aircons in vans.

Submitted: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 at 18:47
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Been quoted $2500 fitted for a heron split aircon. This is in Nth.Qld. The excessive price begs the question; has anyone tried to fit one at home and if so what is the cost of the unit unfitted? Anyone in the southern states had one fitted recently.
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Reply By: GOB & denny vic member - Tuesday, May 11, 2004 at 19:10

Tuesday, May 11, 2004 at 19:10
denis
are you putting it in a full van or a pop top

steve
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Reply By: thomo - Tuesday, May 11, 2004 at 19:13

Tuesday, May 11, 2004 at 19:13
Im going to put a house split system on mine some time this year,Hell of a lot cheaper at around a $1000
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Reply By: DenisL - Tuesday, May 11, 2004 at 20:41

Tuesday, May 11, 2004 at 20:41
it is going in a poppie.
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Reply By: Member - Bigbear - Tuesday, May 11, 2004 at 22:21

Tuesday, May 11, 2004 at 22:21
Hi Dennis
Heron have 2 models 2.2 & 3.
I have been quoted $1535 plus fitting, for the 2.2 model,at their store in Welspool, PERTH WA. A lot of thier prices are negotiable.
Check out the site below,
http://www.camec.com.au/product.htm
Bigbear
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Follow Up By: DenisL - Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 09:20

Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 09:20
Thanks bigbear thats exactly what I was looking for. Had a 2.2 in a Jayco and it ran like a tractor. Tried a portable aircon in the new van but kept getting in the way. Her indoors not impressed. Cannot fit roof air because of shed. Cannot fit ordinary split because of room. So back to heron. $1.5 and my time seems a little better than 2.5.
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Reply By: Flash - Thursday, May 13, 2004 at 19:03

Thursday, May 13, 2004 at 19:03
I have a Fujitsu split reverse cycle fitted in my Millard Pop top. Works beautifully, cost me $800 all up as I was able to fit it myself.
Benefits... 1. Much cheaper.
2. MUCH quieter.
3. More efficient
4. True reverse cycle- many of the Herons use a heating element for heating.
5. Excellent multifunction remote control which works from any where in the van.
6. No internal cupboard space taken up by the compressor.
Disadvantages
The compressor/condenser unit needs to be fitted on the drawbar (Gas bottles go in the boot)
No problem. This unit is way, way better than the dedicated van airconditioners. It's no contest.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Graham & Ann - Tuesday, May 25, 2004 at 19:15

Tuesday, May 25, 2004 at 19:15
Agree with your comments, dont' have any personal knowldge but according to air cond repair/service centre another disadvantage appears to be problems caused if your travelling rough stoney dirt roads, compressor/condenser unit is not desigend to withstand the rigours of vibration and dirt road travel while mounted on the A frame.
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Follow Up By: Flash - Friday, May 28, 2004 at 10:08

Friday, May 28, 2004 at 10:08
Yeh, maybe.
But,
1.Mine has done many dirt road miles, (some pretty rough) no problems at all so far.....
2.Mates with Heron's have had problems with mud/dust/water etc getting into the unit through the vents, and bits falling off. (One model has holes cut in the floor for ventilation.....)
Meanwhile my condenser unit sits happily on the A frame with no holes in the floor OR wall of the van to let dirt in.
I'm happy!
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Flash - Friday, May 28, 2004 at 10:36

Friday, May 28, 2004 at 10:36
P.S.
It's so quiet, when standing at the door of the van you usually need to look at the fan in the condenser unit to see if it's actually running!
Like I said I'm (more than) happy!
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Graham & Ann - Sunday, Jun 06, 2004 at 17:26

Sunday, Jun 06, 2004 at 17:26
Thanks for the follow up Flash, your the 1st I've had feedback from thats used one on a van thats doing dirt roads, and you sure seem happy with the setup. I'm not a Herron fan and was considering doing what youv'e done when we had the van built, but was put off by the negative comments made by air conditioner/refrigeration service centre, but may well give it a try next time around.
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Reply By: DenisL - Thursday, May 13, 2004 at 19:46

Thursday, May 13, 2004 at 19:46
Thanks a lot on the reply.The fujitsu would kill the heron. I will look into it. Where did you put the cassette as they are normally long and skinny. Did you look at weights as in ball weight with the compressor out front. Have you any pics of your installation?
Thanks for the reply
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Follow Up By: Flash - Thursday, May 13, 2004 at 22:25

Thursday, May 13, 2004 at 22:25
Yeh, if you have an email address I could send you the pix when I get a chance. (don't know how to post them here)
Ball weight is fine for my 4wd, about 180 kg fully laden (originally closer to 160kgs) - a little bit heavier than original but not a problem. If that's a hassle just moving your water tank rearwards a little should solve any problem. Plumbing for the aircon went up behind the frig and the evaporator (indoor) unit sits just below the cupboards/microwave.
The unit has been there for about two years and perhaps 15,000 klms on the van- absolutely no problem. Runs rings around the Heron.
I normally support Aussie made, but the Heron is like agricultural machinery by comparison yet very expensive.....
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Reply By: DenisL - Saturday, May 15, 2004 at 08:58

Saturday, May 15, 2004 at 08:58
Flash, The email is "thelairds@iinet.net.au". Am off to cardwell for 10 days so no hurry for those pics. Would appreciate them as I am committed.
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Follow Up By: Flash - Friday, May 28, 2004 at 10:26

Friday, May 28, 2004 at 10:26
The photos have been sent, let me know if there's a problem.
Cheers
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Reply By: Nudenut - Sunday, May 23, 2004 at 16:38

Sunday, May 23, 2004 at 16:38
You have to licenced to touch open or shut down airconditioning systems due to the ozone protection Act...becarefull if you do it yourself...get a fridgie to do the pipework as he'll know what to do...we dont use plumbers pirping or flares etc as the are of different angles. After piping up it must be evacuated to remove air and moisture bot of which will stuff up the system if not removed...also a few other factors to keep in mind..
$10k fine if you get caught releasing refrigerant to atmosphere if not following refrigeration principals and or unlicenced
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Follow Up By: Flash - Friday, May 28, 2004 at 10:15

Friday, May 28, 2004 at 10:15
...partly true!
The flaring is the same.
The pipe is different (correct refrig copper piping has to be used)
Yes it does need to be evacuated before the gas is let out of the condenser unit into the plumbing and evaporator.
No gas is released into the enviroment.
For anybody who does not have the required skills/equipment you should get someone to help as required.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Nudenut - Friday, May 28, 2004 at 11:08

Friday, May 28, 2004 at 11:08
err flash
plumbing flares are 60 degree and refrigeration is 45
and the difference and only difference between plumbing pipe and refrigeration piping is that refrigeration is internally cleaned and dehydrated
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