Help.. Storing CD songs on USB Zip Drive.

Hi. I have searched the forums and so far havent found this topic, so i thought i would start a new one. I am trying to store random CD songs on a Zipdrive for when we are out and about with no radio reception. Does /has anyone done this succesfully . Have tried several ways as described on Youtube , but i keep getting "ERROR 01" when i try and play them in my Prado 150.
Thanks, and a Happy New Year to all, Trev .
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Reply By: Member - ACD 1 - Friday, Jan 02, 2015 at 11:34

Friday, Jan 02, 2015 at 11:34
Hi Trev

Without knowing "how" and what operating system (PC or Apple) you are trying to store the songs on the USB device it will be difficult to see what is going wrong.

Couple of things to check straight up.

1. Have you read the stereo manual to find out what the ERROR 1 message means?

2. Is the USB new - does it have a fault?

3. Is USB encrypted - does it require encryption software to read/write? If so won't work on your stereo in the Prado.

4. Can you disable the encryption on the USB if it is encrypted?

5. What format does your stereo want to read MP3 MP4 etc. - Are you writing the songs in that format to your USB?

Don't forget when you store the songs on the USB that is the order they will play on the stereo. You can use the next button to "fast forward" if you need to.

Hope this is a start.

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Reply By: Member - meatman61 - Friday, Jan 02, 2015 at 12:19

Friday, Jan 02, 2015 at 12:19
Hi Anthony.
I am using a PC. Have converted them to MP3, using Windows Media Player. Did start with a used Zipdrive. When that failed, bought a new 64GB drive and formatted it, to tick off one possible cause. Still the same. I checked the Audio section in 150 owners manual, no mention of actual error codes, so i assumed it just meant it couldnt read it. As for the encryption bit, i am not sure if there is any or not.
Thanks for the help, will see if any other Tech savvy members can pinpoint where i have gone wrong.
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Follow Up By: Member - ACD 1 - Friday, Jan 02, 2015 at 12:48

Friday, Jan 02, 2015 at 12:48
In the meantime, I will try and load some songs on a USB and see if I can get it to play.

Only problem is it will be in a 200 LC not a 150 but I think the run the same audio

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Follow Up By: TomH - Friday, Jan 02, 2015 at 13:32

Friday, Jan 02, 2015 at 13:32
Firstly a USB drive is not the same as a Zip Drive which used discs and normally got the rattle of death in a short time.

Some call USB drives Zips I guess but they are quite often called PEN drives or USB stick drives.

Up to 32 gig they can be formatted in either NTFS or Fat32 which is the normal way.
Above that they are EXFat which is different and can be a problem if device only reads Fat32. They are not normally encrypted unless you do it yourself.

You can format a 64G pen drive in Fat32 by using various software programs, one being GUI format. I use one in a dashcam which can only read Fat32 and had to reformat the 64G card with the above program.

It now works properly.

I have a 32 g SD card in my car stereo and it has 6,000 tracks on it and uses less than 18gb so you would never need a 64g USB Stick unless you were going to travel nonstop for the rest of your life LOL
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Follow Up By: Member - ACD 1 - Friday, Jan 02, 2015 at 14:24

Friday, Jan 02, 2015 at 14:24
Yes Tom you are correct.

I am assuming Trev is trying to use a USB Pen/Stick not a Zip drive.

Problem may be that 64gig is to large for the stereo to read. It worked for me in the 200 but I was using an 8 gig.

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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Saturday, Jan 03, 2015 at 10:29

Saturday, Jan 03, 2015 at 10:29
Spot on Anthony. Size, speed and protocol compatibility can sometimes be a real embuggerance. Maybe he purchased a USB 3 device that is not backwards compatible etc.

And then lets not get started on inaccuracy in describing things, formal or professional or common "nick" names and acronyms. Yuk!!

We use an old Walkman and simply plug it into the USB cable of our VMS in-dash unit. The usb cable is in the clove box. I think that we have 3 days non stop (daylight hours) mixed music on it and the VMS plays it in random order. They are all MP3 files. No conversion etc.
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Follow Up By: TomH - Saturday, Jan 03, 2015 at 11:41

Saturday, Jan 03, 2015 at 11:41
USB 3.0 stick drives are backwardly compatible with USB 2.0 devices.

I have several and they all work with all of my gear of up to 7 year old laptops etc

It does make it easier when working with computers if the correct terminology is used as there are lots of different peripherals that have come and gone.

Hard to diagnose a problem if a person is referring to something different than what they may mean.


Have had to fix a lot of "Funny blackboxes" LOL

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Follow Up By: Member - GUPATROL - Sunday, Jan 04, 2015 at 06:12

Sunday, Jan 04, 2015 at 06:12
The device (radio) may note be able to read a 64 gig its max maybe only 32 gig
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Follow Up By: TomH - Sunday, Jan 04, 2015 at 09:47

Sunday, Jan 04, 2015 at 09:47
To GU Patrol I did say that and why in followup 2 above.

