locking clamps

Submitted: Wednesday, Mar 24, 2004 at 19:59
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Hi all

Mr. Al is wondering whether anyone may know of a supplier of the following....
a locking clamp on a spare wheel carrier, like you would get on a kaymar carrier...we have tried Kaymar and ARB but they have not been helpful....

Lyn

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Reply By: Member - Raymond - Wednesday, Mar 24, 2004 at 20:18

Wednesday, Mar 24, 2004 at 20:18
Hi Lyn
Is it just to lock the tire on, or to take a shovel, axe etc
Ray
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Follow Up By: Member - Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Wednesday, Mar 24, 2004 at 20:23

Wednesday, Mar 24, 2004 at 20:23
Hi Ray

Al wants to make a wheel carrier...and needs the clamp...but hasn't been able to get that bit ...he could make it....but would rather not...esp as there as to be a manufacturerer of the component...
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Reply By: Member - JohnR (Vic) - Wednesday, Mar 24, 2004 at 20:18

Wednesday, Mar 24, 2004 at 20:18
Lyn, I am assuming Mr Al is looking for security for his spare, he is a bit quiet there. I use padlocks through welded on loops or tubes with holes on locknuts to lock them in place on my carrier. Used keyed alike locks. Some use a cable or chain.
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Follow Up By: Member - Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Wednesday, Mar 24, 2004 at 20:25

Wednesday, Mar 24, 2004 at 20:25
hi John, he actually wants to make the carrier...and that's the bit he can't get...
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Reply By: Member - Nick (TAS) - Wednesday, Mar 24, 2004 at 20:38

Wednesday, Mar 24, 2004 at 20:38
I made one for our vehicle(spare wheel carrier) and searched for ages for a suitable locking clamp.Ended up using a clamp that you use on drop sides on utes,the heavy duty type ones.Our carrier supports the arm(holding the wheel) so that all the clamp has to do is keep the carrier shut.Hope this helps.
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Follow Up By: Member - Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Wednesday, Mar 24, 2004 at 20:41

Wednesday, Mar 24, 2004 at 20:41
Hi Nick

thanks for that...he's considered that...and may have to use that too..he was just hoping he'd get a supplier of the actual lever...

cheers

Lyn
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Follow Up By: Member - Nick (TAS) - Wednesday, Mar 24, 2004 at 20:48

Wednesday, Mar 24, 2004 at 20:48
Yeah I tried to get one to and was told that you car'nt buy it seperatly but if you have a Kaymar spare wheel carrier(with reciets) you can buy one then to replace the one on your unit ,if it was faulty say.Does that make sense?
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Follow Up By: Member - Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Wednesday, Mar 24, 2004 at 20:55

Wednesday, Mar 24, 2004 at 20:55
It sounds all too familar to me....hahahha..I bet they charge top dollar for a bit that probably only costs about $20 to make [if that]
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Follow Up By: Baz (NSW) - Wednesday, Mar 24, 2004 at 21:06

Wednesday, Mar 24, 2004 at 21:06
I dont know if this may help but i have 2 spare wheel carries of an old FJ45 Landcruiser !!! i can bring one down with us if you can wait till ANZAC day weekend.

Baz.
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Follow Up By: Member - Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 08:24

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 08:24
Thanks Baz I'll let him know

cheers

Lyn
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Follow Up By: Member - Eskimo - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 10:59

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 10:59
If the part is available as a 'listed' spare part then you Dont Have to produce a reciept to prove that you have a Kaymar carrier just to get one.
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Follow Up By: Member - Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 11:26

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 11:26
Hi Richard, he's spoken with Kaymar, and they don't want to know, and are not being helpful...
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Follow Up By: Nudenut - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 11:35

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 11:35
slack mongrels
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Reply By: Member Eric - Wednesday, Mar 24, 2004 at 23:00

Wednesday, Mar 24, 2004 at 23:00
Lyn , just get the cap that he got from arm on his rear wheel carrier , goes on after the wheel and locks from the rear . I asume this is for the van ? since i know hw has a rear wheel carrier on the cruiser
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Follow Up By: Member - Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 08:25

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 08:25
Eric...I'm not sure what is going on in his brain or what his idea is at the moment...hahahaha...he's planning something...
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Follow Up By: Roachie - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 16:14

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 16:14
Hi Eric,
I think the part that he's after is nothing to do with the wheel, but rather the over-center lock that holds the swinging arm onto the main bumper bar.
Just my interpretation...
Cheers,
Roachie
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Reply By: RayMc - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 01:38

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 01:38
Mr Al, maybe try some of the camper trailer manufacturers. Some of the tool boxes on the front have the locking type clamps. Mine has but I'm in WA.
Cheers
Ray
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Follow Up By: Member - Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 08:25

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 08:25
Thanks Ray

shall suggest that to him

cheers

Lyn
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Reply By: Roachie - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 16:38

