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Submitted: Sunday, Jun 21, 2015 at 21:01
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Hi all

I am starting to look around for a new 4wd to replace my Jeep Cherokee classic from 2000, I also have a Falcon BF mk2 RTV ute and, ideally would like to replace them with the one vehicle and was thinking that a Dual cab ute might be the answer, but I have no idea as to which ones to start looking at. I would like something that is as comfortable to drive as the RTV and as easy to use as a 4wd as the Jeep any thoughts and opinions would be welcome. My other thought was to get something like a Jeep wrangler 4 door. I do Not want a land cruiser sized 4wd.
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Reply By: Idler Chris - Sunday, Jun 21, 2015 at 21:11

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Reply By: Jackolux - Sunday, Jun 21, 2015 at 22:01

Sunday, Jun 21, 2015 at 22:01
Do you do much 4WDing , tow . I have a new Dmax , would I recommend one that depends on what you want to do with it .
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Reply By: gbc - Monday, Jun 22, 2015 at 04:51

Monday, Jun 22, 2015 at 04:51
Drive them all. The most car like is the vw. But like the Rangers they are much bigger than a 200 series cruiser these days. The newest navara has a coil rear end and rides well by all accounts.
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Follow Up By: Gronk - Monday, Jun 22, 2015 at 11:40

Monday, Jun 22, 2015 at 11:40
At 120mm longer, but 120mm narrower, I wouldn't say they were much bigger than a 200 series !!

That's for a Ranger...
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Follow Up By: gbc - Monday, Jun 22, 2015 at 12:39

Monday, Jun 22, 2015 at 12:39
Ranger 5351 long - Cruiser 4990 long
Ranger wheelbase 3220 - Cruiser 2850
Ranger width 1850 - Cruiser 1970.

Actual figures are much more accurate I find.
The VW is nearly as long as the Ranger and only 20mm narrower than the 200, and both the commercials are much more of a handful to park than the nearly 400mm shorter wheelbased cruiser.

I'm not saying bigger is better, just saying they are bigger.

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Follow Up By: Gronk - Monday, Jun 22, 2015 at 13:20

Monday, Jun 22, 2015 at 13:20
All the dual cabs are longer than a 200 series, but all the dual cabs are narrower...so when you say bigger...maybe longer was a better term, and the 200 series is BIGGER inside..

I used the single cab figures before, so I was sort of wrong..
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Follow Up By: gbc - Monday, Jun 22, 2015 at 18:52

Monday, Jun 22, 2015 at 18:52
I kind of understand your point, but it doesn't make the dual cabs any smaller.
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Reply By: Sigmund - Monday, Jun 22, 2015 at 07:19

Monday, Jun 22, 2015 at 07:19
Or a Pajero. Good all rounder.
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Follow Up By: Sigmund - Monday, Jun 22, 2015 at 07:23

Monday, Jun 22, 2015 at 07:23
Utes with leaf springs & one tonne payloads don't exactly top the charts for a plush ride.
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Reply By: Member - tazbaz - Monday, Jun 22, 2015 at 08:15

Monday, Jun 22, 2015 at 08:15
Ford Ranger - smoothest, quietness car I've ever owned or driven
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Reply By: Michael H9 - Monday, Jun 22, 2015 at 20:18

Monday, Jun 22, 2015 at 20:18
You would like the fuel economy of a diesel Wrangler compared to what you have now. Dual cab utes aren't small cars with great turning circles. The Wrangler beats all of them off road. You already own a Jeep so you aren't as easily phased by the negative comments of people who have never actually owned one.....
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Follow Up By: Member - KBAD - Tuesday, Jun 23, 2015 at 11:51

Tuesday, Jun 23, 2015 at 11:51
I have owned several, never again....
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Follow Up By: Michael H9 - Tuesday, Jun 23, 2015 at 18:07

Tuesday, Jun 23, 2015 at 18:07
Diesel Wranglers?
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Reply By: Mick T3 - Tuesday, Jun 23, 2015 at 13:22

Tuesday, Jun 23, 2015 at 13:22
This may seem silly wilco318, but have you considered the Suburu Forester? It is really a car with an arthritic-friendly soft suspension, CVT, 8.1litres per 100km, 2.5 petrol or diesel motor, 1550kgs weight.

There are very few Suburu dealers outside of the cities, which makes it a disadvantage.

