Hilux D4D 3.0lt common issues

Submitted: Tuesday, Oct 27, 2015 at 10:24
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Hi this is not to bag the brand but to help keep people informed

clutch fade at drive 100kmh for more than one hour then accelerate ,the accel is soft .
Tacho is very soft/slow to move respond etc
After the 3rd clutch even the economy improved about 50km per tank

upgraded leaf eye bushes to help with the jarring rear suspension 011 012 onwards

diamond tipped injectors to help stop excessive wear 011 012 onwards

Bad water pump bearings in early versions

swampy
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Reply By: swampy - Tuesday, Oct 27, 2015 at 10:31

Tuesday, Oct 27, 2015 at 10:31
Hi
What are your experiences ???

Swampy
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Reply By: TerraFirma - Tuesday, Oct 27, 2015 at 11:32

Tuesday, Oct 27, 2015 at 11:32
Swampy, My 06 Hilux Auto had the injectors replaced at 120,000kms. Water pump was replaced when Timing Belt was serviced given the labour involved. Other than that and the re-call on the clock spring, I have clocked 290,000KM's without fault. The early Denso Common Rail injectors were a problem across all makes of vehicles and yes the new Diamond Tipped are durable and have clocked 170,000Km's in my Hilux since replacement. In my case the injectors were my only real complaint. No clutch issues for me as it's an Auto. I am very happy with the D4D.
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Follow Up By: swampy - Tuesday, Oct 27, 2015 at 11:53

Tuesday, Oct 27, 2015 at 11:53
hi
Prior to purchasing I watched a training video on DIDiesel . An example within this video was in some detail the replacements for the D4D . From memory it was at least 4 different types b4 the diamond tip 011/012 type .

swampy
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Reply By: Jackolux - Tuesday, Oct 27, 2015 at 12:45

Tuesday, Oct 27, 2015 at 12:45
D4D Hilux and Prado , had plenty of problems all those mentioned above , plus the 4 speed auto in the Lux had overheating issues , keep a eye on the bottom shocker bushes if you do much corrugated dirt or 4x4 bush driving , if you don't you will break shockers and the breaks suck .
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Follow Up By: Jackolux - Tuesday, Oct 27, 2015 at 13:00

Tuesday, Oct 27, 2015 at 13:00
I mean the brakes , the stoppers , suck
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Follow Up By: swampy - Tuesday, Oct 27, 2015 at 17:10

Tuesday, Oct 27, 2015 at 17:10
HI
Accept that shocks do explode from over work and can fall apart . Shocker bushes just needs to be the correct softness[duro] and it will last . The hard eurothane types are rubbish .Many years in the mines proved that .

What was wrong with the brakes ???

swampy
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Follow Up By: Jackolux - Tuesday, Oct 27, 2015 at 21:38

Tuesday, Oct 27, 2015 at 21:38
Swampy , Mate go do some research on the Hilux forum , crappy brakes , broken front shocks , the D4D injector death rattle , the injector seals that leaked and cost many , Hilux , Prado owners a new motor .
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Follow Up By: AlbyNSW - Wednesday, Oct 28, 2015 at 08:23

Wednesday, Oct 28, 2015 at 08:23
Jackolux to get it all in perspective there are substantially more people that have had no issues with their Hilux than what have, it is just nobody reports back that "my vehicle performed correctly today "
But you hear about it when they don't.

The brakes in the earlier stages of that model were only average, they changed them in about 09 to bigger brakes when they upped the rim size from 15 to 16 inch

Speaking to the owner of one of the larger independent diesel specialists and he told me that they don't see any more D4D issues than what they do with any other make

The broken shocks issue was always to do with aftermarket product and modified vehicles and was either worn bushes or strut spacers that was the problem

Transmission overheating when towing with an auto is addressed by adding an additional cooler, cost me $120 at Repco plus some labour to fit

I am not sticking up for the Hilux, just being realistic that ALL makes and models have their archilles heal that you need to be aware of

Jump on any brand specific forum and read the complaints
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Follow Up By: Jackolux - Wednesday, Oct 28, 2015 at 09:50

Wednesday, Oct 28, 2015 at 09:50
Yeah l know all that , l bought a new Dmax in Jan this year , l have already discovered a couple of issues , the very weak CV's are a consern , my second time in the bush l broke one , l couldn't believe how easy it broke .

With the Hilux after I broke the 2nd front shock , l realised that keeping a eye on the bottom bushes was the answer , because l did a lot of rough corrugated roads and 4wding in the Vic Highcountry , l had to change the bushes regularly.

I talked to many Diesel Injection Services , and l mean many , Toyota did have a major problem more so than most others ,

The 4 speed auto was a problem , l did fit a extra cooler , it was still a dog of a trans , but then they went to the 5 speed .

