Prado V6 GXL

Submitted: Saturday, Mar 27, 2004 at 20:07
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Went for a casual 3500 km drive in a new V6 Prado last week and am really impressed (apart from that butt ugly front end).

Can anyone tell me
a) when the 5 speed auto is expected here
b) Availability of all terrain tyres in 17" or
c) options in 16" rims to suit this vehicle

as always any input will be appreciated
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Reply By: Joe - Saturday, Mar 27, 2004 at 20:32

Saturday, Mar 27, 2004 at 20:32
Hi Coops,
Have done 24,000 in my V6.
Tyres are a problem.
All 17" are passenger rated, even if called "all terrain". They are not an off road tyre.
Cooper rep advised me that ST, a genuine off road tyre will be here within 3 months.

Re 16" rims (ROH), they bind slightly on the callipers and would need a 2mm grind on the sholder. Recent discussion with local engineer... was quite happy that this work can be carried out and then can be certified.

Regards
Joe
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Follow Up By: Coops (Pilbara) - Sunday, Mar 28, 2004 at 10:51

Sunday, Mar 28, 2004 at 10:51
Joe
I have 16" GXL Landcruiser rims that have been offset (ie deep dish).

Do you think they would fit?

Thanx
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Reply By: SMMKJD - Sunday, Mar 28, 2004 at 09:21

Sunday, Mar 28, 2004 at 09:21
Hi Coops

My local Toyota spare parts manager has a 120 Prado GLX with new BFG AT's on the original alloys. Not shown as available on the BFG web site but I'm sure they were 265x70R17's.

Give BFG a call direct.

Steve
Adelaide
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Follow Up By: Joe - Sunday, Mar 28, 2004 at 10:19

Sunday, Mar 28, 2004 at 10:19
Yes that's right, but they not off road tyres, ie they are passenger rated/recreational use.
So if you venture seriously off road like I did recently you experience many tyre failures.
"LT" Light truck tyres arriving soon will be far better if you are planning off road trips.
Regards
Joe
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Reply By: Joe - Sunday, Mar 28, 2004 at 11:18

Sunday, Mar 28, 2004 at 11:18
Coops,
The 16" ROH only bind by the thickness of the powder coating plus bit, so you are only looking for 2mm. So the fix is very minor.
I do'nt know if your ofset rims will fit, but if they do that sure would make things simple.

The only way to know is try them I guess. Another Prado 120 owner tried Toyota supplied stock steel 16", not sure which, but they did'nt fit as readily as ROH.
THe information is available on 120 forum at yahoo groups, so we can find out if you want.
Regards
Joe
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Follow Up By: Outnabout David (SA) - Monday, Mar 29, 2004 at 15:21

Monday, Mar 29, 2004 at 15:21
Joe,

I am running BFG A/T's and they are LT but up one size in profile ie 70 series not 65.
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Follow Up By: Joe - Monday, Mar 29, 2004 at 16:04

Monday, Mar 29, 2004 at 16:04
David,
You have my attention.
I only spoke to BFG tyre dealer 2 weeks ago and he assurred me that the BFG all terrain 265/70/17 was only passenger/recreational rated, not LT.

That's why I have arranged 16" rims so I can run LT... 265/75/16 in any brand
In fact I have spoken to all the tyre dealers and when asked to clarify if thier all terrain is LT specs, they have all confirmed that they are passenger rated.

So this does not add up, so I had better ring BFG again.
The 16" that I have prepared with Cooper STT wo'nt go astray.
I have currently Mickey Thompson 265/70/17 All Terrain and I really chopped them up in Vic high country. On inspection the distributers advised that the Cooper all terrain in 17" would have been equally damaged, hence advice and move to LT requirement.
Regards
Joe
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Follow Up By: Joe - Monday, Mar 29, 2004 at 16:43

Monday, Mar 29, 2004 at 16:43
David,
Just spoke to another BFG dealer, 265/70/17 LT not available in an off road LT rating at our end yet.
????
Regards
Joe
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Follow Up By: Outnabout David (SA) - Tuesday, Mar 30, 2004 at 09:38

Tuesday, Mar 30, 2004 at 09:38
Joe,

The BFG's are LT265/70/17 A/T's. "LT"in the tyre designation means Light Truck. Also when I enquired some time ago Cooper in their AT range had both a passenger and LT version available although one had to specify that it was the LT tyre required.

The BFG's are "ALL Terrain" maybe what you are looking for is a M/T type more agressive tyre which isn't available at the moment in OZ.
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Follow Up By: Joe - Tuesday, Mar 30, 2004 at 18:06

Tuesday, Mar 30, 2004 at 18:06
Hi David,
Yes I am looking to more aggressive patterns, however the dealers here are telling me something diffeerent regarding the all terrains.ie only passenger/recreational rated, not LT

What's the ply rating on the tread and walls of your BFG's LT all terrains ?
Looking forward to your feed back

Regards
Joe
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Follow Up By: Outnabout David (SA) - Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004 at 10:45

Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004 at 10:45
Joe,
The Tyre Reads LT 265/70/17 112/109Q Load range C Sidewall 3 ply.

When new they had about 12.7mm tread depth which is normally what LT tyres come with. LT prefixing the size to my knowledge means Light Truck Construction.

There is no rocket science here and there are plenty getting around on theses tyres so if the tyre place is telling you they are not light truck tyres I would be interested in the reason and also could he explain what the tyre designation means.

Hope this helps.
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Follow Up By: Joe - Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004 at 11:03

Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004 at 11:03
Hi David,
Thanks for your effort at persisting at my disbelief. My local tyre dealers must be thick.

You obviously have what they tell me is not yet available.

I will go face to face and ask to see the spec sheets.
Thanks for your time.

Regards
Joe
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Follow Up By: Outnabout David (SA) - Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004 at 12:30

Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004 at 12:30
Joe,

No worries. Are you in Vic? I think I have seen you on the Yahoo group.
If you are over there I am coming that way the weeek after Easter so you could look for yourself.

Mine BFG's just came from a local Beaurepaires store in Adelaide.
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Follow Up By: Joe - Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004 at 14:00

Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004 at 14:00
Hi David,

Hey I do beleive you!, so I really do'nt have to see "the" tyre, but we would be pleased to see you here in Vic if you want to stop in and say hi, have cuppa.
Yes I'm on the yahoo prado 120 group, it's always good to compare notes on our Prado's/trips face to face.
Visit my site www.images-australia.com.au and keep in touch, we would be pleased to see you if it works out.
Regards
Joe
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Reply By: Sam - Monday, Mar 29, 2004 at 17:56

Monday, Mar 29, 2004 at 17:56
You can get a Cooper 265/70-17LT in their All Terain pattern.
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