'Red book' puts Patrol 1-5% ahead of Cruiser in resale after 3 years.

Submitted: Saturday, Apr 24, 2004 at 17:09
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I was surprised by this untill I checked back through my magazines and realised it has always been this way. Prado however, is 1% ahead of Patrol. It shows the quality and desirability of these vehicles.
Patrol 67%
cruiser 62-66%
prado 68%
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Reply By: GO_OFFROAD - Saturday, Apr 24, 2004 at 19:00

Saturday, Apr 24, 2004 at 19:00
Is this over all, model by model, total?
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Follow Up By: Keith Scott - Saturday, Apr 24, 2004 at 22:43

Saturday, Apr 24, 2004 at 22:43
The patrol is steady at 67 across the range.
The Cruiser is 66 for the base v8 model and td and drops to 62 for saraha v8 and td
prado is 68 for all base (td,4cyl and 6cyl) and 67 all higher range.
commodore base 56%
falcon base 58%
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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Sunday, Apr 25, 2004 at 08:28

Sunday, Apr 25, 2004 at 08:28
When you state "always been this way" how long is always?

And given the series 1 GU 3.0 engine thing, Im surprised if it is constant resale % with the 4.2.
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Follow Up By: Savvas - Sunday, Apr 25, 2004 at 08:29

Sunday, Apr 25, 2004 at 08:29
Keep in mind that this is a national average. The actual resale can vary by location. For example a Patrol may hold it's value better in Sydney but a Cruiser might be better in Perth.
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Follow Up By: Schevchenko - Sunday, Apr 25, 2004 at 11:25

Sunday, Apr 25, 2004 at 11:25
GO_OFFROAD
son, its been that way since your mamma was wiping your nose. get used to it.
does it matter?
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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Sunday, Apr 25, 2004 at 11:41

Sunday, Apr 25, 2004 at 11:41
Well its a topic for discussion, ans is only text without data...

Would you prefer we only stuck to subjects you thought were worthy, because if it didnt matter,why would you feel compelled to reply?

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Follow Up By: Schevchenko - Sunday, Apr 25, 2004 at 16:49

Sunday, Apr 25, 2004 at 16:49
GO_OFFROAD
you seem to spend your entire life on this site. Its unbelievable, and deserves some kind of reward. I spend half my time here scrolling through your responses to everything. If you like I can assist you with some ideas (no fee required!) about how to get out and about more often, as you seem to be caught in a rut.
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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Sunday, Apr 25, 2004 at 17:45

Sunday, Apr 25, 2004 at 17:45
So scevchenko, your following me around, and Im stuck in a rut...... go figure....

Dont worry, here is a very small part of what i fit in a day, and when replies come to your in box, it makes for an easy reply when on a fast cable connection, on the chosen topics I have commented on.
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Follow Up By: Schevchenko - Sunday, Apr 25, 2004 at 18:38

Sunday, Apr 25, 2004 at 18:38
I was just reading your handi work on 12221. I had to tidy thigs up there.
That thread is still smoldering.
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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Sunday, Apr 25, 2004 at 18:46

Sunday, Apr 25, 2004 at 18:46
Well you call it tidying, i call it adding some more fuel, though Im sure you can answer the questions concerning your reply there. ;-)
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Follow Up By: Schevchenko - Sunday, Apr 25, 2004 at 19:01

Sunday, Apr 25, 2004 at 19:01
No. I put forward no question. and there is no answer. Just clarification. Just another log on the fire.
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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Sunday, Apr 25, 2004 at 19:04

Sunday, Apr 25, 2004 at 19:04
Yes, its obvious you put forward an "opinion" I asked a question or 2 about that opinion, so we can judge wether its worth thaking it on face value only, or if it has merit, based on what your answers are.

Only then will you give clarification.
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Follow Up By: Schevchenko - Sunday, Apr 25, 2004 at 19:26

Sunday, Apr 25, 2004 at 19:26
I don't remember your question. You seem to be confused about something.
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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Sunday, Apr 25, 2004 at 20:49

Sunday, Apr 25, 2004 at 20:49
No confusion here, as you sent the No for the thread you were reffering to, and commented on, unless you are confused on what you have posted ..
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Follow Up By: Schevchenko - Sunday, Apr 25, 2004 at 21:33

Sunday, Apr 25, 2004 at 21:33
Off road bloke - You have me confused with someone else. If you hear no more reply from me on this thread, its only because you're flogging your own dead horse, and its a hiddeous sight!

