Satellite Phone Charges

I have just received my annual invoice for my Inmarsat Telephone and was surprised by the $600 per annum charge associated with it. I thought they were trying to charge me for a new phone. After a couple of phone calls I received their new pricing schedule which showed that it was indeed the annual charge. My previous years charge was $63.10

What do other sat phone users pay to have it available and ready for your next trip?

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BernieC LC200, Van etc.
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Reply By: Michael H9 - Monday, Dec 07, 2015 at 23:35

Monday, Dec 07, 2015 at 23:35
Inmarsat's charges went through the roof a few years ago. I get a prepaid $120 voucher that has a 6 months expiry and only bother recharging when another trip is in the wind. I've gone up to 2 years with no credit and no pay.
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Follow Up By: Les - PK Ranger - Monday, Dec 07, 2015 at 23:42

Monday, Dec 07, 2015 at 23:42
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. . . and can't it still be used to dial 112 without credit ??
If so, might be useful for short remote trips.
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Follow Up By: Sigmund - Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 07:30

Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 07:30
Yeah Les. 000 can be rung without call credits.

The Feds made direct access mandatory for all satphone comm providers last year.
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Follow Up By: Les - PK Ranger - Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 07:40

Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 07:40
Well that's pretty cool then, wasn't sure if 000 would work with a sat phone, good to know.
Just that might suit a lot of people that are happy to go remote without contacting the outside Wirld, have total confidence in their rigs, and just want the backup of the ability to relay a full emerg situation.
Would possibly suit 1-2 weeks and longer tours a recharge could be done.
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Follow Up By: Sigmund - Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 07:53

Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 07:53
Yeah. And some Inmarsat airtime sellers now offer a voucher for a given number of units that you can activate from the phone if you need it. There's still an overall expiry date but this provides more flexibility.
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Reply By: MEMBER - Darian, SA - Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 01:18

Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 01:18
I paid $500 a couple of years back for a new Qualcom GSP 1600 phone....since then, Pivotel bill me $20 / month to continue the account as ready and reserve it's mobile phone number. For us it is emergencies only....calls would be $1 a minute last time I looked. The Qualcomm is klunky but voice quality is great.
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony H (touring oz) - Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 05:25

Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 05:25
My Pivotel account charge is $15pm & approx $1 per min on the Thuraya satellite
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Follow Up By: Member - TonyV - Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 09:00

Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 09:00
With you there Tony,

Pivotel $15 per month and 99 c per minute, best part is the 50c SMS which is what I use, then my wife/family just call me on the mobile number for free (on their plans) or for a greatly reduced cost.

If I am working, I have a set time when I am called as a check in.
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Reply By: Zippo - Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 01:50

Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 01:50
Crikey! Is that rental or just a standing access charge for a unit you own?

We purchased a used Iridium set for $400 and use a post-paid Telstra SIM which costs $10/month to keep available.
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Follow Up By: The Explorer - Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 11:20

Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 11:20
Hi

The post-paid casual Telstra Plan is now $20/month :(

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Follow Up By: Zippo - Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 12:31

Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 12:31
(Here we go again!)

It's NOT actually - if you are on the right plan. Seems some aren't. Those November 22 increases did NOT impact ALL plans/accounts, the "Mobile Accelerate Casual Plan $10" seemingly wasn't.

If I had a contact for you I would happily email a copy of my latest account (due for payment 18/12), still $10/mo and still titled as above.
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Follow Up By: The Explorer - Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 12:49

Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 12:49
Sorry - was just specifically talking about the "The post-paid casual Telstra Plan" (proper name Telstra Mobile Casual Plan)

Cant comment on other plans.

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Follow Up By: dean ( SA ) - Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 13:52

Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 13:52
I have the same and mine went up from 10 - 20...but on the upside all calls and texts are included.
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Follow Up By: The Explorer - Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 14:01

Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 14:01
...I dont think calls and texts are included if the sim card is used in a sat phone as calls etc get diverted to the satellite system and then a charge is applied (for the diversion at least). If its just in a normal mobile then yes.

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Follow Up By: Zippo - Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 14:58

Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 14:58
Dean, as Greg said those inclusions will not apply if the post-paid SIM is used in a satphone. If you use that SIM in your cellphone then the inclusions apply. When you move it to the satphone, all the satphone calls will be charged extra at satphone rates.

