Oodnadatta to Mt Dare road?

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I've driven the standard SA desert 'tracks' - Strez, Birdsville and Oodnadatta - and am wondering whether the Mt Dare road is similar - in condition and weather restrictions.
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Reply By: Omaa - Friday, Apr 17, 2015 at 16:35

Friday, Apr 17, 2015 at 16:35
We did that in 2013. Up to Dalhousie was a reasonably good dirt road but from there up to Mt Dare- gibber plains & all we did out both side car windows was checking the 4 van tyres in case we hit a sharp gibber but all was good. A lot of the was was 10-20klm/hr.
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Follow Up By: Member - Mark (Tamworth NSW) - Friday, Apr 17, 2015 at 19:43

Friday, Apr 17, 2015 at 19:43


And this was after the Gibber section with rocks the size of watermelons. But it was a few years ago.
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Follow Up By: Member - Mark (Tamworth NSW) - Friday, Apr 17, 2015 at 19:59

Friday, Apr 17, 2015 at 19:59
sorry meant rockmelons, not watermelons
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 10:05

Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 10:05
Need a spelling gizmo. Sri Stephen
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Reply By: Member - mark D18 - Friday, Apr 17, 2015 at 17:42

Friday, Apr 17, 2015 at 17:42
Sigmung

The road from Dalhousie Springs to Mt Dare is a really rough gibber stone road
Its 2 years since I have travelled it , so maybe now its better
When I did the Simpson last year I made sure I filled up at Oodnadatta so I didn't have to go to Mt Dare. I easily made it to Birdsville with a bit to spare ( I have a troopie with 2x 90 litre tanks )

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Follow Up By: MUZBRY- Life member(Vic) - Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 09:32

Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 09:32
Gday
I did that road last September on the way to Trilby station, and it still has those rockmelon sized rocks . The road is good for about 20 kph if you are lucky.
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Reply By: Peter_n_Margaret - Friday, Apr 17, 2015 at 18:08

Friday, Apr 17, 2015 at 18:08
Hamilton, Eringa, Abminga carries much less traffic, has a much more "remote" feeling and is a very pleasant drive.
Travelling south......







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Follow Up By: Peter_n_Margaret - Friday, Apr 17, 2015 at 18:46

Friday, Apr 17, 2015 at 18:46
The last pic above is between Abminga and Hamilton.
You will also cross the Foggarty Clay Pan (provided it is dry) half way between Hamilton and Oodnadatta.



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Follow Up By: MUZBRY- Life member(Vic) - Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 09:37

Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 09:37
Gday Pete and Marg
I did south to north and came across a camel train in the middle of the road. They had a baby camel two weeks old and at full stretch came up to my armpit, i'm not sure why he wanted his nose up there , but nice to have a cuddle with .
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 20:33

Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 20:33
Gday Muz,
I'm sure a camel in your armpit would be a warm, sloppy, snotty feeling :-)
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Friday, Apr 17, 2015 at 18:36

Friday, Apr 17, 2015 at 18:36
The road north from Oodnadatta to Eringa via Hamilton Station is a graded highway.Camp at Eringa - it's a magical place. Eringa to Mt Dare is one I haven't done for many years but I'd expect it to be corrugated.
As for weather, after 1/2" of rain, most SA outback roads will close or should be closed, including Oodnadatta to Mt Dare.
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Follow Up By: Fab72 - Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 08:15

Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 08:15
X10000 ....... Eringa is simply stunning. One of Sir Sidney Kidman's properties... in fact, I think it may have been his first one.

Dalhousie is nice because of the opportunity of a warm swim but for tranquillity and picturesque settings, Eringa is miles in front.

The road from Oodnadatta to Mt.Dare is an easy drive in anything other than a Ferrari. (When it's dry). Mt.Dare to Dalhousie is not a great road. Still very do-able but allow time. Time to stop and check your loads, allow the shocks to cool and time to let your tyres down.....lots. It's like anything...when it's dry it's Commodore country. Firm but rough. You'll be right.

Did I mention how stunning Eringa is..............................?

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Follow Up By: Member - Howard (ACT) - Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 12:01

Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 12:01
there is a note on the Mount Dare website that camping is no longer permitted at Eringa waterhole
apparently Hamilton Stn are now only allowing camping at their campground. provides stn no for more info.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 20:35

Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 20:35
Geeze Howard, That would be sad. Birdlife there is amazing.
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Reply By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Friday, Apr 17, 2015 at 20:18

Friday, Apr 17, 2015 at 20:18
Hi Sigmund

The drive from Oodnadatta to Mount Dare will give you a mixture of a road very similar to the Major tracks like the Birdsville, Oodnadatta and Strezlecki Tracks as far Hamilton Station and then the track will be just that, a track.

