French Backpackers stealing and leaving a mess behind

Submitted: Friday, Jul 31, 2015 at 11:53
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As we have been travelling through Central Australia and WA we are seeing some rather disgusting behaviour from a certain international traveller. I don't mean to label all the French tourists as pigs but a lot of campers are experiencing some tourists, especially young French backpackers leaving their rubbish all over camp kitchens for others to clean up. In the NT they are arriving late in the evening at camp grounds, using the facilities and leaving before the ranger can collect the fees. In Broome at a particular caravan park they have been identified and caught stealing from vans whilst the owners are out. These people should be made aware that we don't want their kind arriving in our country, trashing it and leaving without paying. Most people do the right thing but this element needs to be gotten rid of. If any of you scum bags are reading this you better not run in to me because if I catch you out, you'll know about it.
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Reply By: Sigmund - Friday, Jul 31, 2015 at 12:08

Friday, Jul 31, 2015 at 12:08
I don't think we want a 'carriage service' used to make threats either.

Appreciate your concern but leave the abuse and threats out.
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Follow Up By: Member - santta - Friday, Jul 31, 2015 at 12:21

Friday, Jul 31, 2015 at 12:21
Im sorry my friend but I don't think you do fully appreciate my concern and whats more if I could speak French I would post it on one of their forums
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Follow Up By: Sigmund - Friday, Jul 31, 2015 at 12:31

Friday, Jul 31, 2015 at 12:31
You may be surprised by how many of 'these people', 'this element', 'these scumbags' etc speak English, and in time will have read your post, given how many French explore extensively in Australia.

And at how many will take offence at your generalisations.
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Follow Up By: Member - santta - Friday, Jul 31, 2015 at 12:54

Friday, Jul 31, 2015 at 12:54
yeah well read it again. I some 'some'.
Hardly a generalisation.
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Follow Up By: Sigmund - Friday, Jul 31, 2015 at 14:21

Friday, Jul 31, 2015 at 14:21
How did you know that 'some' were French, given that you don't speak the language?
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Follow Up By: Bigfish - Friday, Jul 31, 2015 at 15:55

Friday, Jul 31, 2015 at 15:55
Didn't he say they had been identified?
I,d like to catch em and give em a good flogging.
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Follow Up By: jamesw - Friday, Jul 31, 2015 at 16:41

Friday, Jul 31, 2015 at 16:41
Sigmund, I have no problem with identifying anyone who does the wrong thing. I am sure that the French tourists that are doing the correct thing while in our country would not appreciate the culprits giving them a bad name. It seems that you are an apologist for the wrong dowers, by the tone of your posts. Maybe I am just reading it incorrectly.

James
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Follow Up By: CSeaJay - Friday, Jul 31, 2015 at 16:51

Friday, Jul 31, 2015 at 16:51
Sigmund you are overly critical

There is nothing wrong in the description of these lowlives, who do not realise that they are hurting battlers
It is not a generalisation, it is identifying the people involved.
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Follow Up By: Member - santta - Friday, Jul 31, 2015 at 17:04

Friday, Jul 31, 2015 at 17:04
I think Sigmund just needs a reality check
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Follow Up By: Steve in Kakadu - Friday, Jul 31, 2015 at 21:42

Friday, Jul 31, 2015 at 21:42
Yep French backpackers are doing the same here, I concur with santta.
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Follow Up By: Michael H9 - Friday, Jul 31, 2015 at 23:39

Friday, Jul 31, 2015 at 23:39
I've seen rubbish and bad behaviour from one end of the country to the other for quite a few years. Those buggers really get around don't they? For a few French people, they are really doing a saturation campaign....they'd have to start early, get in late and not clean up to fit it in covering all that ground. Or, there could be a large team of bogan Aussies helping out?
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Follow Up By: Luke F1 - Saturday, Aug 01, 2015 at 09:04

