79 Series Dual Cab

Submitted: Wednesday, Dec 02, 2015 at 17:59
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Ok I have done the rounds on parabolic springs for a GVM upgrade on a 79 series dual cab.
I am still at a loss if they are the go or not.
Everything about them makes sense though there seems little support for the product.
So should I go paras for a GVM upgrade or stick to the known brands?

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Reply By: Member - John - Wednesday, Dec 02, 2015 at 19:30

Wednesday, Dec 02, 2015 at 19:30
Steve, I think you will find that the GVM upgrade states what spring and shock you use, atleast that is what mine from Lovells stated. Good luck.
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Follow Up By: blue one - Wednesday, Dec 02, 2015 at 19:50

Wednesday, Dec 02, 2015 at 19:50
Thanks John

I was after opinions on parabolic springs for a GVM upgrade.

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Reply By: Member - John - Wednesday, Dec 02, 2015 at 20:13

Wednesday, Dec 02, 2015 at 20:13
Steve, you can't just pick a spring for a GVM upgrade, the GVM increase has to be certified and engineered, using stated components. Lovells and a few others are doing it now, but you have to use the certified components. As I said, good luck.
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Follow Up By: blue one - Wednesday, Dec 02, 2015 at 20:15

Wednesday, Dec 02, 2015 at 20:15
Thanks John

Well aware of what is required
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Follow Up By: blue one - Wednesday, Dec 02, 2015 at 21:08

Wednesday, Dec 02, 2015 at 21:08
Here you go John

The mob that sells parabolic springs.

West Coast Suspensions > News > Toyota 79 Series Cab Chassis V8 3900KG GVM Upgrade
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Toyota 79 Series Cab Chassis V8 3900KG GVM Upgrade

West Coast Suspension is now authorized to supply and fit a GVM suspension upgrade for the current 79 Series V8 Toyota Landcruiser Cab Chassis to 3900 kilograms GVM. This enables the operator to legally carry 600kg over the factory stipulated GVM.

This kit has been engineer tested and certified by DPI WA with approval number M148WA allowing the vehicle to attain a legal GVM of 3900kg.

This suspension upgrade has been approved in WA by the WA Department of Transport. Please be aware that some other GVM suspensions upgrades available on the market are licensed in other states and do not necessarily comply with WA state requirements. Each GVM suspension upgrade is issued with a blue modification compliance plate fitted next to the OEM compliance plate, stating vehicle particulars and approval number issued by Transport WA.

Suspension kit consists of:

4 Heavy duty shock absorbers

2 Coil springs

2 Leaf springs

4 U/bolts

1 Shackle bush kit

2 Swinging shackles

2 Fixed pins

1 Brake valve spacer block

1 Compliance Plate

All relevant application and approval forms for vehicle particulars will be available from West Coast Suspension staff at time of purchase.
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Reply By: AlbyNSW - Wednesday, Dec 02, 2015 at 20:39

Wednesday, Dec 02, 2015 at 20:39
Can you get a GVM upgrade with a parabolic spring? Who does them?
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Follow Up By: blue one - Wednesday, Dec 02, 2015 at 20:42

Wednesday, Dec 02, 2015 at 20:42
Yep

West Australia mob.

Google them
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Follow Up By: blue one - Thursday, Dec 03, 2015 at 08:10

Thursday, Dec 03, 2015 at 08:10
West Coast Suspensions > News > Toyota 79 Series Cab Chassis V8 3900KG GVM Upgrade
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Toyota 79 Series Cab Chassis V8 3900KG GVM Upgrade
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Reply By: Member - Blue M - Thursday, Dec 03, 2015 at 03:21

Thursday, Dec 03, 2015 at 03:21
Blue One,
I am a bit confused with the GVM upgrade weights being set at 3900 kgs.
I have read in the Toyota Manual that the axle loads is only 3780 kgs.
What mods do they do to get around these figures quoted from the manual.
(Page 168 of my manual)

The load on either the front or rear axle resulting from distribution of the gross vehicle weight on both axles must not exceed the following:-
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Semi long wheelbase*
Front: 1480 kg (3263 lb.) Rear: 2180 kg (4806 lb.)

Long wheelbase wheelbase*
Front: 1480 kg (3263 lb.) Rear: 2300 kg (5071 lb.)

I know they do it, just can't understand how.

Just asking :)
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Follow Up By: blue one - Thursday, Dec 03, 2015 at 08:09

Thursday, Dec 03, 2015 at 08:09
I am only going to have the compliance plate nominating 3780kgs as there are a number of problems if states 3900kgs. The suspension will never be loaded to 3900kgs only to 3780kgs.

3780kgs is heavy enough for me and I don't think I will ever carry that much as I like to travel as light as possible. Usually loaded around 3400kgs to 3500kgs.

