Speeding

Excellent idea

This has been happening in SA for quite a few months now.
We've even had stories of deek heads travelling on the wrong side of the road to avoid detection.
Fab.

Racey, those camera’s are for both point to point and instantaneous speed.

Given the size of them, their location and clear visibility, and the signage around them, you’d have to be bloody unlucky (or a moron) to get picked up by them.


http://www.camerassavelives.vic.gov.au/home/cameras/camera+systems/hume+freeway+point-to-point/


Cheers Mick

The one at Burpengary is a speed camera. The one under the bridge to the south is a traffic monitoring camera according to the sign I passed an hour ago.

No it is further north than that.

The start is near Wildhorse mtn and the end is near the Caloundra turnoff. (heading north - I think it only operates northbound)

Alan

correct with the North bound operation only...it's a speed camera where the servo is at Wildhorse Mountain (camera under the bridge aswell as another one on the service road from servo that enters onto highway) aswell as the start of time lapse for the next camera further up near Caloundra that you've mentioned. My GPS warns of the approaching camera and then starts it's time lapse average speed display as i pass by it.

Very true Baz. We purposely do another few Ks under our normal speed to build up this "buffer" if needed. Much fairer and you don't have to worry about wearing your brakes out on those long downhill parts. You can let the car run over the limit if needed.

Trucks must welcome them. No mongrel sitting (we hope) at the bottom of the hill to raise revenue.

But watch it. They can, and do, still put an on the spot camera in the middle.

"Trucks must welcome them"..... until they come across a car driver sitting under the speed limit, sitting under the speed limit introduces another range of problems and bring out the impatient drivers who over take in a dangerous area causing accidents.

Seen it to many times.

The point to point cameras do offer a grace on speed, they will not ping you if you averaged 102kph in a 100 zone.

My question also!
Seriously doubt the efficacy of the existing network, whenb, on a 100Km (almost) stretch of road between Tamworth and Gunnedah, there are at least 3 such gantries - Duncan Gay has NFI what the Libs want to do, in any case. He's as useful as a hat full of arseh0les!

Tom,
this may put it into perspective if you look at deaths per 100,000K.

World wide traffic deaths

Wow I am going to vote for you with your simple look at overtaking.

I hope you realise how far it takes a vehicle to overtake someone doing 90kph and still stay in the 100kph limit. Guess you don't do much single lane highway driving or you don't have to keep a schedule.

We have the lowest road stats for years and thinking like this will send us back into the 20th century. When most overtake, they want to spend the least time on the wrong side of the road.

pretty sure this must be Kevin Rudd incognito.
Surely there couldn't be 2 people in Australia who have such stupid ideas and prepared to go to such lengths to force them on people?

Please don't. I would like to think my voters actually understand the policies ;)

Yes, I do. Do You? To do it safely and legally, the car would need about 200m. The same car doing 110kph would need about 185 meters. Are you saying that you drive to such a close "schedule" that you need to speed to get there 15 meters sooner ??

Are you saying that we have lower road "stats" because people are rev head speeders, ignore the road rules and ignore their obligations?

Peoples attitudes have not changed. It is still "it is only illegal if you get caught". Which, these days, will happen. It is mostly cameras that have kerbed people behaviour and lowed the stats, not their nor your attitude.

If you overtake at 110kph, guess what (you like guessing don't you) there is a very, very good chance you were filmed doing it. People are starting to get the message that they are being filmed. From speed and red light cameras, to safety and radar cameras, to car "black box" cameras, to the kid sitting in the back seat with a smart phone, you are being filmed and recorded. That is what has lowed the stats. You have been caught before you even do the deed.

Let me guess.
You are over 60
You are retired
You were a mid level public servant maybe
You tow a caravan
You head north in the winter

To start with yes I had to keep schedules and drive long hours.

Now I see you don't do much driving on single lane 100kph roads.

Like I said your reply was very simple, you stick to your 95 and I will stick to my dollar and when I pass I will be spending as little time on the wrong side of the road as possible. I also have had a clean licence for many many years.

Here is a quote and this may change you math calcs. Look at the real distances of a vehicle overtaking a truck. Read it carefully.

Quote "Fact. Trucks travelling at the new open road speed limit of 90 kph will be almost impossible to pass legally. A 90 kph speed limit for heavy trucks and 100 kph for other traffic is practicable.
A car passing a truck travelling at 90 kph will require almost 2 kilometres of clear road ahead if the car observes the rigidly enforced 100 kph limit and the 2 second separation rule before overtaking.

The impact will be that drivers either break the law or effectively the open road speed limit will be reduced to 90 kph.

Calculation

Based on Truck and 90 kph, 2 sec separation beforehand, 10 metre clearance at end, allowing for oncoming traffic at 100kph + 10% clearance of that:

90 kph = 90,000/3600 = 25 metres/sec.

100 kph = 100,000/3600 = 27.8 metres/sec

Distance to pass = (2 x 25) + (Length of Truck) + 10 + (Length of Car)

Say car is 5 metres, truck is 20 metres, then

Relative distance to pass = 50 + 20 + 10 + 5 = 85 metres

Time to pass = 85 metres / 2.8 metres/sec = 30.4 seconds

Distance travelled to pass = 27.8 * 30.4 = 844 metres

Clear distance required to oncoming traffic = (844 x 2) (+ 10%) = 1688 x 1.1

= 1,856 metres = 1.9 kilometres.

Time on the wrong side of the road is deadly.