Tyre wear on 100 Series

Submitted: Monday, May 20, 2002 at 00:00
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I have a 100 Series that suffers from tyre scrubbing out on the front left hand side (40000klms) I took it to Pro Steer and they said that all 100 series and GQ Nissans have a camber problem that requires fitting a bush of some sort to correct it. ($350) Apparently a wheel alignment dos not fix the problem. All other tyres are perfect and look like going another 20000 klms at least. They said that Nissan and Toyota will not admit it but the problem is definitely there. Any suggestions or experience in this matter?
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Reply By: Andrew Donald - Monday, May 20, 2002 at 00:00

Monday, May 20, 2002 at 00:00
I may be stating the obvious but have you had any other opinions. Try getting onto a toyota web site, maybe the landcruiser club has one or you might find the address for one on this site. Did they try aligning it??????
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Follow Up By: Drew - Monday, May 20, 2002 at 00:00

Monday, May 20, 2002 at 00:00
They could have done an alignment but said it would be a waste of time.
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Reply By: Wayne- Monday, May 20, 2002 at 00:00

Monday, May 20, 2002 at 00:00
Drew we have a 100 series that has done over 60,000 kms - I have not noticed any uneven front tyre wear. All my tyres are wearing evenly across the tread (although fronts wear quicker than rears). We use original grand treks for city driving and BFG AT's for dirt / off road

This maybe because I have a OME suspension upgrade (with no changes required to the camber) or because I regularily rotate tyres therefore no tyre stays in one place longer than about 10,000 kms at a time and have regular wheel alignments.

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Follow Up By: Drew - Monday, May 20, 2002 at 00:00

Monday, May 20, 2002 at 00:00
I have also upgraded my suspension with Series 2000 from TJM (no camber kits required.) I think you hit the nail on the head when you said you rotated your tyres every 10000ks. I wish I had done the same as this would not be an issue now. I will probably buy a new tyre shortly and add in the spare then rotate back to front in pairs then left to right only
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Reply By: Andrew - Monday, May 20, 2002 at 00:00

Monday, May 20, 2002 at 00:00
For decades all the jap and american 4wd's and trucks generally have had a camber problem in australia.. yep u guessed it, we drive on the left side..
and the road has a natural camber off to the left, and we also do more right hand turns than left hand turns.
A majority of jap solid axle vehicles will have 1/2 degree more positive camber on the left than the right.. great in america.. but not here.. and the dealers / manufacturers won't admit to it..
They will tell you all the crap under the sun, and at most, if your lucky, all they will have ever done is check and adjust the toe-in, and by reducing it to cancell the scrub on the left outer, it will become evident with scrub on the right inner. They cannot do a camber and caster adjustment on the majority of standard solid axle 4wd's.
answer.. see a "wheel alignment only" expert.. get it fixed, then go screw your dealer..
It is fixed by fitting in shiming or adjustable bushing.
In light and heavy trucks, hydraulically bending the solid axle beam.
Even the majority of jap 4wd's with IFS come here wrongly set as well, and the dealers are too lazy to set them right..but it can be done.
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Follow Up By: Drew - Tuesday, May 21, 2002 at 00:00

Tuesday, May 21, 2002 at 00:00
That now makes sense. I bet the dealer wont want anything to do with it though, let alone Toyota. I might try it on anyway. Thanks for your help Andrew...
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Follow Up By: Andrew - Tuesday, May 21, 2002 at 00:00

Tuesday, May 21, 2002 at 00:00
That's ok mate..been there heaps of times, and have worked with dealers and front end specialists in my time, I also have had solid and IFS, current IFS has done 140,000 km since "I" did the wheel alignment, and no scrubbing, and get great milage out of the rubber..same with a 4runner I had.
Worst thing bout the jap IFS, is the bastards do the upper inner control arm bushes up dam tight..lol..and there a *rick to get to, more so in a V6.
Anyway go see a specialist, he will set you right, then bag the dealer..
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Reply By: Bob - Tuesday, May 21, 2002 at 00:00

Tuesday, May 21, 2002 at 00:00
Actually, the problem is with the right hand front tyre. Grandtreks are meant to scrub out quickly so you can replace them with proper tyres. Somehow they got the wrong compound in your right side tyre. The purpose of Grandtreks is to protect the lino in the showroom from wheel rim damage and get you to a tyre dealer when you leave.
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Reply By: lionel - Friday, May 24, 2002 at 00:00

Friday, May 24, 2002 at 00:00
Drew, nobody has asked the question. What pressure do you run in your tyres. They are probably running too low.Check your sidewalls for correct pressure figures.Probably around 50-60lbs. Dealers love to let your tyres down.
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Follow Up By: Norm Bambach - Tuesday, May 28, 2002 at 00:00

Tuesday, May 28, 2002 at 00:00
Drew,I have no had trouble at all with tyres.I rotated my tyres every 5000k ,pressure 34lb all round. I got 98000k out of the original Dunlops.Its a case of looking after your gear.
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Reply By: Darren - Thursday, Jun 06, 2002 at 00:00

Thursday, Jun 06, 2002 at 00:00
Drew, I have a 100 series (99) with 38,000 klms with exactly the same problem. My plans are to have an Adjustable kin pin installed by a Sydney based company for $220.
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