The injector seals , l personaly know of several blown motors , both Hilux and Prado , the seals were recognised as a problem in Europe and NZ , but Toyota said not Australia , conditions are different here ,

Late last year l get a " Service Notice " from Toyota in the mail , saying there could be a issue with the injector seals with some D4D motors , you could notice unusual engine noises , bring it to a dealer and they will be replaced free of charge .

But you are right all vehicles have issues , some handle warranty claims better than others , Toyota is not one , neither is Isuzu .
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Follow Up By: swampy - Wednesday, Oct 28, 2015 at 10:10

Wednesday, Oct 28, 2015 at 10:10
hi
Jackolux
Very interested in the letter u received about hilux injectors .Any further info on this ??

What are the factual no bullsh#t forums for Toyota Hilux ???

swampy
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Follow Up By: Jackolux - Wednesday, Oct 28, 2015 at 10:54

Wednesday, Oct 28, 2015 at 10:54
I don't think I still have the letter , l did keep it for sometime , it really got under my skin , l thought you b******s , what about all those that had to replace their motors at about 18 grand .

I was ok because I had my injectors replaced and the right seals installed not by Toyots all the Diesel Services I talked to knew about the seals , but Toyota were still saying it wasn't a issue .

If you do a search for New Hilux Forum , you will find plenty of info on all things l have mentioned .
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Follow Up By: Jackolux - Wednesday, Oct 28, 2015 at 11:03

Wednesday, Oct 28, 2015 at 11:03
I just did a web search for " Toyota Injector seal service bulletin " you will find plenty of info
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Reply By: Michael H9 - Tuesday, Oct 27, 2015 at 19:19

Tuesday, Oct 27, 2015 at 19:19
Toyota "real world experiences" of this nature aren't really welcome here. Please restrict yourself to Jeeps, Land Rovers or Amaroks when discussing this type of subject matter. Well....3 litre Patrols are allowed too, just steer clear of Toyota unless it is about how wonderful they are. I hear they are now the ram raiding, bush bashing vehicle of choice for wanted criminals. They can't stop the accolades. :-)

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Follow Up By: Bill D6 - Wednesday, Oct 28, 2015 at 06:52

Wednesday, Oct 28, 2015 at 06:52
I have an 01 HiLux. In fact picked it up on 9/11. An early 3L. Never had any mechanical problems. Haven't even changed the clutch. Just serviced every now and again. It has done over 300,000 km. Didn't re-register it this year and it is now a farm ute. The only problems it has is a tendency to attract kangaroos and big stumps in long grass! It has never been back to a Toyota dealer.
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Follow Up By: Michael H9 - Wednesday, Oct 28, 2015 at 07:38

Wednesday, Oct 28, 2015 at 07:38
Mate, I believe you. Toyota are still living off the reputation of cars like that. I hear enough stories to know you will probably be disappointed if you upgrade to a newer model. When you go for more power, better fuel economy and more electrickery, it has to introduce a higher chance of annoying failures.
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Follow Up By: Bill D6 - Wednesday, Oct 28, 2015 at 07:48

Wednesday, Oct 28, 2015 at 07:48
That's exactly why I never upgraded it or took it back to a Toyota dealer. I bought a 79 GXL single cab a year ago because they are still engineered in the 70's era. I'm just hoping the V8 does not cause any problems. I also have a Toyota Stout which was the very early Hilux - bought new in 1979 and still running on the farm. Rebuilt the petrol motor about 10 years ago.
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Follow Up By: Jackolux - Wednesday, Oct 28, 2015 at 12:22

Wednesday, Oct 28, 2015 at 12:22
The saying they don't make em , like they used to , is spot on when it comes to modern 4x4's , l had the early Diesels , yep they were gutless compared to the modern CRD , motors , they just kept rattling on .

That was the reason l have just bought a new Isuzu Dmax ,they are still a CRD , but not quite as many electronic gizmos as some , time will tell how reliable it is .

The Dmax CV's do consern me , it did break very easily .
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Reply By: Bosun Broome - Wednesday, Oct 28, 2015 at 09:52

Wednesday, Oct 28, 2015 at 09:52
My sons 2005 SR5 had to have the injectors replaced at great cost. The thing that annoyed him the most was that Toyota New Zealand did a recall on injectors but when he bought this to BROOME Toyotas attention they said " you should have bought one in NZ.
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Follow Up By: Jackolux - Wednesday, Oct 28, 2015 at 12:13

Wednesday, Oct 28, 2015 at 12:13
Typical Toyota response and l bet they said he put some dirty fuel in it .
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