If you format it in a certain way you can fool it into accepting it
(usually)

In some cases older units wont even read more than 8gig.
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Reply By: Member - allan t (NT) - Friday, Jan 02, 2015 at 13:03

Friday, Jan 02, 2015 at 13:03
Meatman61 Hi
Error 01 is no communication .
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Reply By: Bigfish - Friday, Jan 02, 2015 at 13:19

Friday, Jan 02, 2015 at 13:19
Is it capable of reading a 64 gig stick? Try a smaller size and see if that works 64 gig would hold thousands of song files...
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Follow Up By: Kazza055 - Friday, Jan 02, 2015 at 14:13

Friday, Jan 02, 2015 at 14:13
I agree with Bigfish, try a 4 or 8GB and see if that works.

MP3 is the correct way to save/rip the songs.
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Reply By: Member - bill j (VIC) - Friday, Jan 02, 2015 at 14:54

Friday, Jan 02, 2015 at 14:54
Hi are you sure the radio in the prado reads MP3 files maybe it only reads WAV files

When transfering files to a USB stick put the files into a folder. Highlight all the files to transfer right click on highlighted files look for send to in box that opens, right click that, look for name of USB stick left click on that files will then transfer.
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Follow Up By: TomH - Friday, Jan 02, 2015 at 16:19

Friday, Jan 02, 2015 at 16:19
Dont know about the Toyota but my VW says to do similar but I just loaded the 6000 tracks straight onto the card and they play fine. Can run them in random mode and most names and artists appear as well.

I think its a formatting problem
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Reply By: geo22 - Friday, Jan 02, 2015 at 16:00

Friday, Jan 02, 2015 at 16:00
There should be a user manual for the radio that will give you details of how to play music from a USB stick. Toyota radios will generally play both mp3 & WMA files. Make sure the aux button is selected & it should play OK. I couldn't find any info on Max size of USB but it could be too large capacity for the player.
Best of luck getting it going.
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Follow Up By: TomH - Friday, Jan 02, 2015 at 16:23

Friday, Jan 02, 2015 at 16:23
I have just remembered that the 100ser I had the entertainment unit actually had an MP3 logo on it nad was the first year that it did (2005).
The earlier ones didnt play MP3 apparently
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Reply By: Member - rooster350 - Saturday, Jan 03, 2015 at 10:43

Saturday, Jan 03, 2015 at 10:43
Format a usb drive to fat32,16gb is a very large drive for music..I have a 8gb with about 2.5 thousand tracks on it and set the radio to random play, it takes a very long time to hear a track twice..cheers
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Reply By: Member - meatman61 - Saturday, Jan 03, 2015 at 10:48

Saturday, Jan 03, 2015 at 10:48
Thanks to everyone for their help/input.
I don't think i had better give up my day job turning animals into barbeque meats :-)
Have managed to get the songs onto the zipdrive thing, working in the car fine, but none saved on the computer side , as they were also supposed to. Didnt matter, car one works now . Trev
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Follow Up By: TomH - Saturday, Jan 03, 2015 at 11:08

Saturday, Jan 03, 2015 at 11:08
Put your stick into your PC Go to a HDD and make a new folder and call it "Car Music" or whatever. Open your USB Stick Highlight everything Right click hit COPY

Open your HDD folder you named ???? R Click in it hit paste wait All done
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Sunday, Jan 04, 2015 at 07:53

Sunday, Jan 04, 2015 at 07:53
Good idea Tom. May I also suggest putting the new folder in the standard Windows folder called My Music.

Under My Music I have one called "Mixed songs". In that one I have a copy of all the songs on the disk that we want for the car, but NOT all the DVD and CD label, album and etc files. All songs in My Music are in folders named according to the artist/s.

I also have hours of songs I brought back from Vietnam on heaps of 8" magnetic take, with 8 hours of music on each tape. Including some albums,notably one by Jimi Hendrix, that were never released in Oz.
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Follow Up By: TomH - Sunday, Jan 04, 2015 at 09:43

Sunday, Jan 04, 2015 at 09:43
Actually I never use the Library folders as they are on the C drive.
Should Windoze die (and it will) and you have to reinstall you will lose all of that.

I have a 128gb SSD with only Windoze on it and everything else is installed on the D drive, or one of the other 3 drives I have.

That way I can format the C and reinstall Windoze in about 90 mins. I can then reinstall the other programs at my lesuire knowing that I havent lost anything.
I backup my emails weekly and also have a copy on the ISP server.

Have learnt from bitter experience not to use the C drive for storing anything you want to keep.
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Sunday, Jan 04, 2015 at 10:37

Sunday, Jan 04, 2015 at 10:37
We do something similar.

We both have external USB drives. Both of us have a 1TB that is used as a working disk and I have a 3TB one on mine as well that is used to store both our backups on. Kind of used as a mass network storage box. Simple to restore or migrate to a new computer etc.
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