - Monday, Nov 10, 2014 at 08:45

Monday, Nov 10, 2014 at 08:45
You lost your way Sigmund. Should've been a journalist with that gift of making a mountain out of a mole hill. First of all, on Prado point there are threads on the "problem" but how many of them have actually experienced the "problem"? Hardly any. I'm coming up to 185000 kms with mine with original injectors. Keeping an eye? Yes, but like most on that forum who have too much time on their hands discussing the end of the world, it still hasn't ended yet.
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