In our case we have a dedicated SIM for our the satphone, so we pay $10/mo plus calls at ~$4/min.
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Reply By: Sigmund - Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 07:29

Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 07:29
Prepaid involves no annual fee.

Best price I've seen recently was $150 for 100 units on a 180 day expiry.
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Reply By: Mick O - Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 07:30

Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 07:30
Bernie, I'm with the iridium network through Pivotel. I pay $45 a month for my plan which gives me $15 worth of calls. The bonus for me is that people can call my satphone at normal mobile rates. This means that if you are on a bundle at home where they combine internet and give you unlimited calls to National and Mobiles within Australia...you can call it for free. Outward rates are also very reasonable (less than 90c per minute).

For three months of the year I can register it as inactive and pay only $20 per month for that quarter.. Overall a bit under $500 a year (Plus calls in excessive of the $15 included calls).

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Follow Up By: The Landy - Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 07:46

Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 07:46
Changed mine to the same when I got home from the trip...

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Follow Up By: Steve in Kakadu - Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 11:13

Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 11:13
I have the same as Mick on one phone and $15 per month on the Iphone sat sleeve with no bonus calls, so for both it is $720 a year or $65 per month + calls I own both devices.

Cheap insurance if you ask me.
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Reply By: Member - Alan H (QLD) - Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 07:56

Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 07:56
I also have a Qualcom phone through Pivotel which costs $20 per month $1 per minute for outgoing calls. Free incoming calls and is a mobile call to those calling. The phone has a mobile phone number. It is very clear to use.

It is a reconditioned phone which cost $350?

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Reply By: vk1dx - Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 08:03

Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 08:03
Seems that Isatphone charges have changed for the cheaper also. Something about using local satellites. No longer costs $20 minute to call the phone from a telstra line. Just normal mobile phone charges. And we also have "000" direct access.

The monthly charge is a little high at $50 so we are sticking with the prepaid.

PS "000" may work if you are in an medical etc emergency but I wouldn't try it for a few litre of oil or water to get you home. So we still need the credit in the phone. Cheap insurance though.

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Follow Up By: Member - Duncan W (WA) - Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 10:46

Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 10:46
Phil are you now saying that Isat in coming calls are at normal mobile rates and not the $19/min, when did that come in? Is this the case for pre-paids as well or just on their monthly plan?
I've not had to use mine for 12mths so not up to speed with any new changes.

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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 11:29

Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 11:29
Here is a bit from an email that I received. Doesn't suit us as we never make outgoing calls. But worth a read any way. There is an attachment also.

Finally ... the local Inmarsat option is available! I have attached the call plans that are now available.

The monthly fee is quite reasonable, given the following advantages:


Quote from email:
This also means that people calling you are charged just mobile phone rates, so that is much cheaper than the current prepaid option. This is the main advantage to moving to a local connection rather than a prepaid, as it will open up the Isatphone to use in a totally different way. Before, you incurred all the call charges yourself as it is always cheaper for an Inmarsat prepaid to call out than for anyone to call into it. Now, with this option, your outgoing calls will be greatly reduced and you do not pay for incoming calls (unless you are overseas), and the caller only pays normal mobile rates (again, unless you are overseas).

Attachment:
On the way. I have to make it a photo, upload it and then post. Back soon

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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 11:37

Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 11:37
Pivotel charges as attached to an email that I received yesterday.

Phil

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Follow Up By: Sigmund - Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 14:04

Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 14:04
Just as a btw, on Inmarsat Prepaid one option to avoid the ridiculous Telstra interconnect charge when calling in is to use Skype. $7.30 per minute.
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 14:35

Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 14:35
Sigmund

If you read what was in the email to me (two posts back) you will see the following: "This also means that people calling you are charged just mobile phone rates". And about time. No more $20 a minute calls to us.

Phil
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Follow Up By: Sigmund - Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 14:49

Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 14:49
Yeah. The post referred to call plans & monthly fee, so I took it not to apply to prepaid.
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Reply By: Berniec - Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 10:53

Tuesday, Dec 08, 2015 at 10:53
Thanks to all for your collective thoughts and experiences. I will do some research and see what is the best way forward.
We only use it as a back stop. We have Spot as well and have never had to use either in an emergency. We did use the Satphone for a vehicle problem on the Canning a couple of years ago. It probably saved us a couple of days of down time in Newman.

Stay safe
BernieC. LC200 Van etc.
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