Saturday, Aug 01, 2015 at 09:04
Great post santta. Too many do gooders in this country. Thats why these people get away with it.
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Follow Up By: Batt's - Saturday, Aug 01, 2015 at 22:26

Saturday, Aug 01, 2015 at 22:26
I must have read it wrong I didn't pick up on a threat he only said they'll know it nothing specific said as far as anyone knows he may be implying that he will drag them up to the local cop shop by their ear I think you jumped the gun a bit sig baby.
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Follow Up By: Steve in Kakadu - Monday, Aug 03, 2015 at 06:56

Monday, Aug 03, 2015 at 06:56
6 French backpackers were found rifling through the fridges at Cooinda the other night, they apparently had a great feed at others expense.
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Reply By: Member - Milton477 - Friday, Jul 31, 2015 at 13:37

Friday, Jul 31, 2015 at 13:37
We were in Mundubbera QLD last month. Same story, same people, IGA was the loser.
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Follow Up By: Slow one - Friday, Jul 31, 2015 at 19:06

Friday, Jul 31, 2015 at 19:06
Milton,
I have had some good times in Mundubbera spanning
over 40 years from friendly property owners and locals. Especially the Royal hotel.

From what I have been told by the locals, they respect the Islanders, Vietnamese and Koreans. They are not fussed at all on the other Euro races that come to pick citrus, as they always seem to cause problems.

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Reply By: Member - John G - Friday, Jul 31, 2015 at 17:34

Friday, Jul 31, 2015 at 17:34
G'day Santta

You do say "identified and caught stealing". That would seem to me to be a positive outcome, providing they are charged etc.., and it would seem to me to have the effect of going some way to eliminate the problem.

And as you report having seen the traveller, is it reasonable to assume that you have reported the behaviour to the police? This would also lead to elimination of the problem, at least the problem caused by "a certain international traveller".

I think it's also a reasonable observation that there are some folks 'of our kind' who do the same thing as the folk that you refer to. All thieves, fee evaders, and rubbish spreaders spoil it for the rest of us.

Cheers
John

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Follow Up By: Member - santta - Friday, Jul 31, 2015 at 17:55

Friday, Jul 31, 2015 at 17:55
The information I received is from a fellow camper and I must admit the two words were used loosely. Apart from the theft issue which I cannot substantiate, I have personally witnessed the mess at two caravan parks in NT and they were from the particular European country and this is my point. I am obviously not alone as other people have witnessed the same problem.
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Reply By: broometime - Friday, Jul 31, 2015 at 22:56

Friday, Jul 31, 2015 at 22:56
These european back packers are a problem in the Kimberly and are trusted.
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Follow Up By: broometime - Friday, Jul 31, 2015 at 22:58

Friday, Jul 31, 2015 at 22:58
Ment to say NOT trusted
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Follow Up By: Grumblebum and the Dragon - Saturday, Aug 01, 2015 at 08:07

Saturday, Aug 01, 2015 at 08:07
We met two French backpackers up at Somerset Beach in Cape York - Our initial assumption was "Ah - a pair of feral looking individuals" They turned out to be really nice guys and really we enjoyed a few wines with them over the next few days. Initial impressions can be so wrong!

John
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Follow Up By: Member - Terry. G (TAS) - Monday, Aug 03, 2015 at 00:50

Monday, Aug 03, 2015 at 00:50
santta
Yes we were recently in Broome ourselves and had friends staying in that park that you never mentioned the name of .At the same time that the vans were broken into and stuff stolen
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Reply By: 322 - Saturday, Aug 01, 2015 at 08:58

Saturday, Aug 01, 2015 at 08:58
I have witnessed this myself first hand. We stayed in the Grampians for three nights. We paid up front for our site at $38 per night. On average, at around 9.30-10pm nightly. The backpackers would roll in set up camp. In the process disturb every one else. Then pack up again at 5.30-6am. Again disturbing every one and then buggering off. I assume the strategy here was arrive late, leave early and don't pay. Then my kids would go over and clean up their mess. We even took rubbish into town that some Asian tourists had left behind. These people are not paying their way. I believe the way to address this is through the rental van companies. If these people get caught camping where they shouldn't or without paying. Send an infringement notice to the rental company and they can take the fine out of the bond for the vehicle. Or back charge the renter via credit card. This would then put onus on the industry and the people who do the wrong thing.
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Follow Up By: Gronk - Saturday, Aug 01, 2015 at 09:41

