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Submitted: Tuesday, Apr 27, 2004 at 22:36
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Hi Troopers, Any experts out there know whats causing those jaggered lines along my rig pic. Photos are taken at 4 megapixels are fine but the jaggered lines appear when I shrink and it's not a one off. Do I need to soften the pic or something ?
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Reply By: Member - Geoff & Karen - Tuesday, Apr 27, 2004 at 23:02

Tuesday, Apr 27, 2004 at 23:02
Mad Dog, just wait till Mrs Al comes on, she will know how you can fix it, she is good with the pics. She has helped me out a few times.
Karen
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Victoria) - Tuesday, Apr 27, 2004 at 23:18

Tuesday, Apr 27, 2004 at 23:18
Yeah, she seems to be the resident photo expert.
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Apr 27, 2004 at 23:05

Tuesday, Apr 27, 2004 at 23:05
90% sure its in the resizing. How big are they to start with?
you on ICQ send it to me, I'll try with my kit here.
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Victoria) - Tuesday, Apr 27, 2004 at 23:15

Tuesday, Apr 27, 2004 at 23:15
Pretty big Bruce..4 megapixel...I'm at work so can't send it ICQ at the moment.
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Reply By: Member - StevenL - Tuesday, Apr 27, 2004 at 23:19

Tuesday, Apr 27, 2004 at 23:19
Mad Dog,

It is the resizing. You may start out with 4 megapixels but when you get down to just 120 x 80 pixels as displayed on the thumbnail in the forum you lose the definition. The high contrast of the lines where the trim is along the sides of the vehicle and the door shut lines at the bottom of the doors on the diagonal angle just happen to show up this to the worst extent. There are just not enough pixels to show a thin dark line (that may be a shadow) against the white background with adequate detail.

You might be able to soften it up with some retouching but there may be fiddling involved! You could also try cranking up the save quality when saving the resized document but it is a fine balance to stay below 50Kb!

Good luck. Wish I could help but I don't have Photoshop at home, only at work.

Steven
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Victoria) - Tuesday, Apr 27, 2004 at 23:27

Tuesday, Apr 27, 2004 at 23:27
Thanks Steven. Thats sounds like a reasonable explanation. I'll have a play with it when time allows.
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Follow Up By: Member - StevenL - Tuesday, Apr 27, 2004 at 23:30

Tuesday, Apr 27, 2004 at 23:30
I downloaded your pic to my local drive and examined it further. When I opened it in my viewer it was 500 by 333 pixels. In the Rig pic window in the site it gets crunched down by the page HTML to 300 wide by 200 high which is what David and Michelle specify as the maximum dimension (50k max file size). This leads to the image looking like crap! The thumbnail shown in the lists is even smaller. Suggest you try saving it with size no larger than 300 wide and see how that looks.

Hope it helps

Steven
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Reply By: Willem - Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 08:49

Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 08:49
Not an expert on this subject but I tend to think that the problems lie with the new fandangled digital photograpy. Have never had a problem resizing pics that were taken with a normal SLR, developed and then scanned.I have been able to reduce pics to under 2kb. Maybe the pixels are too great in you camera application and hence the problem.

I have only recently bought a digi, but a 2 megapixel one, so as to learn all the facets of digital photography before I go upmarket with cameras.

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Victoria) - Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 09:18

Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 09:18
I had a play around last night after work with no joy, nothing worked at all. I only have to reduce the 4 megapixel pic 50% for the problem to appear. I had the same thought myself about reducing the pixels in the camera. I'll try that today.
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Reply By: Mad Dog (Victoria) - Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 12:08

Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 12:08
ok problem solved. Seems as though the dpi setting during conversion wasn't high enough, 72 was the default so I bumped it up to 300 which gives a lot smoother lines. Click on my rig pic for a look. Just have to learn to take decent pics now :)
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Follow Up By: Member - StevenL - Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 14:24

Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 14:24
Hey MD,

That is heaps better!

Cheers

Steven
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Victoria) - Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 14:32

Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 14:32
yeah, not the same pic as last night but it did exhibit the same problem.
I'm happy. Thanks Steven.
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Reply By: Member - Bradley- Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 15:09

Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 15:09
I found using microsoft photo editor and the image / resize function works well. i just resize down and save then check with windows explorer for the file size as it shows differently in the photo editor properties. Works for me.
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Reply By: Member - JohnR (Vic) - Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 21:06

Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 21:06
Ray. Michelle and I talked about it last week in here. I dare not ask you to do as Truckster suggested and look at the search function to find it.

Main thing is to make sure you Save As under the File menu a "filename.jpeg" file or jaypeg. It depends on the software package of your camera as to how it can degrade your file to minimse the file size to under 50kb but it should be pretty easy with the options there under the Save As menu option as it prompts for the file directory/file name/type(*.jpg or jpeg)

If you cant quite get it under 50kb you may need to crop it slightly.

Happy playing
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Victoria) - Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 21:38

Wednesday, Apr 28, 2004 at 21:38
Thanks John. I have no problems with how to downsize or upload pics etc I've been doing that for years. My problem was some of the straight lines on the vehicle were Jaggered or broken in the pic and it looks like your pics are exhibiting some of that as well. What I did was increase the dpi when shrinking from the default 72 to 300....problem under control.
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Victoria) - Thursday, Apr 29, 2004 at 01:18

Thursday, Apr 29, 2004 at 01:18
John, I've taken the liberty and resized your pics for you. They look heaps better. Still a small problem with the main pic though, it was huge but somehow you shrunk down the kb but it's resulted in a poor pic.
email me and I'll send you my effort. If you send me the original main pic I'll redo it even better...doesn't matter about the size...have cable

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Reply By: Member - Eskimo - Thursday, Apr 29, 2004 at 07:32

Thursday, Apr 29, 2004 at 07:32
I am suprised that no-one else has noticed its also made MAd Dogs' canopy look a different colour
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Victoria) - Thursday, Apr 29, 2004 at 09:03

Thursday, Apr 29, 2004 at 09:03
Thanks for reminding me Mo, I must get around to painting it but it's not a high priority. The canopy came second hand at the right price in one colour only. The owner said he could have sold a dozen at the 3 times the price if it was white but he couldn't be bothered painting it.
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