Cecil Madigan

Submitted: Wednesday, Dec 09, 2015 at 21:48
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Does anyone now where I can get a copy of "Crossing the dead heart" published in 1946?
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Reply By: Member - Scrubby (VIC) - Wednesday, Dec 09, 2015 at 22:16

Wednesday, Dec 09, 2015 at 22:16
Try this mob, they have one for about $75.00 I think.

Email: simperbookbinders@gmail.com

Web: www.simperbookbinders.com.au

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Follow Up By: rare - Wednesday, Dec 09, 2015 at 22:21

Wednesday, Dec 09, 2015 at 22:21
Thanks Scrubby,

I rang them today. They have sold the only copy they had. They haven't up dated online yet so still appears as available. This book is hard to find.
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Reply By: The Landy - Thursday, Dec 10, 2015 at 05:53

Thursday, Dec 10, 2015 at 05:53
Westprint?

I got mine from there, albeit a number of years ago...

Cheers, Baz - The Landy
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Reply By: Sigmund - Thursday, Dec 10, 2015 at 10:16

Thursday, Dec 10, 2015 at 10:16
Very hard to find.

Borrowing options: http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/8476999?q&borrow=true
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Reply By: Member - sparra - Thursday, Dec 10, 2015 at 10:43

Thursday, Dec 10, 2015 at 10:43
I have a copy,reprinted in 2001. Published by J.B.Brooks Pty.Ltd,P.O.Box 118,Marleston,S.A.5033
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Reply By: Ron N - Thursday, Dec 10, 2015 at 11:03

Thursday, Dec 10, 2015 at 11:03
It will be almost impossible to find a copy because the book was obviously a low-volume print run in each edition, and the total number of copies in existence is probably only a few thousand.

There is one slight advantage in your search - there have been 5 editions (6, if you want a Braille copy!);

1st Edition - Printer; Corkwood Press, Adelaide - 1946. Publisher; Georgian House.
2nd Edition - Printer: Corkwood Press, Adelaide - 1974. Publisher: Rigby.
3rd Edition - Printer: Corkwood Press, Adelaide - 1997. Publisher: Corkwood Press.
4th Edition (revised) - Printer: Corkwood Press, Adelaide - 1998. Publisher: Corkwood Press
5th Edition - Printer: JB Books, Marleston S.A. - 2001. Publisher: JB Books.

Many libraries have a copy, but it also appears the libraries know the book to be rare, and they are not lent out.
All you can do, is set up a watch and an alert for a copy becoming available. All the major bookselling sites can do this for you.
Alternatively, you can seek out a local bookseller who specialises in rare and out-of-print books, and get them to put out feelers for a copy.
I don't know your location, but in W.A., Serendipity Books is good, and they quickly found a copy of a rare book that I wanted.

Sites to search;

Fishpond (you get individual people selling books on here, not just pro booksellers)
Abebooks
Biblio
Alibris
Book Depository
Better World Books
GoodReads
Amazon (you'd be surprised what Amazon sell - they are intent on beating eBay)
eBay

JB books appear to be worth contacting, they may be prepared to do another print run, as they did the last one.

Cheers, Ron.
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Follow Up By: rare - Thursday, Dec 10, 2015 at 14:16

Thursday, Dec 10, 2015 at 14:16
Thanks Ron,

Yes I have feelers out and also contacted Serendipity. No Joy yet :-(.
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Follow Up By: Sigmund - Friday, Dec 11, 2015 at 09:20

Friday, Dec 11, 2015 at 09:20
Also try bookfinder.com
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Reply By: vk1dx - Thursday, Dec 10, 2015 at 14:33

Thursday, Dec 10, 2015 at 14:33
I know that this is OT but if you are doing the Madigan Line get this map;

Madigan Travellers Guide at Exploroz shop

It has details about a detour around the Arcacia plot at the western end.

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Reply By: Member - Scrubby (VIC) - Thursday, Dec 10, 2015 at 20:05

Thursday, Dec 10, 2015 at 20:05
Have you Tried this one ?