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 16:38
Lyn,
I've read your post a couple of times and then read the responses you've been getting. I get the impression (maybe wrong) that most people are thinking that Mr Al is after some means of locking the actual wheel onto the new carrier he is building.
However, I think he is actually trying to get hold of the latch that holds the swinging arm onto the main steel bumper bar. The silvery-coloured, over-centre latch which you throw over about 90 degrees to stop the swing arm moving all over the place when you're travelling along????
Is this right??
I have a dual wheel carrier made by Opposite Lock and it has similar locking devices for the 2 swing-out arms. Maybe you could give them a call

Good luck

Roachie
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Follow Up By: Member - Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 18:36

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 18:36
yes Roachie that's what he wants...the clamp with the lever....or as Lyn would say...".the hooky thing that clips through the jigga tht you lock with the handle"...he's tried Opposite lock but they are keeping mum about the suppliers.

Lyn
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Reply By: Janset - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 21:03

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 21:03
Hi Guys.

Just to let you know what kind of CRAP service Kaymar does (or in this case, doesn't) give.

Some years ago I had to mortgage my house just to buy a very_over_ priced double hinged Kaymar rear carrier. With the bumper I purchased the Left hand wheel carrier not the usual right sided ones.

At the time I did not have a second fuel tank, so it was my intention to construct a triple jerry can holder onto the other side carrier which I intended to make.

I also need the same locking latch, so I wrote a nice letter to Kaymar explaining what I intended to do. I said I realize that it may not be a spare part as such but could they please see their way to make an exception in this case and sell me one.

A number of weeks went by before I received a reply consisting of only a single page displaying their right side single jerry can holder which was circled with a colored hi-lighter, and the ridiculous asking price (I can't remember how much but I almost choked when I saw it).

So much for good will!

I then though I would be devious and go through my mate at my local 4WD outlet. He phoned them up and claimed that I needed the catch as I had reversed into a tree and damaged it. The response he got was, that it was not a replacement part and I was out of luck.

However, if I would supply a photo of the damaged part and if in their opinion the part was not repairable they "MAY" consider a replacement and the price was to be negotiable.

They then stated word to the effect that in all probability I was the guy who wrote to them, and all I really wanted it for was so as to steal their idea and to go into business in opposition to them. Yeah right. Good business practice to advise your opposition of such intentions. I think not!

What a pack of paranoids!

I told my mate to let it go, as far as I was concerned I would tell all just what kind of people they actually are.

Instead, I made a template of the one on the other side and had the shape of the lever plasma cut and uses the existing one as a template. When I had finished the construction, I had the whole thing electro-plated.

The finished swing out I so constructed that by undoing 3 bolts I could bolt on a second wheel carrier giving me 2 spare across the back. That is how I now use it as I have since fitted a long range fuel tank.

So in a nut shell, form your own opinion of these @#%#@#'s.

Incidentally, the whole project including the swap over conversion to a wheel carrier and all powder coating cost me less than 25% of their asking price for just one stinking jerry can holder, and I defy anyone to tell the difference between my setup and theirs when the 2 spares are mounted.

If anyone wants one, I think I still may have an instructional page put out by them on how to fit the latch to the bumper bar giving all the spacing sizes.

Regards
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Follow Up By: Member - Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 21:13

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 21:13
Hiya Janset..

Al sympathises...he's tried that with Kaymar too....same story....

cheers

Lyn
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Reply By: Member - StevenL - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 21:40

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 21:40
Hi Lyn,

Can I go for the lateral thinking alternative and suggest that if Al is doing a home made job then he just needs a simple spring pin and striker plate. He could just use a Lockwood door latch!

If the manufacturers won't come to the party then this may do the trick.

Steven
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Follow Up By: Member - Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 21:43

Thursday, Mar 25, 2004 at 21:43
Hi Steven

I can run that past him see what he says...

cheers

Lyn
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Reply By: Janset - Friday, Mar 26, 2004 at 21:49

Friday, Mar 26, 2004 at 21:49
Hi all.

StevenL. The thought is good, but believe me, there is a lot of weight/strain on the carrier and the latch. I think the latch may need more Oooomph!

If you look at the Kaymar, (there is that dirty word again....By the by, just a small bit of information, after my run in, I substituted the "F" word for a few weeks with the word kaymar. It does role off the tongue so w-e-l-l....! ).

Isn't it a pity that not 'ALL' 4 Wheel drivers do not read this forum, but only the dedicated one. Maybe if they did, the word 'Service' may have a meaning with Kaymar.....damn! There I go again, swearing. Sorry!

Regards
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Follow Up By: Janset - Saturday, Mar 27, 2004 at 03:49

Saturday, Mar 27, 2004 at 03:49
Al and Mrs Al.

Give TMJ a call. They make good products and sparewheel tailgates and I believe they do sell their latches as a part.

Regards
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