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Reply By: Member - Markthemilko (WA) - Thursday, Dec 03, 2015 at 03:28

Thursday, Dec 03, 2015 at 03:28
Hi Steve,
I have a 2007 VDJ79 ute and with the aid of an engineer for certification I used parabolic springs on the rear. I already had a 3 leaf-set and had to add a 4th leaf. I went to a spring retailer and he sold me a set of coil spring for the front, as well as 4 shockers and he wrote on the invoice that these units were what they used for a GVM upgrade to 3.9T - to satisfy the engineer. 2 other places wouldn't do that.
I did all the fitting myself. I'm very happy with them. I fitted genuine Toyota bushes in the parabolics after the APM ones wore out after 15,000Ks. So no grease nipples. One of mine broke a bolt across the grease access hole!
Happy 4WDriving
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Follow Up By: blue one - Thursday, Dec 03, 2015 at 16:32

Thursday, Dec 03, 2015 at 16:32
Thanks for that
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Reply By: Yunderup Fox n Wifey - Friday, Dec 04, 2015 at 01:02

Friday, Dec 04, 2015 at 01:02
Hi all,
I know your question was on parabolic springs and I don't like it when others start rambling on about something other than what you asked so I will keep it short.
I have just had a GVM upgrade done on my 79 series 2010 ute, installed by Pedders. Gvm now 3780kgs as per others comments. ($3500).
I just want to let you know they installed aftermarket indicators in place of my perfectly good ones on either side of the front guards. When asked what the bloody hell they did that for, the answer came "for compliance". I researched quite a few different installers prior to getting it done and not one mentioned these indicator upgrade. I am not that happy with them and can't see any justification for it so just be aware of what you get.
apart from that I am more than happy with the rest of the install and hope I can now continue my safe travels.
sorry I can't comment on your shocked question.
good luck with whatever you decide to go with.
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Follow Up By: Member - Blue M - Friday, Dec 04, 2015 at 02:16

Friday, Dec 04, 2015 at 02:16
Yunderup,
Funny you mention that about the indicators on the side of the mud guard.
When I got mine done through TJM, and they did the same thing.
I looked at it for a week, knew something was different, until I woke up they had put bigger indicators there.

I rather like them.

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Follow Up By: rumpig - Friday, Dec 04, 2015 at 06:55

Friday, Dec 04, 2015 at 06:55
Yes the indicators need to be changed for compliance, mine were done when it was upgraded also. New ones don't look as nice as the originals IMHO being they are bigger, but they aren't that bad looking that I take any notice of them myself....maybe it's the boxxy look of the 79 series that they sort of suit ok.
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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Friday, Dec 04, 2015 at 09:56

Friday, Dec 04, 2015 at 09:56
I was told ARB change the side indicators when doing a GVM upgrade.

The dealer fitted Ironman 3900kg upgrade to my new Landcruiser and it came with different, bigger indicators. No big deal, and as they are now LED, they appear to be a lot brighter and therefore easier to see......we hope. :-)

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Follow Up By: The Landy - Friday, Dec 04, 2015 at 10:28

Friday, Dec 04, 2015 at 10:28
Yes, a requirement to have larger lights fitted.

Cheers Baz
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Follow Up By: Member - Geoff M (VIC) - Friday, Dec 04, 2015 at 12:47

Friday, Dec 04, 2015 at 12:47
When I had my GVM upgrade done, the installer showed me the letter regarding the replacement side lights - its a ADR requirement for any vehicle with a GVM >3500kgs.

It was a pain to get them fitted but I reckon they look fine.
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Reply By: Yunderup Fox n Wifey - Saturday, Dec 05, 2015 at 00:53

Saturday, Dec 05, 2015 at 00:53
Hey Bob,
you said they fitted LED indicators to yours on the gvm upgrade. I would have been happy with that rather than the old globe type used on mine. Wifey said they were only a step away from being kero lamps and suggested I go for the old style arm that used to be on the trucks. Hahaha.
I would appreciate it if you could get some details of your led indicators. Make, model,size etc.
I would be happier if I could change them over.
hope to here back from you.
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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Saturday, Dec 05, 2015 at 15:28

Saturday, Dec 05, 2015 at 15:28
Won't be home until sometime this Monday, Foxy. Will take a couple of photos and add them to this follow-up.

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Follow Up By: Yunderup Fox n Wifey - Saturday, Dec 05, 2015 at 21:05

Saturday, Dec 05, 2015 at 21:05
Thank Bob,

I keep an eye out for your reply.
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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Monday, Dec 07, 2015 at 12:40

Monday, Dec 07, 2015 at 12:40
Foxy,

Have just taken a couple of photos of these upgraded side indicators, and the brand appears to be "Jokon". Suppose you could google that, or perhaps contact an Ironman, or any other GVM upgrade supplier, and ask what they use.





Only 2 rearward facing LED's, but they light up the side of the cab very well.

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Follow Up By: The Landy - Monday, Dec 07, 2015 at 13:26

Monday, Dec 07, 2015 at 13:26
These are the CAT 6 Indicator lights I fitted to the front guard, hardly noticeable vs. the old ones...

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Follow Up By: equinox - Monday, Dec 07, 2015 at 21:30

Monday, Dec 07, 2015 at 21:30
gee Baz those extra 2 tinted windows are making me salivate lol

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Follow Up By: Yunderup Fox n Wifey - Monday, Dec 07, 2015 at 21:35

Monday, Dec 07, 2015 at 21:35
Thanks Bob and Baz for the info and the photos. I will have a look on the net and see if I can find them. Then replace the old /new ones that Pedders installed.
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