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Reply By: Member - Faydaway - Thursday, Mar 05, 2015 at 12:23

Thursday, Mar 05, 2015 at 12:23
Lucky mine is a Campmaster model CM2100 manufactured on 1st June 2006.
Will be able to buy very cheap gas canisters for a while now
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Reply By: Bob Y. - Qld - Thursday, Mar 05, 2015 at 13:14

Thursday, Mar 05, 2015 at 13:14
Well, that's a bummer!!!

My Primus Model 2271 will explode at any minute, so took it out of the camper and put it in the shed.........more flammable products in there. :-)

No mention of this on the Qld Fair Trading site, that I could find anyway?

Thanks for the warning, SDG,

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Follow Up By: SDG - Thursday, Mar 05, 2015 at 13:24

Thursday, Mar 05, 2015 at 13:24
As been pointed out in another forum I'm on, it only seems to be NSW. Does this mean no other states care enough about our safety???
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Thursday, Mar 05, 2015 at 13:31

Thursday, Mar 05, 2015 at 13:31
It's not a recall.

These stoves have been around for over 10 years with no issues reported.
I've had one for a decade and it's never had an issue.

Given its only NSW calling them into question and the approvals remain in other states from what I can see, something dosen't seem right.

Personally I will be keeping mine.

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Follow Up By: SDG - Thursday, Mar 05, 2015 at 13:45

Thursday, Mar 05, 2015 at 13:45
Any explosions are probably from people not reading directions, and leaving the stove plate upside down, where a warning does state explosion may occur if left.
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Follow Up By: Jarse - Thursday, Mar 05, 2015 at 18:20

Thursday, Mar 05, 2015 at 18:20
My stove has a lockout which stops you from engaging the gas canister when the stove plate is left in the wrong way.

Dunno if it makes any difference, but my stove has an Aussie approval sticker on it...
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Saturday, Mar 07, 2015 at 16:51

Saturday, Mar 07, 2015 at 16:51
Same here. We also disengage the cylinder when turned off and not in use. We found that if you just turned the gas off and didn't release the cylinder lock then the gas container would empty.

I checked the listing and the two Oztrails that we have (CM2170) are not listed.

Bloody good cookers and so easy, light and economic. I think that we shall continue using ours.
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Reply By: Batt's - Thursday, Mar 05, 2015 at 13:40

Thursday, Mar 05, 2015 at 13:40
I have a suggestion open the link then click on the homepage then click on recent scams all will be revealed.
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Follow Up By: SDG - Thursday, Mar 05, 2015 at 13:48

Thursday, Mar 05, 2015 at 13:48
Well caught
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Follow Up By: Stevo - Thursday, Mar 05, 2015 at 14:02

Thursday, Mar 05, 2015 at 14:02
This is NOT a scam.
It is an ALERT!
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Follow Up By: Batt's - Thursday, Mar 05, 2015 at 15:00

Thursday, Mar 05, 2015 at 15:00
Yep just like the heading reads seem obvious to me unless they change their mind of where it should be listed am I right or am I right.
http://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/ftw/Consumers/Scams/Recent_scams.page?DCSext.ref=HomePageClick:ScamandAlerts
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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Thursday, Mar 05, 2015 at 15:05

Thursday, Mar 05, 2015 at 15:05
Thanks Batts,

Glad I didn't give all my cylinders away! :-)

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Follow Up By: Bigfish - Thursday, Mar 05, 2015 at 15:23

Thursday, Mar 05, 2015 at 15:23
My vote is for a SCAM...
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Follow Up By: Stevo - Thursday, Mar 05, 2015 at 15:25

Thursday, Mar 05, 2015 at 15:25
I concede, my vote is for a scam also!
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Follow Up By: garrycol - Thursday, Mar 05, 2015 at 15:35

Thursday, Mar 05, 2015 at 15:35
Sorry - what is a scam - was all across the NSW news on TV last night.
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Follow Up By: SDG - Thursday, Mar 05, 2015 at 15:43

Thursday, Mar 05, 2015 at 15:43
Been on phone to Fair Trading.