However, it has a decent traction control on its 'all wheel drive', plus 220mm clearance so it should get through some sand and mud though you wouldn't want to bash it around like you would with a Pajero or Prado. The basic model is about $34,000 Drive Away.
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Reply By: The Landy - Tuesday, Jun 23, 2015 at 13:43

Tuesday, Jun 23, 2015 at 13:43
Hi Wilco

Before you go down the “which one” route perhaps it is a worthwhile exercise to think about what you want the new vehicle to do in terms of your use. This might help narrow the field of the vehicles worth looking at.

Where does the balance of use lie, is it mostly off-road or on-road, perhaps 50/50%? Will you be towing, and how often?

There are plenty of alternatives once you get beyond those questions, and then it comes down to reliability that meets your use requirements, value for money type discussion…

Good luck with the search!

Cheers, Baz – The Landy
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Follow Up By: wilco318 - Thursday, Jun 25, 2015 at 18:49

Thursday, Jun 25, 2015 at 18:49
No I will not be towing. But to further inform everyone I live in rural vic and a ute does come in really handy. I have been into places like Palm Valley with the current Jeep and similar capabilities would be required, But as for the percentage of on/off road use 80/20, but when it's used off road it will be.
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Reply By: mountainman - Tuesday, Jun 23, 2015 at 16:47

Tuesday, Jun 23, 2015 at 16:47
Drive a 550 navara.
the engine is superb..
awesome on fuel, towing or not
heaps of power..
just runs away on steep declines..
but there is a fix online somewhere..
a wire and a switch.
mate loves his.
no issues as yet.
a bloke I nearly bought a car project off had a bt50 with 90k on the clock.
just out of warranty. .
His fighting them to cough up to replace the motor.
car sales do really good reviews on dualcabs
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Follow Up By: Slow one - Wednesday, Jun 24, 2015 at 07:37

Wednesday, Jun 24, 2015 at 07:37
Quote! A bloke I nearly bought a car project off had a bt50 with 90k on the clock.
just out of warranty. .
His fighting them to cough up to replace the motor.

LOL. Nissan seemed to have many engine problems, if I remember correctly.
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Reply By: Sid A - Wednesday, Jun 24, 2015 at 06:01

Wednesday, Jun 24, 2015 at 06:01
If you thinking double cabs I think you can't go wrong with a Ranger, DMax, Hilux, or if can stand the looks a BT50, After that it will come down to how you plan to use it and the creature comforts you want. If you are simply after a city tractor for the family and have the bucks an Amorok is very car like. I tested all the above 3 years ago and choose the ranger 3.2 xl auto. At the time it came down to family safety and engine power. 3 years on... It has been reliable with 60k on the clock, but not without having some annoying hickups along the way. A bracket on top of the transmission came lose and I went from a rolling round about start and this god awful BANG turns out the bugger would randomly shift out of drive into neutral and back again under power. Sounded like I forgot a bowling ball in tray. The gas saving feature of not fully charging the battery caused two callouts before dealer disabled the feature. It was a sure footed very comfortable ride. I have traded it in on an XLT 4x4. I again tested the competition as I am not brand loyal and found surprisingly the ford very well priced and the standard diff locks was the deal breaker. Looking to keep this one until I drive it into the ground. Take care.
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Reply By: gbc - Wednesday, Jun 24, 2015 at 07:31

Wednesday, Jun 24, 2015 at 07:31
The new ford Everest just showed up on my feed last night. While not too cheap ( it would appear they are matching Prado for basic spec and price which might not be so great), they do appear to have some pretty flash gizmos - lockers, active noise cancelling technology (can it be aimed at the passenger seat I wonder?), watts link rear end, lane control, speed adaptive cruise, 3 t tow etc etc. The engine and gearbox are lifted from the ranger so surprises there.
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Follow Up By: gbc - Wednesday, Jun 24, 2015 at 07:32

Wednesday, Jun 24, 2015 at 07:32
'So no surprises there'.....
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Reply By: Member - Syd R (QLD) - Thursday, Jun 25, 2015 at 18:00

Thursday, Jun 25, 2015 at 18:00
Just go Toyota You won't be sorry!!!
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Reply By: wilco318 - Thursday, Jun 25, 2015 at 18:44

Thursday, Jun 25, 2015 at 18:44
I thank everybody for there, time, opinions and thoughts. Time for me to read and take in what's been said and for a couple of test drives. Once again thank you.
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