Tell me what you think of this old caravan

Submitted: Monday, May 11, 2015 at 18:25
ThreadID: 117808 Views:2881 Replies:18 FollowUps:12
This Thread has been Archived
I've the opportunity to buy this old caravan off a friend.

Basically I'm just looking for something to use as a site caravan. I.e. I'll park it on a friend's farm and use it as a place to stay weekends. It won't be on the road regularly, in fact I probably won't ever register it. In the very rare occasion I might want to shift it to another farm or place, I would probably get it towed or something.

So this particular caravan as you can see has water damage - the ceiling is water damaged as are some of the walls. There must be a leak somewhere. So If I bought this I would need to tear out the inner lining and replace it. I'd probably replace the floor too as it seems quite damaged in places. The furniture can come out - I would have likely ripped it out anyway even if it were in good nick - I'd rather just have a big empty room than all the typical caravan furniture anyway.
As you can see in the photos I've peeled back some of the internal lining and you can see the framing is aluminium in the walls, and timber in the roof. So I'm guessing this is good news in the sense that any framing damage should be restricted to the roof?

So if I bought it I'd figure I'd pull out all the furniture, remove the internal lining, find leak in roof and fix, fix any windows that need fixing, then re clad the interior, paint...job done.

I've never done this before though so I'm not sure. What do you think? Is what I am proposing reasonable?

Also, how does this caravan look to you over all? Does the chassis at least appear to be sound or is the whole thing a total write-off and to be avoided?

Photos of caravan
Back Expand Un-Read 1 Moderator

Reply By: fishboy - Monday, May 11, 2015 at 18:27

Monday, May 11, 2015 at 18:27
...and what should I pay for this thing?
AnswerID: 553591

Follow Up By: Member - John - Monday, May 11, 2015 at 18:52

Monday, May 11, 2015 at 18:52
I think you should be paid for removing it for him........................ I think you may be up for more than you think to renovate it, but I am no expert, good luck
John and Jan

Lifetime Member
My Profile  My Position  Send Message

2
FollowupID: 839475

Follow Up By: Louwai - Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 10:08

Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 10:08
Check out old vans on Gumtree that are for sale. That will give you an idea of the "going price".

A 30yr old van in good towable condition can be found for under $2k.
An empty shell in towable condition can be around $300

Anything not towable is pretty much a give-away...

Bryan
1
FollowupID: 839509

Reply By: snow - Monday, May 11, 2015 at 18:57

Monday, May 11, 2015 at 18:57
Crikey! I'm fairly optimistic by nature and enjoy a challenge buuut I'm thinking along the same lines as John here.
AnswerID: 553596

Reply By: Crusier 91 - Monday, May 11, 2015 at 19:02

Monday, May 11, 2015 at 19:02
Cheaper to purchase a decent old van than to fix and refurbish
AnswerID: 553597

Reply By: Bob Y. - Qld - Monday, May 11, 2015 at 19:43

Monday, May 11, 2015 at 19:43
Ask him how much he'll give you to tow it away.

At moment it would be health risk to sleep in it, with all the mould inside. Even if you stripped it, replaced the timber and relined the interior, the roof is still going to leak.

If you want a project, give him a carton of beer for it, strip everything to the chassis, put a new floor on it, and build the walls/roof out of Bondcor. But would be cheaper, in long run, to buy something a bit more liveable. Chassis doesn't look too bad, bit of rust-kill and gal paint, new bearings, tyres and rims...........and the list goes on.

Bob

Seen it all, Done it all.
Can't remember most of it.

Lifetime Member
My Profile  My Blog  My Position  Send Message

AnswerID: 553600

Follow Up By: pop2jocem - Monday, May 11, 2015 at 20:13

Monday, May 11, 2015 at 20:13
What Bob said, especially the bit about how much he is willing to pay you to tow it away.

I wonder how you'd go if you just kept the chassis and bolted a second hand 20' container to it. At least you wouldn't have to put up with the stench of this thing rotting away around you.

