Engel Extension

Submitted: Saturday, Apr 17, 2004 at 17:42
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I was down at ARB today and saw the extension for the top of an Engel to increase its capacity by 21L. This thing is in effect an esky with a hole in the bottom and no lid, that you plonk ontop of your engel, and put your existing lid on it. I would have thought $50 was a bit steep, but probably would have bought one. The ask is in fact $350.

This is a prime example of why so many good ideas fail.

Jim.
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Reply By: William - Saturday, Apr 17, 2004 at 18:59

Saturday, Apr 17, 2004 at 18:59
It is not a good idea as the compressor does not have sufficient capacity to cool the extra space.
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Follow Up By: Member - George (WA) - Saturday, Apr 17, 2004 at 19:28

Saturday, Apr 17, 2004 at 19:28
I have had one for 9 months.
The bottom section of the Engle fridge becomes a freezer, and the top section becomes the fridge.
Only draw back is that the Engle compressor is running all the time which put a heavy load on your battery.
Will need some sort of charging device, generator or solar, if you are planning on camping out for more than 1 night, without recharging the battery.
Apart from that the top, fridge section, is keeping everything cool enough, even the beer remains cold

cheers
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Reply By: GO_OFFROAD - Saturday, Apr 17, 2004 at 19:27

Saturday, Apr 17, 2004 at 19:27
Jimbo, I have to ask, given your attraction to cheap things, do you work for yourself? because if you do, I can understand why you need to be frugal,as you wouldnt charge enough, if you dont, I can see you have no idea what goes into developing a product, insurance, wages, business expenses etc, before hitting a limited market like Aus, with only a small potential customer base.

Are you sure the 40lt and 60 lt use a different compressor? as theya re same current draw, and that is a 20lt difference in size.

And once a space is to temp, with everything in it, there is no extra load on the fridge anyway, only to bring it down to temp.
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Follow Up By: William - Saturday, Apr 17, 2004 at 19:33

Saturday, Apr 17, 2004 at 19:33
"And once a space is to temp, with everything in it, there is no extra load on the fridge anyway, only to bring it down to temp."
you had better go on the Einstein Factor on ABC you are a dummy
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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Saturday, Apr 17, 2004 at 19:43

Saturday, Apr 17, 2004 at 19:43
Well maybe instead of insults you could explain why the fridge would need to run when it is down to temp, and the thermostat tells the motor it doesnt need to run, as then its up to the insolation, before it needs to kick in again, and why the fridge wouldnt take longer to go down to temp, or even if the 60 and 40lt compressors are different.

But then if you new that, maybe you could of explained some technical details in your post, instead of just shooting your fawking mouth off with a post that means jackbleepe for the topic, and shows you can get your mouth measured to buy shoes.....
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Follow Up By: Member Eric - Saturday, Apr 17, 2004 at 21:00

Saturday, Apr 17, 2004 at 21:00
Go off road . Well you chopped jimbo before , so I guess you opened the door for others to chop you. Anyway , lets not get into a fit , on whos who in the zoo, this is my 2 cents worth

The larger the fridge , the larger the outside area to atract heat , when a fridge is a cetain size , its not only the compressor that maters , the is condensor sizes ect . A fridge size is desighned to run on minimal power, so there for uses x componnents . The desighn above imeans you need to run your fridge on Freeze 24/7 . This would drain your battery alot quicker than on fridge due to the fridge cycling .
I think that the next size up in fridge would be around $350 anyway . so I think you would be better off just getting the one that was desighned to run such a area .

Anyway that only my opinion , hope it helps
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Follow Up By: Member - Sparky - Saturday, Apr 17, 2004 at 21:28

Saturday, Apr 17, 2004 at 21:28
William is a Waeco fan anyway...what do you expect?
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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Saturday, Apr 17, 2004 at 21:45

Saturday, Apr 17, 2004 at 21:45
Running on freeze with an Engel is only 2+ out of the 5 on the dial, which doesnt make them run all the time, only more often, and if its only until you have eaten enough out of the fridge to remove it while on a trip, it isnt really overworking the fridge long term anyway.

I took the option of the larger fridge, and got a 60lt engel instead of a 40 anyway.
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Follow Up By: Member Eric - Saturday, Apr 17, 2004 at 22:10

Saturday, Apr 17, 2004 at 22:10
i think that was a better option , I actually run a weaco , but love the look of a Engle , the look very robust . I opted for a 90 L weaco only due to price , cant go wrong for $750 out of fridge shop .
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Follow Up By: William - Saturday, Apr 17, 2004 at 22:41

Saturday, Apr 17, 2004 at 22:41
Sparky you are a brainless idiotic fool that can only pass dumb stupid inane usless posts. Get your mum to put you to bed and get off the big peoples group.
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Follow Up By: William - Saturday, Apr 17, 2004 at 22:45