It is legitimate warning.
Somebody put it in the recent scam section, where it should not be.
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Follow Up By: Batt's - Thursday, Mar 05, 2015 at 17:02

Thursday, Mar 05, 2015 at 17:02
Somebody on another site I go on said he rang them and they claim it's not a scam.
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Follow Up By: get outmore - Tuesday, Mar 10, 2015 at 00:10

Tuesday, Mar 10, 2015 at 00:10
All shelves empty of them everywhere in wa.. I was trying to buy one
deffo no scam
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Reply By: DBN05 (tas) - Thursday, Mar 05, 2015 at 13:59

Thursday, Mar 05, 2015 at 13:59
My last one I bought in 1995 cost retail $60 and used it till 2008 when after trip on CSR it fell to bits. Bought another one Gasmaster PC107K in Alice that year and still going strong. It does have on it that it complies with and design certified by the AGA so i'll be keeping mine for many years to come and hoping to find heaps of cheap refills.
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Reply By: SDG - Thursday, Mar 05, 2015 at 15:44

Thursday, Mar 05, 2015 at 15:44
Been on phone to Fair Trading.

It is legitimate warning.
Somebody put it in the recent scam section, where it should not be.
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Reply By: Member - Duncan W (WA) - Thursday, Mar 05, 2015 at 16:00

Thursday, Mar 05, 2015 at 16:00
It begs the question why now? These stoves have been around for donkey's years without, to my knowledge, any problems.

The list shows 30 models that are now 'suspended' surely if there had been any problems one or more of the companies listed would have discovered a problem?

Is it that they are all made by the one company and badged under different names?

Also if it is such a big deal why isn't this a National problem?

Very odd and I don't think I'll be ditching my single or double ones any time soon.

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Follow Up By: Bigfish - Thursday, Mar 05, 2015 at 16:31

Thursday, Mar 05, 2015 at 16:31
I,ll bet the users didn't operate the equipment properly. Used an over size pan will create an explosion. Had them since they first came out, all certified by AGA and never had an issue. Gone through hundreds of gas cans with no problems. Then again I do use common sense and that can be a problem for some...
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Follow Up By: garrycol - Thursday, Mar 05, 2015 at 17:22

Thursday, Mar 05, 2015 at 17:22
I have two Gasmate single burners and have had no issues. However I did buy a two burner version last year and it worked OK for a while but one day I heard an pfft and it was on fire where the canister plugs into the unit. I thought operator error and took the canister out and back in.

No issues for a couple of weeks then the same - flame was about 2' high. The canister was inserted correctly so I inspected the fitting that the canister goes into - it is made out of cheap metal and had developed a microscopic crack that allowed a small amount of gas to escape and after a while it reached the gas flame and ignited - no explosion just ignition but if I had not been there I can see how the canister would then get hot and explode.

The other burner had no problems so i just threw it out - looking back on things maybe I should have reported the issue.

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Follow Up By: River Swaggie - Friday, Mar 06, 2015 at 13:22

Friday, Mar 06, 2015 at 13:22
"No issues for a couple of weeks then the same - flame was about 2' high."

Hi Gary

You sure you didn't have it switch on the "Marshmallow Mode".. Lol

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Reply By: Member - Rowdy6032 (WA) - Thursday, Mar 05, 2015 at 16:38

Thursday, Mar 05, 2015 at 16:38
The problem with the stoves has been around for some time.

Over the years I have seen examples of these stoves that have blown up, I think it has been brought up on ExploreOz before. Has not happened to me personally but have seen photos and heard of people being burnt badly.

My understanding was that it was because people were putting large frypans over the cooker and it wasn't allowing the heat to dissipate.

It seems that they have at last decided to do something about it.

I use one myself, but the risk is there. I wouldn't let kids anywhere near them or use them inside.

A quick Google search found one example.

http://www.chemaxx.com/butane_explosion.htm

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Reply By: Member - Serendipity(WA) - Thursday, Mar 05, 2015 at 23:43

Thursday, Mar 05, 2015 at 23:43
I will testify how dangerous these are. At xmas we went to Esperance and stayed at the Cape Le Grande Nat Pk. While there a tent camper blew up his portable gas stove with one of those disposable bottles. Huge noise and burnt his tent. Ambulance came and he had severe burns to his body.

Not sure what he was doing or whether it was faulty.

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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Friday, Mar 06, 2015 at 13:40

Friday, Mar 06, 2015 at 13:40
One 5m from us blew up also Serendipity, but no significant injuries, made a hell of a noise and whole stove seperated into its component bits.

Hasn't made us stop using them but does make you ensure its being used right.

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Follow Up By: Swaggie - Friday, Mar 06, 2015 at 13:49

Friday, Mar 06, 2015 at 13:49
Hi Robin

That's it mate and don't buy any canisters without the CRV stamped on them, it's a safety valve etc and plenty of stores are selling the old ones..

