New Landcruiser & Patrol models

You would hope that they would take note of the sentiments on forum such as this and the patrol group. You would think they would be keen to get some focus groups together and getting a good sample would be relatively easy from here!

Michael,

You could try logging on to Nissan Australia's web site. They may have a client feedback or contact option.
However, as much as I love my Nissans (poor sorry mongrel, aren't I???), I doubt whether they'd take any notice of what you or I say we want in a vehicle.

Look at what Toyota did to their landcruiser's front suspension. I haven't heard any serious 4 wheel driver (journo's, competition dudes etc) say anything positive about the IFS as far as off-road-ability is concerned. I acknowledge that they probably ride better on the black stuff now, but if they'd bothered to seek "expert" opinion and listened to it, they would never have done it.

I reckon Nissan will, unfortunately, go the same way.....& there's SFA you or I can do about it except vote with our feet (but there's not much by way of an alternative anymore anyway). The Patrol is the last mainstream 4x4 except for the landrover (are they mainstream???) to still use solid axles at both ends.

Cheers,

Roachie

All they go on is whta the MAIN market wants. Genuine offroaders are about 10% of the sales of 4wds. So what do you think the other majority want?

Oodles of power? or economy?
Space for kids and DVD players?
IFS ghey suspension or coils??

Theres FA you can do but just take whats on offer.

I think IFS is well within the realms of use for most people who tour or go bush, and the added great ride and steering response that IFS brings as well.

I think some early IFS [pajero, hilux etc] have created a "IFS Phobia" to some people.

The US has 3 major rockcrawling vehicles now being developed with IFS, and they more development it gets, the better it will be.

A 100 IFS toyota has the same RTI as a standard GU, so there is no real loss of travel if comparing those 2 models, and the toyota can be ordered with twin factory lockers for <$900 which would help make up for any shortfall in travel over a live axle cruiser, for the .2% of the time someone may use the IFS to its limit.

Truckster, I'll take you on with my F%%^ Suspension, tell me where my IFS is not going to take me? Have sailed through many a sticky situation where my ol' mates with Troppies and live axels etc have had 4 or 5 attempts. Ever own a IFS vehicle and taken it 4wding? Bloody hell you guys have such closed minds somtimes...

Hey uppy, you've got petrol, I've got diesal, you've got live axel, I've got IFS, you have Nissan, I have Toyota do you reckon if we combined all of those together we might have a vehicle that would make Truckster happy, or is that impossible?

Uppy, looks like I'll be catching up with Benny on Sat night for few drinks. If your interested let me know!