Saturday, Aug 01, 2015 at 09:41
I presume the $38 was for a powered site at a caravan park ? I would hope so, because if it was a campground, no wonder they didn't like paying !! I'd be trying to avoid paying myself if confronted with prices like that !!

I've found most backpackers know where all the free camps are, but maybe like in your report, they are getting cheekier.

Maybe a standard printed flyer by the rental companies pointing out dos and don'ts in Australia MAY help..

We had 2 lots of Chinese backpackers at a van park on the GOR and although they couldn't talk english and they took over the camp kitchen, they left it clean and tidy.
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Follow Up By: 322 - Sunday, Aug 02, 2015 at 20:40

Sunday, Aug 02, 2015 at 20:40
No it was un-powered in a designated camp area. I did say $38. My wife said its was only $35. I apologise for the incorrect info.
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Reply By: Member - KBAD - Saturday, Aug 01, 2015 at 11:21

Saturday, Aug 01, 2015 at 11:21
Some of it is ignorance and other bits are plain "hey I am visiting the once and then going home so IDGAF". I ran tour groups through the Kimberley and it always embarrassed me the amount of rubbish i would see left behind and the habit of some to want to carve their initials or spray paint some slogan, like that in some way justified their existence or saved them from the inevitability of their own demise.
But i think it is broader than just a few backpackers, locals and others can put their hands up for some of that as well. As I have said in the past those that do the right thing will continue on and those that don't will do the same as they ever did. Do i wish that i could visit some terrible justice upon them, yes, will I probably not, as i value my freedom to much and quite frankly i don't believe those oxygen thieves to be worth it.
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Reply By: Batt's - Saturday, Aug 01, 2015 at 22:16

Saturday, Aug 01, 2015 at 22:16
Orf with their heads.
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Reply By: get outmore - Monday, Aug 03, 2015 at 10:13

Monday, Aug 03, 2015 at 10:13
cultural differences.
here in Australia its considered shamefull to steal. I travelled with a German back packer and they have a totally different culture
stealing is totally fine as its up to the shop etc to make sure you cant steal. the shame isnt in stealing its in allowing your stuff to be stolen
she couldnt believe the self serve isle in coles - backpackers call it the free food isle
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Follow Up By: Danna - Tuesday, Aug 04, 2015 at 00:37

Tuesday, Aug 04, 2015 at 00:37
Dear get outmore
Cultural difference? .... I just can't believe you would swallow and spit here such lie ..... German who told you that, was most likely laughing his head off, behind your back! Don't believe it!!!. To steal is shameful in Europe as much as in Australia!
No cultural difference or any thing else.
HooRoo Dana
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Reply By: Member - Mark (Tamworth NSW) - Tuesday, Aug 04, 2015 at 07:12

Tuesday, Aug 04, 2015 at 07:12
I sent this thread for comment to one of my adult children who has been working in Germany in the backpacker orientated hospitality industry for the past two years. He has also travelled extensively through Europe, USA and parts of the Americas & southern Africa.
His comment was that in Munich Australian backpackers have the worst reputation for behaviour of all young travellers, especially during Octoberfest when the Australian Embassy (based in Berlin) has to set up a temporary embassy in Munich to deal with the strife young Aussie get into. When he has to call the Bavarian Police to help with unruly late night behaviour at the business he works in, the Police ask the nationality of the troublemakers, if they are Australians they respond with extra police.

Could it simply be a "type/demographic" of western traveller rather than a specific nationality, we seem to be comparing predominantly older Aussies you see on the road with younger Europeans?
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