Looking at getting a Nissan Patrol,

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Looking to get started in to 4WD and looing at a Toyota or a Nissan, Have dropped onto a couple and just wanted peoples opinions, as a dont want to buy a "pup'

Ive found these and will be looking at the weekend.

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/forrestfield/cars-vans-utes/1995-nissan-patrol-wagon/1068816353

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/hocking/cars-vans-utes/1996-nissan-patrol-wagon/1068949328


Thanks for your help


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Reply By: madfisher - Friday, Jan 30, 2015 at 15:19

Friday, Jan 30, 2015 at 15:19
This is the most bullet proof 4wd sold in Australia, some NA 4.2 diesels have done over 1000000ks. Just get all the usual checks done, both seem a bit pricey for age, but the first one appears in very good condition.
good Luck Pete
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Follow Up By: ChrisD75 - Friday, Jan 30, 2015 at 15:35

Friday, Jan 30, 2015 at 15:35
Thanks for the reply, spoke to a friend regards what to look at. The second one has had alot of bits done to it, would this ring alarm bells, or is it an enthusiast making the car as good as possible?

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Follow Up By: madfisher - Saturday, Jan 31, 2015 at 14:30

Saturday, Jan 31, 2015 at 14:30
I made a boo boo, not realizing one was a 2.8td, not a bad donk, but not bullet proof truck motors like the 4.2. I all ways go for pristine ones that have done little off road. I once brought a little suziki with mods, hads lots of fun, but theirs was all ways something going wrong with it.
Bog standard GQs will go further then you will be prepared to take them, and its not a huge amount to give them them a 50mm lift with new long travel springs, most of the orinigals will be sagged anyway.
cheers Pete
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Reply By: cruza25 - Friday, Jan 30, 2015 at 15:41

Friday, Jan 30, 2015 at 15:41
Hi, one is 4.2 the other is 2.8 turbo. The 2.8s are not that common so at almost 20 years old may be hard for parts.
Maybe stick to 4.2 as they are alot more mainstream.
Do a full inspect and test, if your not confident get a mechanic to do it for you or use the RAA or equivalent in your state.
cheers mike
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Follow Up By: ChrisD75 - Friday, Jan 30, 2015 at 15:58

Friday, Jan 30, 2015 at 15:58
In terms of fuel type, is the economy of a diesel out done by the cost of spares ie diesel pump is over a grand whereas a petrol pump is less than 200 dollars?
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Follow Up By: madfisher - Saturday, Jan 31, 2015 at 14:37

Saturday, Jan 31, 2015 at 14:37
I am very wary of the newer common rail diesels as fuel pumps are $5000 and injectors are $1000, but in theses older simpler trucks the diesels are hard to beat, and the fuel economy of 4.2 petrols is shocking, although one to watch out for is a 3l petrol. This motor is called and RB30, one of the best motors ever built, they are dirt cheap to buy and last forever. They used these motors in vl Commodores and also skylines. Still expect to use 16 to 18l/100 around town.
Cheers Pete
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Follow Up By: Batt's - Monday, Feb 02, 2015 at 22:37

Monday, Feb 02, 2015 at 22:37
Over the years I have found a diesel to use approx. 30% less fuel than an equivalent sized petrol this relates to older vehicles
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Reply By: alhow - Friday, Jan 30, 2015 at 17:48

Friday, Jan 30, 2015 at 17:48
Stick with the 4.2.

As for "bullet proof" the GU just pips it.
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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Friday, Jan 30, 2015 at 18:47

Friday, Jan 30, 2015 at 18:47
Bulletproof but gutless! ;) Michael
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Follow Up By: alhow - Friday, Jan 30, 2015 at 18:56

Friday, Jan 30, 2015 at 18:56
Helps in the bulletproofness I spose!

Thankfully I'm not having to suffer the gutlessness anymore with the aftermarket turbo. Transformed the car without sacrificing economy and I now don't use all it's got.

2000 with 399,000 k's
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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Friday, Jan 30, 2015 at 22:47

Friday, Jan 30, 2015 at 22:47
Im not complaining, the only thing that has failed is the alternator, it still has the original clutch and been lots of places. My original 99 has 450,000ks on it and its original except for the clutch, My ex wife still has it!! Michael
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Reply By: Batt's - Friday, Jan 30, 2015 at 22:31

Friday, Jan 30, 2015 at 22:31
The 2nd one might not be to bad the motor is clean and probably serviced well being owned by a mechanic it has a few extras it should be a positive thing if he has done the fuel pump already. The 1st one has probably spent a bit of time towing that van in the pic which is not a bad thing but it is a small 6 cylinder diesel motor and they usually don't have the life span any where near the 4.2 diesel.
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Reply By: Member - Peter G20 - Saturday, Jan 31, 2015 at 00:05

Saturday, Jan 31, 2015 at 00:05
Hi there.
I ought a 1998 GU Patrol 2.8 diesel brand new and have done over 360,000 k's which included a trip around Oz recently towing a heavy off road camper and this car never ceases to amaze me with its reliability and performance.
It is much more economical than the 4.2 model and cheaper to service as well.
The turbo and inter cooler really help it to perform well once the revs are up!

I'd recommend this model and I doubt I will be parting with mine any time soon!

Cheers
Pete
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Follow Up By: Batt's - Sunday, Feb 01, 2015 at 02:13

Sunday, Feb 01, 2015 at 02:13
Yes they are cheaper to service because the 4.2 has 2 oil filters and take about 4 lts more oil but it's a bigger motor. Just wondering how much better on fuel the 2.8 turbo is compared to the 4.2 mine has done 430,000 km been turboed converted to an extended twin cab I have 285/75/16 tyres it weighs over 2.5 t empty I was averaging 11.8 lph combined city and hwy sitting on the speed limit. Now with an aluminium canopy I average 12.5 lph which is pretty good for it's size.
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Reply By: Member - mark D18 - Saturday, Jan 31, 2015 at 08:36

Saturday, Jan 31, 2015 at 08:36
Chris

The Nissan 4.2 diesel is a fantastic motors , Its right up their with the Toyota 4.2 diesel
Both are long lasting trouble free motors. Servicing is key , 5000km intervals are preferred.

Cheers
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Reply By: snow - Saturday, Jan 31, 2015 at 21:52

Saturday, Jan 31, 2015 at 21:52
Did you buy one of those listed Chris? I see the 4.2 has sold.
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Follow Up By: ChrisD75 - Sunday, Feb 01, 2015 at 01:18

Sunday, Feb 01, 2015 at 01:18
Hi Snow typical gumtree, arranged to look Friday but when I rang to arrange on the night didn't answer texts or calls, mate rang to be told it had gone. After another weekend of searching I think ive narrowed it down the the 4.2 diesel GQ so will be checking GT often to get the latest posted.
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Reply By: snow - Sunday, Feb 01, 2015 at 19:28

Sunday, Feb 01, 2015 at 19:28
Bah, typical mate eh. Best of luck with your hunt.
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