Oil for Toyota 2000 turbo diesel

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Ever since towing my 3.5 ton van with my 200 series turbo diesel Landcruiser I have changed the oil and filter every 5000 klms using Castrol Magnatek 1540 oil. I am told that all oils nowadays are good but I have also heard someone say that Castrol oil causes sludge. I am desperate to find out whether there are any better oils than the one I am using or is there a consensus that Castrol Magnatek is as good as any?
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Reply By: Gone Bush (WA) - Friday, Apr 17, 2015 at 22:48

Friday, Apr 17, 2015 at 22:48
Have you fitted an EGR blanking plate?

That's the first thing I would do, then start looking at oils.

I think it's the exhaust gases being pumped back into the engine that is the main cause of sludge.

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Follow Up By: Mally - Friday, Apr 17, 2015 at 22:54

Friday, Apr 17, 2015 at 22:54
Thanks Gone Bush. But what in the heavens name is EGR blanking plate?
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Follow Up By: Gone Bush (WA) - Friday, Apr 17, 2015 at 23:12

Friday, Apr 17, 2015 at 23:12
Ebay: EGR Blanking Plate

The exhaust gases are recirculated back into the engine to meet emission requirements but they cause the sludge in the oil and therefore in the engine. It's the main reason your oil goes a filthy black instead of retaining a reasonably dark honey colour.

The blanking plate is inserted in the pipe that directs the exhaust gases back into the engine. It has a 10mm hole in it to prevent error codes so a little gas still gets through.

It's relatively easy to fit by loosening the intercooler and lifting it up a little.

Join LCOOL.org. There's a huge amount of info in the 200 Series section including a lengthy, informative thread on EGR plates.

Fitting one will reduce the sludging far more than trying different oils.
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Follow Up By: Gone Bush (WA) - Friday, Apr 17, 2015 at 23:19

Friday, Apr 17, 2015 at 23:19
Just to clarify,

EGR = Exhaust Gas Recirculation.

I have my oil changed in my 200 Series at 10,000km intervals and it is always a dark honey colour, not thick black like it used to be.

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Follow Up By: Bigfish - Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 08:53

Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 08:53
Yep...blank the EGR off and keep using the Magnatec.

Agree with Gone Bus.
It is a proven oil and as you have been using it with no problems (like 99.99%) of people who use it), why change?

I have a Pajero and eliminating EGR was first mod I did. Prado also suffers from manifold carbon build up without this mod. After 5000klms my engine oil is still a nice honey colour.

Good luck.
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Follow Up By: Mally - Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 14:42

Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 14:42
Thanks to all - great information. Have you any idea where I can buy a Blanking Plate - heading to Darwin. Hoping to buy and have it fitted there. PS Do you think this is something that Toyota Aust will approve of.
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Follow Up By: Geepeem - Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 16:47

Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 16:47
Hey Gonebush, thanks for the heads up about blanking plates. I had never heard of them, But it makes sense to fit one. Do you know if all modern CRD need them or only some. The vehicle I am interested in says they have "EGR cooler bypass to help eliminate soot deposits in the EGR cooler/system, which could cause engine problems" Would this engine still benefit from a blanking plate?

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Follow Up By: Gone Bush (WA) - Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 16:58

Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 16:58
Geepeem,

I'm only familiar with the 200 Series Cruiser.

Is there an internet Forum for the brand you are looking at?

That's probably the best way to go.

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Follow Up By: Geepeem - Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 17:24

Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 17:24
Ok I will check it out.
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Follow Up By: Hoyks - Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 17:37

Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 17:37
Some vehicles are happy with a blanking plate, some like it to have a 1/4" hole in it so the sensors register some flow of gases.

Current Ford Ranger is happy with a blanking plate, the last model threw all sorts of engine error codes and likes restrictor plate with a 1/4" hole, so you can't pick between models, let alone manufacturers.

I don't see how a cooler would reduce the soot, other than it clogging up first.
Another down side of ERG and coolers is rearing it's head in the PK Ranger, the ERG coolers are corroding and leaking. Only 1 way for the leaking fluid to go and that is into the engine.
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Follow Up By: Mally - Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 14:06

Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 14:06
Thanks for all this info. The consensus seems to be that the fitting of the blocking plate is a good thing as it will lower the working temp of the car, stop the sludge build up and even give a better mileage. My one and only concern (being illegal doesn't concern me at all) is whether this blocking place can in any way damage the engine?
I would love some feed back on this point>
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Follow Up By: Gone Bush (WA) - Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 17:01

Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 17:01
No risk.

The sludge that would otherwise be inside your engine is worse.

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Reply By: peter f7 - Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 09:36

Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 09:36
Mally

when i worked in the dealerships in the 60s an 70s Castrol oil was well known through out the trade as Sh-t oil for that reason , but lot of water under the bridge since .
Its good now , I use it an don,t have a problem , these days bad oil wouldn,t stay on the market as the new engines are very high tech
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Reply By: Member - Odog - Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 10:17

Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 10:17
G'day all, would I be correct in saying that the EGR plate, does the same thing or similar as a catch can?... I drive a prado 150.. Which would be best option? The plate wouldn't take up any room in the engine bay I guess... Sorry, don't want to hijack the tread, just asking... Cheers. Odog
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Follow Up By: Member - Odog - Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 10:20

Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 10:20
Or is the catch can for the engine breather pipe, think this goes back into the inlet manifold.. Cheers
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Follow Up By: Hoyks - Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 10:31

Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 10:31
Different animal, but they work together.

The blanking plate stops soot getting blown back into the inlet tract.

The catch can stops the small amount of oil venting from the rocker cover going back into the inlet tract.

Soot sticks in the oil and can build up to block up inlet tract. A particularly good (bad) example can be seen in this 200 series landcruiser:

http://www.chiptuning.com.au/egr_blanking_info/
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Follow Up By: Hoyks - Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 10:37

Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 10:37
Actually, I tell a lie, this is from a Pajero, but follow the link and have a read.
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Reply By: Racey - Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 12:16

Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 12:16
Mally, have a look on the Land Cruiser Owners website for more detailed info on oils, blanking plates and catchers. Land Cruiser Owners website.. You will have to register, no big deal.

There lots of useful info on a huge range of topics.

Cheers
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Reply By: wholehog- Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 14:15

Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 14:15
Have a read here on EGR problems and some resolutions

http://www.chiptuning.com.au/egr_blanking_info/
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Reply By: Bigfish - Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 17:22

Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 17:22
On my 2014 Pajero I have an electronic plug and play gizmo that tricks the EGR into thinking it is not required. From SPV . Many Pajero owners have fitted it and it really is brilliant. I also use an Ultragauge (similar to a scangauge) and this tells me exactly what is going on with my vehicle as well as letting me know that the EGR is reading 0%...

Go to google and type in your make/model and EGR. You can read and make up your own mind.

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Reply By: TomH - Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 18:05

Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 18:05
Perhaps you could get the title changed to reflect the correct model Cruiser.

A 2000 Cruiser uses something like Penrite HPR 15 Diesel oil

A 200 series is a different animal.

No one has mentioned that it is illegal to blank off the EGR or any part of the emission system.

I dont care but be aware.
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Reply By: Member -Ted (Vic) - Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 08:36

Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 08:36
Mally

I used to use Castrol but changed to Ampol Delo 400 multigrade. I have also disconnected the EGR and find the oil stays cleaner longer. It gets a good wite up on the LCOOL site.

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Reply By: Mally - Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 14:02

Sunday, Apr 19, 2015 at 14:02
Thanks for the info
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