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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Monday, Apr 26, 2004 at 07:36

Monday, Apr 26, 2004 at 07:36
This is where you mentioned you had posted in the other thread

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Schevchenko posted this followup

I was just reading your handi work on 12221. I had to tidy thigs up there. That thread is still smoldering.

And this is where the question on your opinion was asked, but obviously your very easily confused, cant remember where you post, and dont have any understanding for what you post, so we shall treat your posts with the same contempt you do.

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Reply By: Member - StevenL - Saturday, Apr 24, 2004 at 19:16

Saturday, Apr 24, 2004 at 19:16
I'll take a punt that the resale on a Turbo Diesel Prado will be a little bit better again!!

When looking at these and deciding to buy a new or used one, every used dealer told me the same thing. "Don't see them too often as people tend to keep them longer and as such the ones that do come up command higher prices".

Steven
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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Saturday, Apr 24, 2004 at 22:20

Saturday, Apr 24, 2004 at 22:20
Factory Turbo diesel 80 series have also commanded an "above average" value retention too, though the 100 series resale hasnt been quite as good, with the V8, and peoples IFS phobia.....
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Follow Up By: Keith Scott - Saturday, Apr 24, 2004 at 22:51

Saturday, Apr 24, 2004 at 22:51
Stevenl - I'll be interested to hear how you find the prado. I am very interested in the gx td manual, only $5k more than a terracan!
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Follow Up By: Phil P - Sunday, Apr 25, 2004 at 11:49

Sunday, Apr 25, 2004 at 11:49
I still think that Toyota Diesels are the most expensive to maintain. There was a flurry of discussion on the Yahoo site about 2,500 & 5,000km service intervals to maintain warranty. My experience in VIC is that the Toyo's do retain there value slightly better than the Patrol's.
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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Sunday, Apr 25, 2004 at 13:07

Sunday, Apr 25, 2004 at 13:07
The 2500km and 5000km service intervals were discussed when performance tuning chips were discussed, and how an overfuelling device [after the ecu instead of before] can require more frequent oil changes [say 2500km] instead of prado td at 5000km, or 1hdft, 1hdfte 10,000km intervals because they can create more soot, and dirtier oil...

Ther is a link to the tech article containing the info here

LCOOL TECH ARTICLE ON DIESEL TUNING ETC
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Reply By: Mrs Diamond - Sunday, Apr 25, 2004 at 17:59

Sunday, Apr 25, 2004 at 17:59
of course what would you expect lol.
just kidding folk no need to reply
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Reply By: Schevchenko - Sunday, Apr 25, 2004 at 18:23

Sunday, Apr 25, 2004 at 18:23
The patrol's resale is probably higher because it is a somewhat more robust vehicle than the cruiser. The 'cafe scene' is a fickle market and has been detrimental to the cruiser's resales, as have excesive company/fleet sales. eg: Who wants a falcon when every taxi is one???
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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Monday, Apr 26, 2004 at 07:43

Monday, Apr 26, 2004 at 07:43
If what you say were true Mr schev, then why would the 120 sell more than double the older, cheaper nissan, and dearer 100 series?

If theya re fickle, as you state, they are certainly voting with their feet there.
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Reply By: Flash - Monday, Apr 26, 2004 at 09:28

Monday, Apr 26, 2004 at 09:28
I just love it when this debate comes up, so regularly.
I also love how those who've bought the more expensive vehicle try to justify their spending of their hard earned money. :)
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Reply By: Davoe - Monday, Apr 26, 2004 at 11:39

Monday, Apr 26, 2004 at 11:39
seems that while tojos are a bit dearer new they both sell for identical prices 2nd hand (equipment permiting) what does it mean dunno but I might as well have a stir by saying it makes cruisers a better 2nd hand buy!
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