80 series brakes?
Submitted: Wednesday, Mar 17, 2004 at 10:52
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charlie
I just called the blokes at parts to get some idea of cost of rotors and calipers. What I thought was the case was that when the 80 series went from 15 inch to 16 inch wheels that they also increased the diameter of the rotors and changed the calipers. Bloke in parts looked it up and told me that they were the same size all the way through the whole 80 series.
Does anyone know for sure what the facts are and where I might be able to track down some second hand in Brisbane/South Queensland. I have gone to 16 inch wheels recently and would like some extra stopping power.
Reply By: Member - Captain (WA) - Wednesday, Mar 17, 2004 at 11:20
Wednesday, Mar 17, 2004 at 11:20
I had the 15" 80 series and when my mate borrowed my tyres for his 16" 80 series they would not rotate when installed. The brake caliper bound on the rim, not noticeable as you put the tyre on, but once the nuts were tightened the wheel would not turn. So there was definently an increase somewhere.
Cheers
Mark
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Follow Up By: Member - Captain (WA) - Wednesday, Mar 17, 2004 at 11:23
Wednesday, Mar 17, 2004 at 11:23
Forgot to add I had drum rears, disc front while the 16" were discs all round. He tried the 15" rim front and back and neither fitted.
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Reply By: Davoe - Wednesday, Mar 17, 2004 at 11:48
Wednesday, Mar 17, 2004 at 11:48
you can get aftermarket rotors for about 45$ what do you want 2nd hand for?
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Follow Up By: charlie - Wednesday, Mar 17, 2004 at 14:49
Wednesday, Mar 17, 2004 at 14:49
Davoe do you know where I can get these from as even Disc Brakes Australia through Supercheap are around the $300 mark each
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Follow Up By: Davoe - Wednesday, Mar 17, 2004 at 16:39
Wednesday, Mar 17, 2004 at 16:39
Could have been a bit misleading. the rotors were for a hzj 75 and there may be a difference. They were supplied and fitted by a local company in kalgoorlie. They cant be machined and are a throwaway item but do appear to be able to pull up my 3t campervan easily. They cost 90$ for the pair which is nearly as cheap as machining anyway(sort of)
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Mar 17, 2004 at 11:49
Wednesday, Mar 17, 2004 at 11:49
www.lcool.org the landcruiser tech
forum..
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Reply By: Kiwi Ray - Wednesday, Mar 17, 2004 at 11:53
Wednesday, Mar 17, 2004 at 11:53
Hi charlie
There was a disc and caliper change around June 93 rotors and calipers are larger,
this aplies to models regardless of drum or disc on the rear.
!5 ins wheels do not fit on the later 80#s
The larger brake design is far better than the earlier system.
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Follow Up By: charlie - Wednesday, Mar 17, 2004 at 14:50
Wednesday, Mar 17, 2004 at 14:50
Hey Kiwi Ray do you know if the brakes can bolt straight on or not?
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Reply By: Moose - Wednesday, Mar 17, 2004 at 14:15
Wednesday, Mar 17, 2004 at 14:15
G'day Charlie
Give the guys at Sunshine State 4WD a call on 3216 6333 and see how you go. Best place I know of for cheaper new bits for Toyotas.
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Reply By: crfan - Wednesday, Mar 17, 2004 at 15:26
Wednesday, Mar 17, 2004 at 15:26
Hi Charlie,
the discs for the front were the same from 8/92 onwards,
Coventrys Part numbers are 4351260090 about $120 retail each.
DBA784 about $200 retail each.
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Reply By: Kiwi Ray - Wednesday, Mar 17, 2004 at 15:30
Wednesday, Mar 17, 2004 at 15:30
Hi Charlie
The front is just bolt on, I used 2 nd hand from wrecker and changed rotor and hub.
The rear is the same just bolt on, but I do not know what is involved if you have drum brakes on the rear, are you sure they are drum brakes or is it just drum for the park brake as is normal for the 80#
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Follow Up By: charlie - Wednesday, Mar 17, 2004 at 17:50
Wednesday, Mar 17, 2004 at 17:50
Mine are discs all round. I think the base model early 80 had rear drums for a year or so. If you just bolt them on what happens with the calipers, don't they need to be bigger also to improve stopping?
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Reply By: Kiwi Ray - Wednesday, Mar 17, 2004 at 18:06
Wednesday, Mar 17, 2004 at 18:06
The larger calipers have the same mounting pattern.
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Reply By: Kiwi Ray - Wednesday, Mar 17, 2004 at 18:11
Wednesday, Mar 17, 2004 at 18:11
The 4 calipers and rotors cost me $750
This changes the braking system to the later models and makes a major improvement
Ray
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Follow Up By: charlie - Wednesday, Mar 17, 2004 at 22:02
Wednesday, Mar 17, 2004 at 22:02
Hey Ray thanks for all your help. Where did you source your parts from?
Once I know where to get it I will gladly pay $750 to get some better stopping power!
cheers'
Charlie
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Reply By: Member - DOZER- Wednesday, Mar 17, 2004 at 19:51
Wednesday, Mar 17, 2004 at 19:51
Gday
The later stuff bolts straight on if you have the hubs for the discs. Drum rears were only on std vans prior to 92, b4 getting the GXL rear discs until 9/92 when all brakes are disc and went up a size.
If you are looking for better brakes on an early model, another option is to pay some extra for DBA slotted rotors and descent pads like the 4wd kevlar bonded ones.
Andrew
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