Cheers
Pop
3
FollowupID: 839483

Follow Up By: Member - mike g2 - Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 09:32

Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 09:32
Agree pop2, its a real beauty! sure looks like its sat about for quite a while. see quite a few( old) vans lying about farms- used for caretakers, shearers, visitors, farmers holiday to the coast etc...If your really keen renovator(but a bit too far gone) it maybe only good for a project strip down, high pressure clean, mould treatment, rust proofing, roof re-seal can be done with a sealing solution available commercially. ? worth the effort as money and value of time spent renovating= price of something better.
Cant say I've seen anyone convert or use a container-interesting concept-sure would be solid at 2-3t per avge container.
MG.
1
FollowupID: 839503

Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 12:49

Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 12:49
I liked Pop's suggestion about a 20' container too, Mike, though the weight issue, once renovated, might be an issue. However the OP said he'd only be taking it to a farm to use, so might be the goods.

Recently at local camp draft, one of the committee members had his new "caravan" on show. He'd had a 20' container fitted to an "A" trailer(that's the short trailer on a B double), and the interior refurbished to provide a most comfortable accommodation for his family. Even had a verandah, that slides out from under the container.

Didn't ask price, but wouldn't have been "cheap". Seen quite a number of containers made into workshops, generator sheds and temporary residences for out stations, mining camps and the like. The insulated fridge ones make really good accommodation units.....we used one of these for archival storage on the station and it was always cool inside, even on a day in high 40's.

Bob

Seen it all, Done it all.
Can't remember most of it.

Lifetime Member
My Profile  My Blog  My Position  Send Message

2
FollowupID: 839518

Reply By: TomH - Monday, May 11, 2015 at 19:56

Monday, May 11, 2015 at 19:56
Roof b**ered Walls the same. floor even worse.

Tyres will be stuffed as well.

Will be one big heartache and money pit to even be able to shift it
AnswerID: 553602

Reply By: rumpig - Monday, May 11, 2015 at 20:07

Monday, May 11, 2015 at 20:07
If you got it for free it may almost be worth worth the hassle of trying to fix it up as a weekender if you like a challenge, but i wouldn't pay a cent for it myself. That thing needs a bucket load of work done to it just make it water tight let alone habitable. The chassis itself may likely be structually sound, but on top of the cladding needing replacing i'd wonder what the timber frame (i'm assuming it is) is like behind that internal cladding?.... it'll likely be rotted out in places, the rubbers on the windows will be hard and cracking / breaking off etc etc etc.
AnswerID: 553603

Reply By: Phil B (WA) - Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 08:32

Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 08:32
Surely you jest - its knackered and dangerous , but I'm sure you know that.
There is a lot of difference between
‘Human Being’ and ‘Being Human’.





Lifetime Member
My Profile  My Blog  Send Message

AnswerID: 553620

Reply By: swampfox - Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 09:20

Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 09:20
hi
Basically u need to gut it out .
Repair leak ,most likely a new roof
Reline inside
Have a domestic fridge ,a queen size bed a small lounge and a small table
Alternate is to use the chassis with new coolroom panel and reuse the doors and windows .

swampfox

AnswerID: 553623

Reply By: brushmarx - Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 09:30

Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 09:30
It looks like a good opportunity to me, but it really depends on what sort of finish you are able to put up with compared to the work involved.
I had a need to supply hay and horse tack storage for my daughter when she moved from Brissie area to Roma and had her horse trucked up.
I paid $500 for an old caravan that was partly stripped out, complete with a roof leak. some wall lining damage, swollen chipboard cabinets and the shag carpet was mouldy. The chassis was similar to yours with surface rust,
A weekends worth of work stripping out the remainder of the furniture, a couple of tubes of silicon on the roof leaks, new door hinges, and a decent hasp and staple had it watertight and secure.
Two new tyres, and a self made light board, an unregistered trailer transport department permit for around $38 for a day and we towed it to Roma.
Same thing 2 years later and it was back to Kooralbyn, and now needs a new home rather than take it up to Rockhampton, as her new place has plenty of shed space.
If what you want is a mobile semi-rough living facility, in my opinion it's better than a tent, and at least it is up off the ground, insulated, has windows (and screens?) for ventilation and easy to fit power to it.
If you want to sell it later you should also get your money back, even if you do what many have done and rip off the top and make it into a car trailer.
Good luck with your choice, but if I had to do the same thing again, and the overall structure was half decent, I'd be willing to pay $500 or so similar to what I did previously, but buying from a friend you could try for far less.
Cheers
Ian
I'll get there someday, or die wanting to.

