Please suggest a $5,000 - $7,000 outback tourer?
Submitted: Sunday, Feb 08, 2015 at 19:38
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BenFraser747
Hi,
I'm looking to buy a 4x4 tourer as I plan on doing a lot of outback trips soon. My budget isn't much but being 4x4 and having long range is important to me. I'd strongly prefer an automatic for the missus to be able to drive sometimes.
So far a 90 series petrol Prado with 90L + 69L tanks seems to fit the bill but I'm just after opinions and suggestions. I'm planning on touring, not full-on 4x4 desert crossings etc. But I'd like to venture off-road a little when desired.
It'd be nice if I could put drawers in the rear with a mattress on top of the drawers and 2nd row folded.
Thank You.
Reply By: Member - Bigred13 - Sunday, Feb 08, 2015 at 21:00
Sunday, Feb 08, 2015 at 21:00
Hi Ben ,I don't like your chances in getting a 4x4 of any quality for that price , if you do it will possibly have done a lot of work and the engine may sound ok but there is a lot of other things that need to be looked at under the vehicle ,and in the outback is not the best place to find out what is broken or worn out .Now do not get me wrong , I have had a Prado 95 Series Turbo diesel with auto and it was a fantastic vehicle 269000 kms ,but I knew it was a local vehicle and the servicing had been done as it should have ,plus being a diesel ,while they are more expensive to repair than a petrol, if
well maintained they will go for years .
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Follow Up By: madfisher - Monday, Feb 09, 2015 at 20:21
Monday, Feb 09, 2015 at 20:21
Actually in 90 series the diesels are doing heads, while some petrols have racked up 450000 trouble free ks.
Cheers Pete
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Reply By: Rick (S.A.) - Sunday, Feb 08, 2015 at 22:13
Sunday, Feb 08, 2015 at 22:13
try a Pajero; your price point probably precludes a diesel. Toyotas have stong resale value compared to other makes, so factor the badge price as
well.
A dual cab might also be worth looking at. Like a Mazda or equivalent Ford, or maybe a Triton.
As far as range goes, jerrycans are the go for low capital investment regimes. And for high capital ones as we, come to think of it. They are relatively cheap and easy enough to handle for the few times a year you actuallu transfer fuel from them..
Have fun
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Reply By: BenFraser747 - Monday, Feb 09, 2015 at 09:37
Monday, Feb 09, 2015 at 09:37
I really appreciate the replies, everyone! :)
I have looked into landcruiser wagons a little previously. Finding good examples of 60s around here isn't easy, many have rust too. The occasional 80 petrol pops up and I haven't seen any with rust yet. Did Toyota better rust-protect the 80s maybe?
It is important to me that a vehicle is reliable in the outback as an unreliable vehicle can quickly turn a situation into life or death.
A dual cab ute with Jerry cans is another option I could consider - another great suggestion.
Will Prados and Jackaroos stand up to the weight of a steel bar, a couple of hundred litres of fuel, a couple of hundred litres of water and the rest of the usual gear? Will a coil 80 series for that matter?
I've read about Jackaroos having problems with their Injectors/seals and glow plugs disintegrating into the combustion chamber. Any truth to this?
A diesel Jackaroo is something I might be able to afford, assuming they're reliable. Is there much reason to stretch for a diesel? Prices seem similar at the bowser, usually in petrol's favour. Service intervals leans in the petrol's favour but diesels typically have more range.
I've spotted a cheap '92 80 GXL with the fuel injected 3F motor and the old non-electronic A440F hydraulic auto transmission. It only has a 95L tank which may cause some range anxiety but I imagine this would be a reliable vehicle (toyota), better stand up to the weight being carried, should be a reasonably easy fix if anything breaks and parts should be easy to come by.
Thanks very much, everyone! :)
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Follow Up By: MEMBER - Darian, SA - Monday, Feb 09, 2015 at 11:34
Monday, Feb 09, 2015 at 11:34
The Jackaroo is a robust carriage alright (I had a 99 SE TD for 8 years), but from 98 on, the 3.0L diesel had the serious injection problems you refer to.....a number of safety recalls, including seals and eventually whole injector replacements were staged. My readings suggest that the petrol models were virtually trouble free by comparison (member Sand Man (SA) here had a petrol Jack as I recall - maybe search the
forum for his comments). As for 200L of water and 200L of fuel...do some homework on legal payloads for vehicles you may consider......along with all the other goodies you'll need to carry, those numbers bring a trailer into consideration. Best of luck with the project.
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Follow Up By: Member - eighty matey - Monday, Feb 09, 2015 at 12:17
Monday, Feb 09, 2015 at 12:17
I would suggest looking for an 80 series petrol automatic for the price you want.
They are strong, reliable and comfortable. If something goes wrong it's often possible to fix them up enough to get somewhere and parts are also often easy to come by. Having said that, on our last trip I went looking for parts in a remote Community and they had Pajeros as the vehicle of choice for that Community.
Our 80 series diesel had over 510,000 kms on the clock and we have friends with an 80 series petrol with
well over 600,000 kms on the clock.
They are strong and roomy but an automatic petrol will use at least 20 litres per 100 kms. That's the price you pay. They have two tanks which on paper gives you 145 litres to carry but you'd be struggling to use that. If you strike one with a long range tank in the back you'll have about 240 litres capacity.
Steve
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