Follow up info on 100 series keys

Submitted: Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 18:22
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Talking to Toyota dealer (different one from where i purchased but where I now gett it serviced) today on hypothetical scenario....I have lost my keys ..what can be done?
1. Do you have the little metal tag that came with your keys which has the key codestamped on it....No!
2. Try your selling dealer to see if they recorded the No....they did not.
3. We can remove a door lock and get code as its stamped on it. ????

Rang selling dealer and was told all of above except no 3. The final offer of help from the selling dealer was ....get a new ECU, new keys as well and next time save a master in a safe place!

What goes here?

can they get the code from door lock????

Any how I am getting new masters cut and into the safe they go.....

now, what was the code to the safe??????????????????????
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Reply By: Andy - Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 18:26

Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 18:26
Geees Eskimo you've now got me worried
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Follow Up By: Member - Eskimo - Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 18:34

Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 18:34
your worried!
i'm not sure who to believe here..the selling dealer or the servicing dealer.

Servicing dealer had no hesitation in offering the 3 options so I guess I am leaning towards them. They seem to do a very good job at serving as well.

But as I said it was a hypothetical scenario to me but they didnt know that...both thought I had lost all keys
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Follow Up By: John - Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 18:38

Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 18:38
Eskimo if you took your sunnies of you might be able to see your damm keys.
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Reply By: Member - Ruth D (QLD) - Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 19:15

Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 19:15
Mr Mo - now you've got me worried. I have 100 s and sure I got four (4) keys but I don't remember a little tag. Did you lose all keys, no it was hypothetical. Is the code on the keys. Ian just went past and read this and said he read about it in the paper and the cost is approx. $2,ooo. Ahhhhh.
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Reply By: Hedonist - Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 20:19

Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 20:19
Eskimo,

Ask the locksmith. I lost all but one of my master keys and had to get replacements cut. Yes I had the tag, but toyota only supplied blanks which I had to take to a locksmith to get cut, then back to toyota to be programmed.

I think the tag code only relates to the physical shape of the key - the locksmith will be able to confirm this for you. If you don't have any valid, programmed master keys at all, then you have to replace the ECU i think (!) but not certain....

Cheers,
Pete
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Follow Up By: Member - Eskimo - Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 21:36

Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 21:36
Yeah thats right the code only relates to shape of key...after one has them cut by locksmith you have to take them back to toyota to have recoded

But Can they get the code from the door lock if one doesnt havent a master or code for cutting?
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Reply By: Member Eric - Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 20:30

Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 20:30
Eskimo , go pack afew posts I have explained it all there , even if you get stuck to task for to get done
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Follow Up By: Member - Eskimo - Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 21:37

Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 21:37
Eric I know your post but see above where i ask can they get the code from door lock?
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Reply By: Member Eric - Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 22:05

Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 22:05
The code to your door lock is with the original purchase dealer , if you ring them and give your reg or chassis number , they will give you the code
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Follow Up By: Member - Eskimo - Friday, Mar 12, 2004 at 07:55

Friday, Mar 12, 2004 at 07:55
I asked the selling dealer and they said they had not and do not (to this day) record it!

Note I have purchased 2 cars from Toyota from 2 different dealers in the last 5 yrs:
Yet the last dealer I Toyota dealer I purchased a vehicle from does record the code but this is not the car I wanted it for.)

I still come back to my question ...can they get the code from the door lock? as the 'current' servicing dealer has said
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Reply By: Willem - Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 22:32

Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 22:32
Mr Mo...you had better not get OLD TIMERS and lose your keys or your marbles for that matter. Wonder how much trouble the next model is going to be?
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Follow Up By: Member - Eskimo - Friday, Mar 12, 2004 at 07:58

Friday, Mar 12, 2004 at 07:58
Off again eh....
Tourist!!!!

Hell I cant wait till I retire so I too can get outNabout
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Follow Up By: Willem - Friday, Mar 12, 2004 at 08:59

Friday, Mar 12, 2004 at 08:59
You can retire anytime Richard.....just flog everything off and go on the wallaby. Its a good life !!!!

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Reply By: Willem - Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 22:32

Thursday, Mar 11, 2004 at 22:32
Mr Mo...you had better not get OLD TIMERS and lose your keys or your marbles for that matter. Wonder how much trouble the next model is going to be?
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Reply By: donk - Friday, Mar 12, 2004 at 09:14

Friday, Mar 12, 2004 at 09:14
Eskimo

The key code on toyota's is found in 2 places

1 Stamped on the side of ignition key barrell
2 Stamped on the rh front door lock barrell

On a 100 series this will allow you to have a blank key (imobilizer key you have purchased from toyota) cut by a locksmith so it will operate the locks but you will then need to have the key registered(coded) to the vehicle immobiliser by a toyota dealer using a original master(black head) key

If you have lost all the master keys you will have to replace more than just a key (what need to be replaced varies from model to model & is listed in a security manual that all dealers have)

Regards Don
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Follow Up By: Member - Eskimo - Friday, Mar 12, 2004 at 11:16

Friday, Mar 12, 2004 at 11:16
Don,
Thanks for that info,

So what I can now deduce is that the dealer (who sold me the first car) and who did not record the code and whom advised that I would need new ECU as well as new keys was out to RIP me off.

I am going to get stuck into the Service Manager of that dealership.
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Reply By: donk - Friday, Mar 12, 2004 at 21:33

Friday, Mar 12, 2004 at 21:33
Eskimo

Your reply worries me a bit so i will just clarify the situation

If you still have a black headed master key you can purchase additional blank keys from toyota & have them cut to suit the vehicle locks (with the code from the ign or rh front door lock barrell) & then a toyota dealer can code them so they will talk to the imobilizer & allow the vehicle to start

If you do not have a black head master key you will need to replace more than a key & this can involve replacing a ecu as well (as i said it depends on the model of the vehicle)

What worries me is that you state you have lost your keys & i don't know whether you mean all keys or just some

Hope this helps you before you talk to the service manager as he may be giving you the correct information depending on what you need

Regards Don
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Follow Up By: Member Eric - Friday, Mar 12, 2004 at 21:39

Friday, Mar 12, 2004 at 21:39
even if you loose all your keys , it can be done , get the code from the door barrel , manualy set ignition to program mode and no need to chance ecu , there just to lazy to do it , you just need to find a dealer that will do it .

Hope this helps
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Follow Up By: Member - Eskimo - Saturday, Mar 13, 2004 at 21:13

Saturday, Mar 13, 2004 at 21:13
Donk...firstly read my post ...it clearly stated that i had lost all keys was hypothetical situation.

Non the less I was given some unbeliveing solutions from a dealer's representative which was put right when rang the Service Manager.

no problems

But it was cofusing but you have clarified the hypothetical problem also

But how did Eric do this????get the info from where???
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Reply By: Phil G - Friday, Mar 12, 2004 at 22:41

Friday, Mar 12, 2004 at 22:41
I use the valet key for everyday use. If I lose the valet key, then no dramas.

Therefore I have 2 master transponder keys sitting around - one with the wife, and another stored. No need to get extra one cut.

Phil
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