78 series petrol V diesel

Submitted: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 17:28
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The petrol 78' with 165 kw seems to have the grunt over the very old 96kw diesel 78'.
I know that the "diesel" has many advantages over the "petrol" when 4wheelin, however I am weakening to the "rush of grunt". the turbo diesel is another 4 + grand. Could someone with good old common sense and experience give me their opinion, on the pros and cons.
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Reply By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 18:07

Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 18:07
The turbo diesel would be he way to go IMHO. After having both petrol and Turbo Diesel 4bys I have gone down the diesel track and will probally continue to in future.
However in saying that, there is deffinatally nothing wrong the petrols, the EFI petrols will probally last almost as long as the diesels if they are looked after well. They have more top end power, they don't use anywhere near as much fuel as they used to and new generation diesels have just as many electronics bits as EFi petrols that will leave you stranded in the middle of the desert with a torch and saying WTF.
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Pros: Reliable, Efficiant, Low end power, diesel is cheaper in rural areas, great for towing, longivity, they sound like real 4wds :-)
Cons: Generally more $ to service, if the motor shts itself it's gonna be expensive,diesel costs more than ULP in city, can be less powerful (depending on vehicle), you get diesel on your hands everytime you fill up (and it won't go away for hours).
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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 18:08

Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 18:08
Oh yeah another pro, you can carry more deisel in / on your car than you can ULP and you can store it in Jerry cans reasonably safley inside your car (not that you will prob need to in a troopy anyway).
Another con, if you run a generator, 4 stroke bike or boat you have to have two different types of fuel with you.
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Follow Up By: fat bastard - Friday, May 14, 2004 at 01:53

Friday, May 14, 2004 at 01:53
fantastic Jeff, really appreciate your experience.
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Reply By: Kiwi Ray - Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 19:10

Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 19:10
Hi
No contest. Go diesel and spend the extra for the turbo, you will never go back
Ray
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Follow Up By: fat bastard - Friday, May 14, 2004 at 01:54

Friday, May 14, 2004 at 01:54
thanks Ray.
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 19:13

Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 19:13
What do you want from the car.???

You have asquillion questions, which is a good thing when wasting $50-60,000 but what do you want to do with the car?

Tourer? Weekday car? Weekend warrior car? Tow the work trailer? Camper on the back? Tuff Truck Challenge?

Petrol will always have more KW than Diesel. Then petrol will always use more fuel than a Diesel.
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Follow Up By: fat bastard - Friday, May 14, 2004 at 01:57

Friday, May 14, 2004 at 01:57
good questions truckster, I suppose I wanted to find out wether petrol which is great in the city can cut the mustard in hard stuff.
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Reply By: colin - Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 20:32

Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 20:32
Hey fat, totally agree with truckster, if your a city slicker going for occasional weekend trips, petrol is the way for you, if you do a lot of towing or long trips out west or where ever diesal is the way. Diesals hold there price better which makes up for paying in the first place. Another option is to get a non turbo diesal and either super charge it or turbo it when the hip pocket allows. Col
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Follow Up By: fat bastard - Friday, May 14, 2004 at 01:59

Friday, May 14, 2004 at 01:59
Thanks colin.
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Reply By: Bob Y. - Qld - Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 20:49

Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 20:49
Fats,

Only $4K extra for the turbo 78/79 series? Cheap at twice the price. The 80 series TD wagons were about $12K dearer than the "puffers".

Even for a town ute you can't go past the turbo, they boogy in all the right places.

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Follow Up By: fat bastard - Friday, May 14, 2004 at 02:01

Friday, May 14, 2004 at 02:01
The gxl 100 series turbo diesel appears to be 10 grand dear as well. Thank god for the 78 series. thanks Bob.
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Reply By: John - Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 21:34

Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at 21:34
Hi fat one
I have had a 75 series and a 78 series Troopy both in petrol and on gas.

The petrol motors have been great plenty of grunt etc no issues from my perspective great trucks.

I am now on my 3rd Troopy another 78 series this one is a RV model with the Turbo diesel.
I was concerned about the diesel when confronted with the issue that the troopy is no longer avaliable in the petrol.
I imagined thet the diesel would be slow and lack pick up etc.

How wrong was I, the Turbo Diesel is a fantastic engine and well worth the extra cost no issue.
It has more low down torque for the low range work better fuel consumption better engine braking on steep slopes I could go on.
I would now not consider buying a petrol engine for 4wdriving etc.
Buy the Turbo Diesel you won't go wrong.
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Follow Up By: fat bastard - Friday, May 14, 2004 at 02:04

Friday, May 14, 2004 at 02:04
Thanks for sharing your experiences John. You really seem to sing the praises of the turbo.
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