Saturday, Apr 17, 2004 at 22:45
GO_OFFROAD did you pass grade 2? If you did how much did your mum bribe the teacher. GO_OFFROAD you have no idea to comprehend anything. It does not matter what the thermostat setting is if the compressor does not have sufficient capacity to cool the volume and consequently the compressor will then run all the time. A thermostat has b u g g e r all to do with time. Run off to bed little boy along with Sparky
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Follow Up By: Member - Sparky - Saturday, Apr 17, 2004 at 22:45

Saturday, Apr 17, 2004 at 22:45
Ouch! You have really hurt my feelings William...LOL
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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Sunday, Apr 18, 2004 at 08:35

Sunday, Apr 18, 2004 at 08:35
William, you stated setting the fridge to freeze, which is controlled by the thermostat, where the freeze setting is, now, if the compressor cant cool the extra space, maybe you can explain the difference between a 40 and 60 lt engel compressor, and how it does the extra 20lt of space, because as you have stated above, it the COMPRESSOR. [quoted below]

Now, do you know what the maximum capacity of an engel compressor is?

Do you know the duty cycle of the engel compressor?

if so would you like to share these? [that will prove you actually know something]

or are you just some wanker who spouts his mouth off, without knowing what he is saying, trying to bluff people into thinking your correct.....

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It does not matter what the thermostat setting is if the compressor does not have sufficient capacity to cool the volume and consequently the compressor will then run all the time.
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Follow Up By: Jimbo - Sunday, Apr 18, 2004 at 15:05

Sunday, Apr 18, 2004 at 15:05
Go_Offroad,

Your petty insults and superiority complex reflect a bitter and twisted individual. If I wasn't an atheist I'd say a prayer for you.

Jim.
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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Sunday, Apr 18, 2004 at 15:23

Sunday, Apr 18, 2004 at 15:23
LOL, yep, we are all as we post in real life jimbo.....;-)
[If you werent an aithiest, you would know the good book says you cannot remove the splinter from your brothers eye, until you remove the log from your own...;-) ]

But I actually thought the questions were pretty valid, and on topic, I note no answer yet though, does that mean you support the childish emails of William, given you didnt mention those?

Does superiority complex actually come from my answering peoples questions, or your perception of those, just because I dont shop on price alone?

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Follow Up By: Jimbo - Friday, Apr 23, 2004 at 21:32

Friday, Apr 23, 2004 at 21:32
Go to the circus,

You need to understand the difference between price and value. Part of the difference between the price of a Toyota and others is to keep John Laws and Greg the Golfer well heeled. Similarly the premium some pay for Nike shoes is because of the marketing dollars paid to Michael Jordan rather than the quality of the product.

Value is a value judgement. Will a $1000 generator outlast 5 $200 generators? I don't think so, that's why I bought a $200 Bunnings special. Your need to own "quality" products is your own choice. Don't criticise others for for exercising thier own judgement.

Jim
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Follow Up By: Jimbo - Friday, Apr 23, 2004 at 21:32

Friday, Apr 23, 2004 at 21:32
Go to the circus,

You need to understand the difference between price and value. Part of the difference between the price of a Toyota and others is to keep John Laws and Greg the Golfer well heeled. Similarly the premium some pay for Nike shoes is because of the marketing dollars paid to Michael Jordan rather than the quality of the product.

Value is a value judgement. Will a $1000 generator outlast 5 $200 generators? I don't think so, that's why I bought a $200 Bunnings special. Your need to own "quality" products is your own choice. Don't criticise others for for exercising thier own judgement.

Jim
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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Saturday, Apr 24, 2004 at 08:45

Saturday, Apr 24, 2004 at 08:45
Jimbo,
if you read my posts you will see we are actually on the same page on this, "poor people cant afford cheap things" = your value vs quality, which is what I have said all along.

Each individual has their own perception of quality though, as your post has made obvious.
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Reply By: Cobra - Sunday, Apr 18, 2004 at 11:40

Sunday, Apr 18, 2004 at 11:40
One of our club members has one and it works a treat. We looked at purchasing ourselves but with our shelving system, there is too much height to fit the fridge in the car.
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Follow Up By: Member - Ruth D (QLD) - Sunday, Apr 18, 2004 at 12:00

Sunday, Apr 18, 2004 at 12:00
Cobra, was hoping someone would bring this up. Have the same problem - not enough height. I'm having trouble coming to terms with the practicality of it all.
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Reply By: mungunya - Sunday, Apr 18, 2004 at 15:55

Sunday, Apr 18, 2004 at 15:55
Mate I took one to arnhem land last october after paying 350 clams.After nearly defrosting everything after 1 day we hunted it and used it as a box to store tinned stuff, expensive box ay. Buy a bigger fridge or perservere with what you have, they are a good thing. the dealer refunded the cost when we got home (put the walung into a honda eu10 now i am the man).
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