You do not have to go to Dalhousie Springs if you do not want to, just keep heading north after the Bloods Creek Turn off. The track will be subject to weather restrictions, as with any outback drive and as Phil mentioned, Eringa Waterhole is a great place to camp and to stop and stretch your legs. If you do intend to camp there, make sure that you bring in your own wood from outside the area, as you will not find and timber to burn.



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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 10:05

Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 10:05
Nice photos tephen. But the local bus service looks a little outdated.
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 09:27

Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 09:27
Hi Vk1dx

That was a very strange one for sure. We saw him coming, so did the right thing and stopped well before he was upon us, so he would not get covered in dust and stones or scare his camels.

I walked out onto the road to take a few photos and said g'day and if he was travelling ok, but the guy did not stop, or even return any conversation, just kept walking.

It makes me wonder what was his story and where he was heading.


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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 09:42

Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 09:42
You meet all kinds and in the greater majority it's worth stopping for a chat. Had a long chat over a brew, with a grader driver on Cape York once, on the Starckie Track. Learnt a few things to see.

But the bloke below just ingored us.

I believe some of the tracks out there are closed at the moment for rain. Is this a prelude to another wet Lake Eyre!!


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Reply By: Sigmund - Friday, Apr 17, 2015 at 20:27

Friday, Apr 17, 2015 at 20:27
Many thanks for the excellent information folks.

The alternative route looks much more attractive.

Though I've read something about Eringa waterhole having been closed to camping.
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Friday, Apr 17, 2015 at 20:33

Friday, Apr 17, 2015 at 20:33
Hi Sigmund

Its been a couple of years since we have been up there, but like all things, the thoughtless idiots ruin it for everyone.

The last time we were at Eringa, someone had taken a chain saw to one of the living River Red Gum branches, and then tried to burn the green timber,, and they wonder why places get closed down to everyone.

Either way, timber can be an issue out that way, so you are better to top up when you see old dry timber, rather than getting to a popular spot and finding it bare. That is the problem now with many loved outback locations.



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Follow Up By: Sigmund - Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 07:06

Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 07:06
Thanks. Yes.

Hiking and skiing in NPs that've become fuel stove only zones has meant getting used to crawling into the sleeping bag early. Means you miss out on the yarns around the campfire but that's the price you pay for being out there.
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Follow Up By: Norm C (WA) - Tuesday, Apr 21, 2015 at 17:48

Tuesday, Apr 21, 2015 at 17:48
G'Day Stephen
The chap with the camels I think is Klaus.
I spoke with him way back in 2010 I think it was.
He was quite a character back then and had plenty of
time for a chat \
Norm
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Reply By: peter f7 - Friday, Apr 17, 2015 at 21:12

Friday, Apr 17, 2015 at 21:12
we travelled that track last year going to the Finke desert race ,
and from Oodnadatta to Hamilton was good but after the turn off to Pedirka
an over to Dalhousie was rough as guts an Dalhousie to Mt Dare was a shocker
as a result of rains previously the closer to mt Dare the track got worse , deep wheel
ruts an dry crusty hard dirt , It may have been graded since .
cheers mechpete
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Follow Up By: bardenboy - Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 19:48

Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 19:48
Hi lets hope the roads are better this year, we will also be out this way for the Finke races this year,coming up from Mt Dare, great spot and I don't mind the roads, will be pulling a camer this time, any idea of any good viewing / camping spots

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Dennis with a Hilux and KK in tow
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Follow Up By: bardenboy - Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 19:52

Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 19:52
Hi lets hope the roads are better this year, we will also be out this way for the Finke races this year,coming up from Mt Dare, great spot and I don't mind the roads, will be pulling a camper this time, any idea of any good viewing / camping spots

Thanks
Dennis with a Hilux and KK in tow
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Reply By: Member - lancie49 - Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 03:00

Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 03:00
Are you towing anything Sigmund
I took our homebuilt Teardrop up to Mt Dare in August last year and despite the rough road we had little problem.
Ohh, the tailgate did fall off after the hinges broke, but Dave and his Dad gave me a hand to get that sorted out.
A rear spring hanger came adrift as we left Hamilton Station on the way home.

We couldn't go out to Dalhousie as we had our dog with us so can't comment on that bit of road.
Yep, the road was not good after Hamilton, but it was a great experience and we will probably do it again. Tyre care is most important on those tracks, as it is on all tracks.
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Follow Up By: ChrisVal7 - Monday, Apr 27, 2015 at 13:59

Monday, Apr 27, 2015 at 13:59
I am glad to see your photos of that trip Lancie49, as I wondered how it had gone for you. We will be there again in the next few weeks, weather permitting.
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Follow Up By: Member - lancie49 - Monday, Apr 27, 2015 at 18:10

Monday, Apr 27, 2015 at 18:10
Gooday Chris.
I still haven't done that trip report have I...........

I'm not good at trip reports, but yep, it was a great drive out to Pedirka.
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