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Used - Good. Great condition. Previous owners name and notes written on back of front cover. No further markings. DJ in good condition. "This is the true story of one of the epic adventures of desert exploration. In 1939 Dr Cecil Madigan led his party of nine men and nineteen camels into the trackless and waterless Simpson Desert on an exciting mission never before attempted."; includes dustjacket (DEAD HEART MADIGAN SIMPSON DESERT)
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Follow Up By: rare - Thursday, Dec 10, 2015 at 21:18

Thursday, Dec 10, 2015 at 21:18
yes I have tried them but search comes up no matching results :-(
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Follow Up By: Ron N - Thursday, Dec 10, 2015 at 23:17

Thursday, Dec 10, 2015 at 23:17
I don't know what you are doing there, but the search on BookFinder produces 3 new copies and one used.
All new copies and the used copy are the 1998 edition.

1st copy is on Amazon Germany (Amazon.de) and this copy is AU$53.32 plus shipping of AU$21.85.
2nd copy is on Amazon France (Amazon.fr) and this copy is AU$54.26 including shipping.
3rd copy is on Amazon Italy (Amazon.it) and this copy is AU$59.80 including shipping.

The used copy is on Amazon Germany and the seller wants $158.44 for it. The seller is generous enough to throw in shipping for that bargain price!
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Follow Up By: Ron N - Thursday, Dec 10, 2015 at 23:30

Thursday, Dec 10, 2015 at 23:30
Hmmm ... those Amazon sellers saying they have new copies, are playing ducks and drakes.
I click on the link to buy the book, and all three put up a message - "the book is currently out of stock - but order it, and we'll let you know when we get it in. You won't be charged until we get it in."

You could be waiting a long time with that approach. That is pretty sleazy of them.

The German bloke with the used copy, DOES have it in stock. It's described as good condition, it's 86 Euros plus 15.50 EU shipping - which according to my calculations, makes 101.50 EU - which is supposed to be AU$152 at todays exchange rate.
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Follow Up By: Sigmund - Friday, Dec 11, 2015 at 09:24

Friday, Dec 11, 2015 at 09:24
Ron N, a number of publishers do 'print on demand'. If the demand builds up they do a print run from a facsimile.
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Follow Up By: Ron N - Friday, Dec 11, 2015 at 09:35

Friday, Dec 11, 2015 at 09:35
Sigmund - Yes, I knew that, that's why I previously suggested that the OP contact JB Books, as they appear to specialise in small print runs, local history, and Australiana.
In addition, they were the printers/publishers of the last edition, so they must be interested in the book.
I don't know how the printers or publishers gauge "demand" for a book.
I'm presuming it comes from requests from booksellers, but it must be difficult to get a proper handle on the potential demand.
If a bookseller is asking 86 Euros for a good used copy, someone must have figured out that the book is in very short supply.

Cheers, Ron.
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Follow Up By: Sigmund - Friday, Dec 11, 2015 at 13:08

Friday, Dec 11, 2015 at 13:08
They gauge demand by the number of folk who signal their interest on a website!

2nd hand book values vary quite a lot among like items. It's a global market now so patience is rewarded. Just sign up for a notification request at abebooks
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Reply By: Sigmund - Friday, Dec 18, 2015 at 07:37

Friday, Dec 18, 2015 at 07:37
Apparently Westprint plan a reprint of both Madigan's books next year.
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Reply By: Sigmund - Friday, Dec 18, 2015 at 09:12

Friday, Dec 18, 2015 at 09:12
Madigan's notebooks from his Antarctic expedition have also been published - despite him noting that they shouldn't and you can see why. They're rather critical of 'the old man' and much of that seems to have arisen out of the normal frustrations of living cheek by jowl, or out of normal differences in reading the conditions and deciding what to do.

https://www.themonthly.com.au/issue/2013/march/1361848248/david-day/cecil-loathing

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Reply By: Idler Chris - Friday, Dec 18, 2015 at 10:24

Friday, Dec 18, 2015 at 10:24
The great people at Westprint are your answer. Goto todays Friday Five.
http://westprint.com.au/newsletter-2015-12-18
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