Member
My Profile  Send Message

AnswerID: 553625

Reply By: Mudripper - Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 12:10

Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 12:10
That's the sort of van Topgear should've used in their caravan challenge a few years ago. Trouble is, they were destroying vans in much better nick than this one!
AnswerID: 553628

Reply By: Member - Jaap (QLD) - Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 14:07

Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 14:07
Runaway, Runaway

Don't look back
AnswerID: 553634

Reply By: Lindie G - Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 15:39

Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 15:39
Nice size, but hopefully you didn't pay for this caravan or not more than ....$50 :) Looks like a lot of work and money before you can use it.
AnswerID: 553636

Reply By: fishboy - Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 19:13

Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 19:13
Thanks for the replies everyone. In spite of the resounding "RUN AWAY" chorus...I'm still contemplating getting it, if I can get it for the right price (almost nothing).

One poster suggested ripping the whole thing off and bunging a shipping container on it instead. I like this idea..I really just want something which is up off the ground, and can be moved around the property easily.

Does anyone have any other suggestions as to what else I could put on top of it (on a budget!) besides a shipping container?
AnswerID: 553647

Follow Up By: Member - ACD 1 - Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 21:04

Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 21:04
A bonfire!

Cheers

Anthony
VKS 3539
Work - a 40 hour interuption to my weekend!
Too many places - too little time

Member
My Profile  My Position  Send Message

1
FollowupID: 839549

Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 21:51

Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 21:51
All depends on how big, or small, your budget is, Fishy.

As well as the seatainer idea, you could always buy a cheap single axle van, in GOOD condition, rip out the axle and put on the chassis of your "intended purchase". Any spare room on the old chassis could be made into a verandah/lean-to, for relaxing, BBQ or wet weather protection.

I still like the idea of using Bondcor or similar composite panels. It's strong, already coated and the foam liner will keep the "van" cooler/warmer.

If you buy this old van, you'll be like the man with a wheel barrow, Fishy.

Bob

Seen it all, Done it all.
Can't remember most of it.

Lifetime Member
My Profile  My Blog  My Position  Send Message

1
FollowupID: 839553

Follow Up By: fishboy - Wednesday, May 13, 2015 at 14:33

Wednesday, May 13, 2015 at 14:33
Thanks for the ideas Bob Y.
I just priced Bondor cool room panels and they're $40/sq metre.

So for say a 5m(L) x 2.5m(W) x 2.2m(H) box, I'd be looking at about $1500 worth of panels, which is not bad I think given that -

1. they are already lined, inside and out
2. they come with the bonus of being well-insulated
3. they can be joined without any further framing (just some aluminium brackets) and sealed with silicone or similar to make weatherproof

So then I just bung in a couple of second hand windows, a door and Bob's your auntie!