Cheers
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Reply By: Kiwi100 - Saturday, Mar 07, 2015 at 16:19

Saturday, Mar 07, 2015 at 16:19
The report states that approvals have been withdrawn. Obviously, existing approval stamps can't be deleted, but it does mean that your 'approved' one is unlikely to be re-approved if tested so there is no reason to be complacent.

Reported explosions were all related to 'misuse', suggesting that sensible-sized pans and a well-ventilated area should avoid the problem. You could also layer a bit of reflective foil over the gas compartment to add a bit of protection.
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Follow Up By: Kiwi100 - Saturday, Mar 07, 2015 at 16:28

Saturday, Mar 07, 2015 at 16:28
I might add that any reduction in cylinder prices will likely be short-lived, before reduced volume brings price-rises or even lack of availability.
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Reply By: pickle - Saturday, Mar 07, 2015 at 19:18

Saturday, Mar 07, 2015 at 19:18
Something I alluded to some 15 months ago whilst doing some testings on the cookers and gas cylinders
http://www2.pajeroclub.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=35772
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Reply By: 08crd - Tuesday, Mar 10, 2015 at 23:25

Tuesday, Mar 10, 2015 at 23:25
I was given a Gaz portable burner 40 years ago, a few years later when I had a situation arise to use it, one of my kids copped 70% full thickness burns.

It was and still is a horrible memory, unless the gas has a fail safe shut off system, I would stay right away from them.
Also in my opinion, there is a huge difference in the structural integrity, between a tin can and a pressure tested steel vessel.

It is all about personal choice, wish I could have mine over again.
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Reply By: Ron N - Friday, Mar 20, 2015 at 13:19

Friday, Mar 20, 2015 at 13:19
The office of Energy Safety, W.A. has advised today, in line with the NSW announcement at the top of the thread, that a total of 31 models of portable gas or "lunchbox" cookers, have had their compliance certification suspended.

6 of the models listed are advised as being dangerous to use because of unsafe shutoff valves.
Owners are advised to discontinue use of the unit, if they own one of the 6 models listed.

All 31 models have officially been withdrawn from sale in W.A.

The links to the warning advice are listed below ....

Office of Energy Safety, W.A. - public warning - unsafe portable gas cookers

Unsafe and dangerous gas cookers list - all 31 models

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Follow Up By: oldtrack123 - Saturday, Mar 21, 2015 at 17:09

Saturday, Mar 21, 2015 at 17:09
Hi Ron
Yes ,they have ALL been withdrawn from sale ,but an official recall of those sold has not been made
It has been suggested that those who have sales dockets confirming the purchase ,take them back to THAT store for a refund
The removal from sales is, I believe ,Aus wide.
,Subject to retesting [this time in Aus ,I expect ]& PASSING ALL tests, some may be REAPPROVED

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Reply By: Derek Jones - Saturday, Mar 21, 2015 at 10:30

Saturday, Mar 21, 2015 at 10:30
Bugger! Such a handy little thing too.
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Reply By: SDG - Wednesday, Apr 01, 2015 at 17:28

Wednesday, Apr 01, 2015 at 17:28
Found my old post>


Apparently all other states have now put the ban in.

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Follow Up By: ModSquad - Wednesday, Apr 01, 2015 at 19:00

Wednesday, Apr 01, 2015 at 19:00
Link to additional info/update referred to by SDG

NSW, VIC, QLD, WA, SA & NT Ban Butane Cookers
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Reply By: oldtrack123 - Friday, Apr 03, 2015 at 16:38

Friday, Apr 03, 2015 at 16:38
HI
While it was true that there where no recall notices.
Just that all stocks were withdrawn from sale & a warning went out advising to stop use & return THAT has now changed

Below an official recall for one brand


This is the only one, As far asI am aware, that an official RECALL recall has been made

Sitro Group AustraliaTwin Portable Butane Cooker

PRA number: 2015/14630
Date published: 1st April 2015



Product information

Product description

Twin burner portable butane cooker

Identifying features

Gasmate PC2075, PC2080, BuyRight MPC2070 with a date of manufacture (DOM) 48/13. The product has been available for sale from the 1 April 2014 to 1 March 2015.

What are the defects?

The overpressure safety device may not shut off gas to the burner if the butane cartridge canister is overheated. In addition, the risk of overheating increases if the product is not used according the manufacturer's specifications.

What are the hazards?

If the defect occurs, there is risk of explosion and fire.

Dates available for sale

1st April 2014 - 1st March 2015

Where the product was sold
•Nationally

Traders who sold this product

The product has been sold via hardware and camping stores

Supplier

Sitro Group Australia

Supplier's web site
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