Rig Pic. What am I doing wrong!

Submitted: Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 17:00
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Bought a new fancy digital camera and still getting an awful image on my Rig Pic.
How do you guys get such a clear photo?

Heeeeeelp
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Reply By: TheUndertaker - Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 17:13

Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 17:13
Shakin an a shaking all over de place,,hold still or reset the aperture setting to the quickest your camera allows.
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Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 17:18

Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 17:18
Andrew,
At least you've got as far as getting piccy on there. I can't get that far....too old and senile to understand what it's all about.
But I've just about "conned" someone into helping me through it.
Roachie
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Follow Up By: Michelle from ExplorOz - Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 20:13

Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 20:13
You still having troubles mate? Just email it to me. I will do yours and Andrews if you wish and hope that my explanation in this post about how to do it might help others in the future.

Looks like someone needs to volunteer to be the resident graphic artist amongst the group who can do it for people that get stuck!

But, if you look at the maths I've just worked out, there could be a full 14 days of volunteer assistance there for someone. Actually, there are 214 pics loaded, so that leaves 466 that haven't worked it out, or don't want to do it I guess. That's actually 77hrs, 9.7 days of graphics to do, if they can do it at 10min a pic.

Phew! LOL.
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Follow Up By: Member - Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 21:12

Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 21:12
Roachie

love your pic...good one

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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew & Jen (Melb) - Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 21:23

Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 21:23
Michelle - I will give you ten out of ten for trying to be enthusiastic.

LOL

Andrew
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Reply By: Member - Andrew & Jen (Melb) - Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 17:20

Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 17:20
When you shrink it to fit, the resolution is set too low.
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Follow Up By: Member -Bob & Lex (Sydney) - Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 17:27

Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 17:27
The pic looks better now
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Reply By: Member - Sparky - Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 17:29

Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 17:29
Andrew

What resolution / pixel size have you taken the pics...they look very low resolution. Try resizing original (if recorderd as a high reolution) to 50k bytes or around 300 pixels (as per instructions on the upload section...). You may need to adjust the settings with your camera and try recording at a higher level. I normally take pics between 1-3MEG and then if I want to email or upload, I reduce/resize through editting software (should come with your camera).

If you get really stuck...email the pic to me...I'll see what I can do and then I'll email it back. Send me a member message with your email and then I'll give you mine.

Have fun

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Follow Up By: Eric from Cape York Connections - Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 20:50

Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 20:50
Sparky what a truck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! just a question why the whit roof.

All the best
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Follow Up By: Member - Sparky - Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 07:17

Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 07:17
Eric
I trust that this is a compliment? I do like the old truck...although have often considered upgrading to an 80 series...one thing about him (male truck as my rego number is 304 BOY) is he keeps goin' and goin'...

The white roof - needed a respray when i bought it...faded on top...like me...wwent white for a number of reasons...
1. remind me of my first car - '68 HK Kingswood (blue body/white roof
2. old tuck. all older people of distinction and wisdom are white (grey) on top
3. cost of white spray and metallic blue
4. maily because I have to park in the open and the white reflects the heat, keeping it cooler in the cabin
5. like to be different...although I have recently seen another blue 60 series up at the sunshine coast sporting a white roof too.

What do you use, Eric?

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Reply By: Member - glenno (QLD) - Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 17:42

Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 17:42
when i scan it into photoshop it scans it at say 300kbs but when i convert it to jpeg this format reduces it to about 30kbs , so i would scan it at a larger size so it ends up just below 50kbs . right click on your photo in your pictures folder and see how many kbs the picture is .
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Reply By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 17:51

Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 17:51
More to the point how do you get it to look so crap! ;-) (only joking!!)
It's all about converting it to the right size without effecting the aspect ratio. Feel free to email me the full size photo's and I can get them right for you and send them back so you can just upload them.
jeff@austechsurveillance.com.au
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Follow Up By: Member - glenno (QLD) - Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 17:54

Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 17:54
YOU___TALKIN____TO___________ME.
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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 17:58

Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 17:58
No, but I can help you too if you like. ;-)
Guys just scan them at whatever the hell size you like as long as it's nice and clear and a reasonable size. Then you can use your photo editing software to get it to the size you like.
There are different amounts of compression in Jpg files that you can adjust to bring the size of the file down without making your picture actually look smaller.
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Follow Up By: Member - glenno (QLD) - Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 18:05

Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 18:05
Ok Jeff M , how many dpi do i scan my photos in at. 75dpi,100,150,180,200,300,360,400,600,720,1200,2400, thanks.
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 21:13

Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 21:13
Glenno, you've scanned it wrong it still looks like a Troopy
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 21:17

Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 21:17
Glenno, I bite my tongue. You have Falcon seats in it, that makes it AOK in my book hahahahah
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Follow Up By: Member - glenno (QLD) - Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 21:20

Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 21:20
comes with a handbrake too. LOL
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Follow Up By: Member - glenno (QLD) - Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 21:26

Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 21:26
Bonz, spot my troopy in this photo.
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Victoria) - Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 22:56

Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 22:56
Why has your pic gone blue Bonz...give it some air
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 13:15

Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 13:15
Its in the left hand talk Glenno, I can see you waving from the top!
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 13:18

Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 13:18
Its in the left hand talk Glenno, I can see you waving from the top!
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Reply By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 18:08

Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 18:08
75dpi will be fine for putting your photo's on the interenet. Your computer monitor can only display 72dpi anyway, so anymore than that is a waste (unles you are planning on printing the photo's later).
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Follow Up By: Member - glenno (QLD) - Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 18:10

Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 18:10
thanks jeff
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Reply By: Michelle from ExplorOz - Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 18:20

Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 18:20
Andrew, the trick is in using your image editting software, not in the settings on your camera. The first step to picture reduction is to resize the physical dimensions to an acceptable standard, before buggering around with compression.

I suspect you compressed too heavily before reducing the dimension in this case.

You'll have to find the right buttons in whatever program you have and set the width to 300 pixels as a good starting point. Ensure your program is set to resize proportionately. Now save your pic as a jpg image. Jpg file format is a compression format and you will have some control over the amount of compression on a sliding scale or %.

If your camera already stores your files in jpg format, then still make this step but look for an option to alter the jpg compression in your image editting program - something like 20. Once its saved, find a button in your program that will show you the image properties. You should see a file size - as Kb. If you see it is no more than 50Kb then it will be accepted by our system when you upload it. If its just over, resave the file using a slightly higher compression, say 50. If its too low, then reduce the jpg compression to say 10. Go back each time to your image properties and check the pic before you attempt to upload it.

If all else fails - email original to me and I'll fix and send back.
Hope this helps you and any others having troubles.

By the way, I highly recommend Paint Shop Pro. It's far cheaper and just as capable as Photoshop for people that aren't up on all the Graphics lingo - but still want a good quality program that is user friendly and nt too had to get. It comes from Jasc Software and you can download it over the net about $170?. It's what we use, plus the accompaying Animation Shop software of theirs is what I use for creating the Banner Ads.
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew & Jen (Melb) - Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 19:53

Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 19:53
Edit all our photos for the hundreds of members - what a Gal..... lol lol
And let me say, it's free with your "Exploroz Membership Card" hahhaha
Andrew

(Maybe you should make a limit of 1 change per day per member... lol )
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Follow Up By: Michelle from ExplorOz - Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 20:07

Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 20:07
Gee thanks Andrew! lol - you're spot on here. I'd love to offer to do them for everyone as a favour, since its just a simple job, but let's just work that out... say 10min to fix each pic x 680 members = 14.2 days (assuming an 8hr day). ... ummm maybe I'll let the rest of the Forum users offer to assist instead.
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew & Jen (Melb) - Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 21:40

Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 21:40
I am ??S?D?F?DS?

I'm laughing at Michelle coz she's been to blardy generous and your having a go coz she's too blardy stingy............

........to spend two weeks of her time playing with our pics. Or maybe I just don't get it OBShafted!

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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew R (VIC) - Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 08:22

Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 08:22
Ta Michele.

I will give all that a go.

hoo roo
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Reply By: Member - JohnR (Vic) - Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 20:24

Wednesday, Apr 21, 2004 at 20:24
Just had a play with Roachies and it had been saved as a Bitmap (filename.bmp) which makes a too big a file for posting on the page. Read Michele's post above to see that they can be saved as a j-peg or filename.jpg. It give a lot better compression ratio.

I will change my rig pic from the poor little Suze here after the Wombat weekend assuming I get there.
Cheers,
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Reply By: Member - Andrew R (VIC) - Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 08:20

Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 08:20
OOOOOOOOOOeeeeeeeeee what a lot or replies. Makes me feel important hahahaha.

Thanks for all your offers to fix it. I want to have a go myself first. I have found another disk that came with the camera. (ArcSoft Camera Suite 1.3) I will give that a go instead of the Infraview whilst taking all the advice given hear.

Thanks to all.
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Reply By: Baz (NSW) - Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 08:44

Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 08:44
Andrew i've been told that the problem might be in the original file and that you might have shrunk it to small, try resizing it to as close to 50kb as you can.
Or maybe take more photo's and start again.

Baz.
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Victoria) - Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 10:17

Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 at 10:17
It does look like pixelation doesn't it. Been shrunk too small then blown up.
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