What do y'all think?
0
FollowupID: 839577

Reply By: MEMBER - Darian, SA - Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 23:05

Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 23:05
Ok...so you found this derelict van in a scrapyard, took some pics and thought it would be funny to scam readers here....that has to be it...right ?
AnswerID: 553666

Reply By: Zippo - Wednesday, May 13, 2015 at 11:26

Wednesday, May 13, 2015 at 11:26
I didn't get beyond your first line. ".. buy ... off a friend" has always been a recipe for disaster, and has soured many a friendship.
AnswerID: 553687

Reply By: Member - John and Lynne - Wednesday, May 13, 2015 at 16:00

Wednesday, May 13, 2015 at 16:00
All that mould and damp would certainly be unhealthy and probably impossible to remove. Maybe you could connect power to it and gas but what condition is all the wiring and pluming? Surely, if you only want it for weekend visits and not long stays, a decent second hand tent with a fly would be cheap, simple and easy to move. You could even relocate or sell it later if you needed to. A portable camp stove and lamp and a good sized water container and you would be clean and comfortable with just a stretcher and a couple of camp chairs! Then you could try out the whole arrangement easily. At least you would not be investing many hours of time and quite a bit of money into a disaster with no resale value! John and Lynne
John & Lynne

Member
My Profile  Send Message

AnswerID: 553700

Reply By: fishboy - Wednesday, May 13, 2015 at 16:03

Wednesday, May 13, 2015 at 16:03
Thanks for the ideas Bob Y.
I just priced Bondor cool room panels and they're $40/sq metre.

So for say a 5m(L) x 2.5m(W) x 2.2m(H) box, I'd be looking at about $1500 worth of panels, which is not bad I think given that -

1. they are already lined, inside and out
2. they come with the bonus of being well-insulated
3. they can be joined without any further framing (just some aluminium brackets) and sealed with silicone or similar to make weatherproof

So then I just bung in a couple of second hand windows, a door and Bob's your auntie!

What do y'all think?
AnswerID: 553701

Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Wednesday, May 13, 2015 at 20:40

Wednesday, May 13, 2015 at 20:40
If you want a project Fishy, then go for it.

Was that price for 50mm sheeting, or are you going bigger? The 50mm should be good enough for what you want, and will be easier to put together than the bigger sections.

Might need some good ply for the floor too. Did you cost that too? You can use Bondor for the floor. Then you'll be able to hang a couple of sides of venison inside while you're away. :-)

Good luck,
Bob

Seen it all, Done it all.
Can't remember most of it.

Lifetime Member
My Profile  My Blog  My Position  Send Message

0
FollowupID: 839611

Follow Up By: fishboy - Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 07:13

Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 07:13
Yup, 50mm. They've also got a 50mm version with lighter gauge steel for a little cheaper $39.50.

Woops, yes I will need a new floor. You're quite right..if I stick with bondor for the floor then it will essentially double as a cool room! (I might have to use double glazed windows!)

I should be able to heat the whole thing in winter with a few candles, too ;-)

1
FollowupID: 839617

Reply By: Member - Scott M (NSW) - Wednesday, May 13, 2015 at 19:42

Wednesday, May 13, 2015 at 19:42
Go here.... plenty of sub $5k jobbies that are fairly neat. Honestly, by the time you factor your time & materiels etc. - it would be easier to get something cleaner

http://www.caravancampingsales.com.au/buy/results?sort=Premium&limit=15&Q=%28Price%3Drange[..10000]%26%28%28%28%28%28%28SiloType%3D[Dealer%20Used]|SiloType%3D[Dealer%20New]%29|SiloType%3D[Private%20Used]%29|SiloType%3D[Dealer%20Near%20New]%29%26SaleStatus%3D[For%20Sale]%29%26Category%3D[Caravans]%29%26Service%3D[Caravancampingsales]%29%29&offset=75&SearchAction=Pagination

[url=http://www.caravancampingsales.com.au/buy/results?sort=Premium&limit=15&Q=%28Price%3Drange[..10000]%26%28%28%28%28%28%28SiloType%3D[Dealer%20Used]|SiloType%3D[Dealer%20New]%29|SiloType%3D[Private%20Us]Caravan sales[/url]
AnswerID: 553711

Follow Up By: fishboy - Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 07:15

Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 07:15
Thanks Scott...will have a look. Haven't ruled this option out. I need to decide if I get one of these or build the coolroom-panel box!
0
FollowupID: 839618

Sponsored Links

Popular Products (13)